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KatChatter

(194 posts)
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 07:05 PM Jun 2012

AZ Decision what will really happen

The Court said yes the police can harasses and intimidate people who may be undocumented but they can still work and what not.

This will allow business to profit off of cheap labor and the police to keep all the undocumented in one part of town.

This will be what happens….

Undocumented worker busts butt in the fields or some other manual crap job all day. Manages to scrape together a little coin to buy their kid/spouse/whatever something nice, so they head to the nice mall in the good part of town but now the police are at the mall to make sure you don’t even come into the mall and that your kind needs to stay in the getto. The police only need to do this for a few months and people will figure out if they stay in the getto, go to crap job and keep you moth shut you will have no problem but step out of line your screwed.

In effect the SCOTUS created a permanent slave class that can be kept in place by the police through fear and intimidation.

For all intensive purposes AZ won, they get cheap labor and get to legally be racists.

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AZ Decision what will really happen (Original Post) KatChatter Jun 2012 OP
With all due respect, KatChatter, I must strongly disagree...... Swede Atlanta Jun 2012 #1
you have more faith in people then I do KatChatter Jun 2012 #3
What has changed is that the feds withdrew deputizations from local police and sheriffs. Ptah Jun 2012 #2
but they can still openly harasses and intimidate KatChatter Jun 2012 #4
 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
1. With all due respect, KatChatter, I must strongly disagree......
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 07:11 PM
Jun 2012

The majority of AZ law enforcement agencies opposed this legislation. They do not feel it is within their rightful jurisdiction to engage in immigration enforcement. They do not believe they have enough training and knowledge to be effective. Sheriff Asshole is obviously a notable exception. They didn't invite this job.

Further, the Supreme Court didn't say what actions by law enforcement with respect to "show me your papers" would be considered constitutional. Law enforcement (Sheriff Asshole excepted) is going to be very cautious I believe. If they wrongly implement this law they could find themselves subject to civil and even criminal prosecution. The Court cut law enforcement a very short leash on which to hang themselves.

I'm not suggesting there will not be pockets of 'turn the blind eye' when it benefits a business, etc. but by and large I am not so sure the provision that was conditionally upheld will actually be widely enforced. Time will tell. I could be wrong.

 

KatChatter

(194 posts)
3. you have more faith in people then I do
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 07:16 PM
Jun 2012

if people were not such racist a-holes we would not even need the anti discrimination laws in the first place.

Similar laws will pass like wild fire in the red states now too.

Let's hope I am wrong.

Ptah

(33,032 posts)
2. What has changed is that the feds withdrew deputizations from local police and sheriffs.
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 07:15 PM
Jun 2012

Locals cannot now detain someone for immigration status alone.

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