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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI now have a good reply to "But we didn't complain when YOUR guy won"
At least, it works with my dumbass relatives. Rather than try to list all the ways Obama was obstructed at every turn, I say, "Well of COURSE you didn't, why would you protest such a great choice by the American people? That would be like complaining when you win the lottery."
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)I just say, "Then what was the Tea Party movement?" Protesting constantly. Disrupting townhalls, screaming "do you job." What was that? You were even given costumes and flags from the Republican organizers of that astro-turf group, thanks to Phil Gramm and Dick Armey, et. al. What was all of that?
DK504
(3,847 posts)That was funded by the Kock brothers and was no where near a grass roots movement. The astroturf bowel movement from the mouth breathers lemmings don't understand how this is organically occuring.
padfun
(1,786 posts)they keep claiming it was. So lets use that against them.
MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)those people chose to carry all of those hateful, racist and / or dumb signs in defense of their "freedom".
Whenever I see one of these people online who claims they didn't protest, I post pictures of the tea party
protests. Bullshit. This is one of my favorites:
Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)My implication was that Grassroots groups don't show up with costumes, professional signs and expensive flags on day one. It was an astro-turf group. Look up Phil Gramm's and Dick Armey's involvement with this planned political attack on President Obama.
Gramm and Armey are two pus bags that have blighted our country for decades but nowadays stay behind the curtain. You probably know this already.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)After all, since that's that how Republicans have to do it, that means means that's how everyone does it, right?
RIGHT???
Phentex
(16,334 posts)Mind if I use it?
King_Klonopin
(1,306 posts)That's right -- you guys did absolutely NOTHING for eight long years !!
Demonaut
(8,919 posts)I don't recall any quiet acceptance of President Obama. I don't know what people's definition of "complain" is, but republicans were totally obnoxious for eight years.
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)I mean ...
SERIOUSLY?
Part of why I ended up supporting him over Hillary was that he was such a calm and cool guy, and had no real history, I figured that they would be assholes, but maybe just a little less so with him than her.
And, as usual, very quickly I had to remind myself that the only way I am naive is when I give these fuckers even the first bit of credit.
PatSeg
(47,512 posts)than I ever thought possible. I understand the small percentage of hardcore ignorant racists, but we saw it coming from more mainstream people, who apparently formed opinions after watching Fox News, opinions that were totally absurd with no relationship to reality.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Anyone can Google the pics,burning effigies of Obama,signs with a hangmans noose telling Obama to "hang in there". Yeah...they were just gentle wittle snowflakes and Trump never tweeted to March on DC after the second Obama victory.
Nah.......
Paladin
(28,265 posts)When I think of all the hateful, racist stuff I saw on Facebook, when I think of the people I wrote off, who used to be friends of mine. The complaints against Obama and his family were ugly and continuous for his eight years in office; they are ongoing to this day. Anybody who claims the contrary is stupid enough to be a trump supporter.
brer cat
(24,578 posts)plimsoll
(1,670 posts)Followed by an apology for not realizing they were serious.
Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)response, sometimes unsuccessfully. I will never get over how they came at the Obama family and our President.
gordianot
(15,242 posts)The very few Trump voters I deal with are because I have to for business reasons. As soon as there is no longer a business reason they are gone quicker than Trump voting relatives.
DownriverDem
(6,229 posts)Well said. There were many reasons why folks voted for Trump. However I will never forgive those who voted 3rd party or not at all. They were warned by Bernie, Warren, Obama & HRC. Now our lives are truly screwed. Young folks stand to lose the most though. I really feel sorry for them.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Initech
(100,081 posts)Remember the Tea Party protests? Remember the obstruction? Remember the year long denial of the SCOTUS pick? Remember all the investigations into Benghazi, Hillary's emails, and the wasted government money spent attempting to repeal Obama care? Yeah there was plenty of complaining!
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)And the Dems had enough Senators to break a filibuster and the GOP leader vowed to obstruct everything on the day of the inauguration?
eta: And GOP Congressmen and Justices so respected the office that they heckled the SOTU?
Fritz67
(353 posts)"And you DID complain. Nonstop for eight f***ing years."
dawg
(10,624 posts)"Yes you did, asshole!"
AllaN01Bear
(18,268 posts)they shut down the government a half dosen times in the 8 years .they obstructed relentlessy. almost every every person on the other side bitched and complianed also some used a very nasty insult oh yes they complained bitterly, and lied about his not possible being a citizen but yours is a great rebutt show us ur tax returns mr trump.
phylny
(8,381 posts)calimary
(81,323 posts)Besides - THEIR new guy didn't do what I recall EVERY president who wins an election steps up and states one form or other of: "for those who didn't vote for me, I will work very hard to be their president, too". There has always, almost by unwritten tradition, been a verbal reach-out to the opposition. Not with this fucker.
This fucker couldn't whine enough about why he was somehow "cheated" out of the popular vote by all these millions of illegal votes being cast, and about which there is agreement on both sides of the aisle that there was NO SUCH THING. This fucker was a sore winner.
And I use the word "winner" advisedly, because to me, he DIDN'T win, and his so-called "presidency" is ILLEGITIMATE AS ALL HELL -
A) because he lost the popular vote - which indicates what kind of support was behind the actual winner. And
B) because we had a deliberate external manipulation by a hostile foreign power to intervene, undercut the voice of the people, and put a thumb on the scale to make sure trump "won."
Orsino
(37,428 posts)niyad
(113,370 posts)meadowlander
(4,399 posts)it's not a question of "your" guy or "our" guy. It's a question of holding any president accountable both to the facts and to the consequences of their decisions.
It should bother you when "your" guy lies and it should bother you when he makes terrible, rash decisions without considering all the implications first.
Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)They never shut up and whined and complained about Obama with all manner of nonsense.
So my thinking is "turnabout is fair play"
If they don't like it, too bad!
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,415 posts)They DID complain. And what's worse is that I still- to this day- have no real idea what the Tea Party actually was complaining about or stood for-other than General right-wing opposition to President Obama.
Like your response at any rate!
Cha
(297,323 posts)they whined about.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)svpadgham
(670 posts)They'd whine about the taxes on their hard earned winnings.
catbyte
(34,407 posts)tri-corner hats. That usually shuts them up, too.