Oklahoma and Wyoming Republicans agree women aren't people, disagree on just what they are

[sheshe2]

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Republicans in Wyoming and Oklahoma are starting to drop the pretense that they consider women to be human beings. In Wyoming, the state Senate is considering three bills that would restrict women’s abortion rights. Two of them are being considered by the agriculture committee.

[Senate President Eli Bebout] said the labor and health committee is busy with a number of bills and the ag group had more time to thoroughly vet them.


Allegations that women are being equated to cattle are ridiculous, the Riverton Republican said.

Dude, you’re the one who handed the job of limiting what medical care women can get to the agriculture committee. In Oklahoma, Rep. Justin Henry isn’t trying to be even that subtle as he pushes a bill requiring women to get male approval for abortion. He’s ranking women somewhere below cattle:

Ultimately, he said, his intent was to let men have a say. “I believe one of the breakdowns in our society is that we have excluded the man out of all of these types of decisions,” he said. “I understand that they feel like that is their body,” he said of women. “I feel like it is a separate — what I call them is, is you’re a ‘host.’ And you know when you enter into a relationship you’re going to be that host and so, you know, if you pre-know that then take all precautions and don’t get pregnant,” he explained. “So that’s where I’m at. I’m like, hey, your body is your body and be responsible with it. But after you’re irresponsible then don’t claim, well, I can just go and do this with another body, when you’re the host and you invited that in.”

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Dear Goddess! It is really time that we destroy the Republican Party once and for all! Trust me, I am dead serious here.

[Cracklin Charlie]

1. Ugh.

Just eff off, nasty old republicans!

[angrychair]

2. Holy shit!!

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That guy in OK called women a "host"!?!?!?

[sheshe2]

7. "host"

It feels like something out of an Alien movie.

[NickB79]

20. And here we see an adorable newborn picture of Rep. Justin Henry's birth from his host

Wait, did I say host? I meant mother. Yeah, mother.....

[Ilsa]

26. Send that one to him! LOL! nt

[grantcart]

40. shouldn't that be hostess lololol

[CrispyQ]

41. I LOL'd.

[sheshe2]

44. They are a little gender confused. ;)

[OldHippieChick]

13. Similar to the more popular "vessel"

n/t

[GoCubsGo]

15. If that's the case, by his definition, that makes the fetus a parasite.

Goddamn, these so-called people make me sick.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

3. This may be extreme

Legislating Women's reproductive lives should be outlawed completely because they are- at the core- basically expecting women to be incubators (aka slaves) for potential children that are growing in their bodies whether they want to or not.

[CrispyQ]

12. The Thirteenth Amendment and Abortion

I don't understand why the pro-choice movement doesn't use this argument more.

Forced Labor, Revisited: The Thirteenth Amendment and Abortion
Andrew Koppelman

http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1031&context=facultyworkingpapers

snip...

I. The basic argument

The Thirteenth Amendment reads as follows:
1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
jurisdiction.
2. Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by
appropriate legislation.

My claim is that the amendment is violated by laws that prohibit abortion. When
women are compelled to carry and bear children, they are subjected to "involuntary
servitude" in violation of the amendment. Abortion prohibitions violate the
Amendment's guarantee of personal liberty, because forced pregnancy and childbirth, by
compelling the woman to serve the fetus, creates "that control by which the personal
service of one man [sic] is disposed of or coerced for another's benefit which is the
essence of involuntary servitude."6

[Proud Liberal Dem]

22. I agree. It would be a powerful argument IMHO

Perhaps publicly bringing up comparisons to slavery are a bit too "touchy", politically speaking? Some of the more extreme elements of the anti-choice movement frequently use Holocaust and Eugenics comparisons. Forcing women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term, however, clearly robs women of their freedom, autonomy, and agency.

[CrispyQ]

43. One of my arguments against those who call themselves 'right to life'

is that when you place life in a hierarchy, like how men are valued over women, how white men are valued over men of color, then the argument has changed from right-to-life, to right-to-some-life. Regarding slavery, black men got the vote before women & a black man was president before a woman, that's how far down the ladder we are. If these troglodyte supremacists have their way, a clump of cells will have more rights than living breathing women. They truly do view us as property. I've never been so discouraged for the future of women in this country.

[moriah]

23. But, see, the woman who was "irresponsible" committed a crime in their eyes.

She OMG had the audacity to ovulate!

[sheshe2]

24. "...the essence of involuntary servitude"

[angrychair]

4. On another note

What truly sad is that WY was the first state in which woman got the right to vote. It even refused to join the union unless women continued to retain the right to vote...50 years before the rest of the country.

Now it has devolved into this pile of shit.

[mountain grammy]

32. I know, right?

devolved says it all.

[sheshe2]

34. They were a leader once...

How far they have fallen.

[logosoco]

5. that is really sick.

And while I agree the entire planet would be much better off with the down fall of the repub party, what these women really need is education. I always felt like the repubs are well aware that any health care limits for women is totally against the Constitution, but they run with it because they know they can get votes from these types of people.

[Tinker Trebucet]

6. Wyoming was admitted to the Union as the "Equality State!"

WTF happened?

[etherealtruth]

8. ... and yet Wyoming has disporpoprtionate weight in congress and the electoral college

Lucky us

[Phoenix61]

9. A host!?!?! The agriculture committee?

What do say to that? I mean really? What do you say? It is so wrong on so many, many levels. My forehead is going to be completely flat by the time this shit is over.

[barbtries]

10. i fear in my lifetime

they will never go away.

naive as i am i thought they'd fade the way of the whigs and tories after gw. no need to tell me how wrong i was.

these stories by the way made my jaw drop. unreal.

and does that OK motherfucker understand that sometimes in spite of all precautions a woman gets pregnant?1

[Ilsa]

11. I don't fucking "feel" like it's my body.

I fucking OWN IT.

Women across America need to hear about the Ag committee looking at Women's healthcare.

[ProfessorGAC]

16. I Knew That Would Be The Hot Button Line

Thanks Ilsa for confirming my thought. What a stupid thing to say! That would have been a stupid thing to hear when i was in college in the early and mid 70's. It's even stupider now, 40+ years later.

Not only stupid, but it doesn't even make sense.

Edited for clarity: I meant that idiot in Oklahoma or Wyoming or wherever. Not you!

[Ilsa]

25. Oh, I know where you were going with

Your comment.

I can't get pregnant any more, but I wonder how those lawmakers would feel about being told that their bodies are forced hosts for say, blood donations? Or plasma donations which take longer? Or being test subjects for drug companies?

They try to make distinctions between planned vs unplanned pregnancies, as if it can always be controlled.

[brooklynite]

14. Well, most women have their ears pierced; it should be easy to attach identity tags...

[sheshe2]

36. Please do not give them any ideas!

[Vinca]

17. Imagine the GOP squealing if women agreed to go along if men agreed to take the baby at birth.

[pansypoo53219]

18. of course, is there any MONEY TO SUPPORT SAID OFFSPRING?

babies are not free.

[sheshe2]

19. Exactly.

What really ticks me off is they don't give a dayum about mother or child once it is born. Just look at the GOP trying to shut down PP and ACA. Have the baby honey and forgo prenatal care, it doesn't make any sense.

[AgadorSparticus]

21. If this is what they are becoming, they need to be destroyed & replced w/sanity.

Uuuugh, this gets me angry!!

[sheshe2]

27. I know Agador.

They don't even try to hide it anymore. The F**KING Agricultural Committee !!!!

[Squinch]

28. Note the complete lack of responsibility on the part of the men. But the thing is this: when a man

enters into a relationship if he doesn't want his partner to have an abortion when she is someone who is likely to get an abortion, then he needs to make sure she doesn't get pregnant. After he is irresponsible and she gets pregnant, he can't claim, "Well now I get a say in what happens to THE WOMAN'S BODY."

[caballojm]

29. I love The Onion!

This IS from The Onion right? Please tell me this is from The Onion ... sigh.

[kimbutgar]

30. The women of Wyoming and Oklahoma voted rethug

This is what they get.

[procon]

31. He probably said that with a straight face after cutting funding for

fact base sex ed and free/cheap birth control methods for any woman one who needs them. Not surprisingly, this Neanderthal dumps all the responsibility for getting pregnant on the woman, while giving the men who impregnate them a free pass... oh, and all the Viagra they need to keep on begetting.

They make chastity belts for men -- hey, I just looked it up! -- so girlfriends, lets get all the menfolk outfitted in a steel cage so we really can control our own bodies!

[sheshe2]

38. Love your chastity belt idea!

[heaven05]

33. going to be a mean

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vicious 4 years for all not white, male and followers of the KKKristian religion. And I am damn sure that the women who voted for these clowns hate themselves that much to allow cretin knuckledraggers to make decisions about their bodies. Sad indeed.

[sheshe2]

37. Mean vicious four years...

yes it will be. I have one hell of a mad on right now and it will not stop anytime soon. Do it loud and proud. INSIST. PERSIST. RESIST. EXIST. That will be my sign at the next march. My friend and I are already making plans.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. Of course Republicons like these are men who equate rape with "relations" & rapists with fathers.

They want to allow rapists to sue women to prevent them from aborting.

And you know when you enter into a relationship you’re going to be that host

Also, they continually blame the victim.

And try to restrict alimony arrangements.

And restrict women's access to contraception.

so, you know, if you pre-know that then take all precautions and don’t get pregnant

[SpankMe]

39. Neanderthals, plain and simple. n/t

[AllaN01Bear]

42. groan

when will it ever stop. groan

[Kimchijeon]

47. pretty much sums it up.

[colsohlibgal]

45. Disgusting

They can go to Hell, this so annoyed me. How dare they, good grief.

[Kimchijeon]

46. WTF, a "host"

How about this, if I am "hosting" a tumor or tapeworm or even a stray facial hair guess what, I am going to exercise my autonomous will whatever the fuck someone says.

I guaran-fuckin' tee that if a man was "host" we'd have free access to termination services and birth control as a national-funded right. As I recall more than one comedian saying something to the effect of "there would be a planned parenthood on every block, along with loyalty cards where after 5 you get one free" (Perhaps Bill Burr mentioned it recently if my memory serves?)

So nonsensical, because these dudes can just fuck right off into the sunset and not pay child support anyway. It's just to protect their pweshious widdle fee-fees.

As the "host" I can kick guests out whether I invited 'em or they showed up unannounced, cause why? It's my fuckin' house!

What laughable idiocy.

[sheshe2]

48. First. Welcome to DU, Kim.

Second. Yup. It is your body as mine is my own. Our bodies ourselves and no asshole will be taking that away from us.

[Rex]

49. The Handmaid's Tale.

Fuck GOPukers from one ear and out the other! What is it with Repulsivican males and their inadequacies with their performance as males? Why punish women for that?

[sheshe2]

50. You nailed it...

and so did she~



No fucking with women.