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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMoby Claims Donald Trump's Russian Sex Tape Is "100% Real"
after spending the weekend talking to friends who work in dc i can safely(well, 'accurately'...) post the following things:
1-the russian dossier on trump is real. 100% real. he's being blackmailed by the russian government, not just for being peed
on by russian hookers, but for much more nefarious things.
2-the trump administration is in collusion with the russian government, and has been since day one.
3-the trump administration needs a war, most likely with iran. at present they are putting u.s warships off the coast
of iran in the hope that iran will attack one of the ships and give the u.s a pretense for invasion.
4-there are right wing plans to get rid of trump. he's a drain on their fundraising and their approval ratings, and the gop and koch
brothers and other u.s right wing groups are planning to get rid of trump.
5-intelligence agencies around the world, and here in the u.s, are horrified by the incompetence of the trump administration, and are
working to present information that will lead to high level firings and, ultimately, impeachment.
i'm writing these things so that when/if these things happen there will be a public record beforehand.
these are truly baffling and horrifying times, as we have an incompetent president who is essentially owned by a foreign power.
-moby
https://www.facebook.com/mobymusic/posts/10155085110276108:0
B2G
(9,766 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,459 posts)mikeysnot
(4,757 posts)The double think.... it hurts.
Wrong wingers will never admit they are wrong.
IronLionZion
(45,462 posts)and claim that he's a real winner and we're all a bunch of triggered snowflakes
They don't think like we do
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)the other side?
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)Why would we believe this?
Would they get rid of him before he starts a war, that btw, the Israelis would love, and could be the start of WWIII, cause the Iranians will fight back and the Russians will join in?
Is the idea that we'd be stuck with Pence?
lpbk2713
(42,760 posts)Although he will always be glad to let us know the latest scoop on HRC.
Especially right before an election.
RedWedge
(618 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)Oh - and who are his friends in DC?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)JudyM
(29,251 posts)but doesn't make him an expert on foreign affairs.
Need evidence, not more speculation. This sounds too much like the Tom Arnold thing...
JudyM
(29,251 posts)Though it's possible he has "ins" re: people who know more than the rest of us, he didn't make that case too well.
butdiduvote
(284 posts)...why hasn't he been exposed and thrown out yet? I find it hard to believe that so many people would allow this threat to our national security to continue until some subjective opportune moment.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,204 posts)Sure, they'll impeach him eventually, but they want to repeal the ACA and cut Social Security and Medicare first. They want to give him enough rope to hang himself, and get him to sign some draconian bills before they impeach him.
Read what Robert Reich's unnamed Republican friend had to say last month on inauguration day.
https://m.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1445206565491935
mopinko
(70,135 posts)his fall will be so epic that they will have to dig up and re-animate cecille b demille to make the movie.
catbyte
(34,407 posts)manicraven
(901 posts)Social Security and Medicare. He could refuse to go along. Pence would probably gleefully agree to all of their wishes.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,204 posts)They may try to squeeze as much out of Trump first.
tblue37
(65,409 posts)they vote always. Repub honchos also seriously fear RW media like Infowars and Breitbart.
Until Trump is thoroughly discredited enough to dampen his supporters' devotion, the GOP establishment is afraid they would be primaries if they are blamed for bringing him down. They have to wait for some other actors (most likely the IC) to destroy him first.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)Oneironaut
(5,505 posts)The "talking to friends" thing is especially chain mail-ish. This is crap unless proven otherwise.
manicraven
(901 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)On the one hand, Russia is enabling the DT administration dirty work and is supposedly offering protection; and on the other hand, the administration and other RW groups are trying to get rid of him.
It's not that I don't believe it (I do), it's just that I feel I'm missing something. Someone set me straight.
IamFortunesFool
(348 posts)KT2000
(20,584 posts)since we have been getting these snippets since his entry into the campaign.
Bannon has already informed us that there will be a war - if he has anything to do with it.
Dump is always bending over backwards to support Putin - no matter what.
Koch brothers never did like Dump but they have their boy Pence where they want him. BTW - Koch brothers have greased the skids plenty with Congress. They will have to act when the Kochs say so. In the meantime they want to push through as much of their agenda as possible before the turmoil of impeachment takes over.
there is nothing bizarre in Moby's post - mainly what we have witnessed already.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Serve up the proof or STFU.
physioex
(6,890 posts)Doesn't really put us in a better situation.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,011 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)I'm pretty sure the GOP and the far right, are using Trump as a tool for their agenda. They know he's way over his head and intellectually incompetent. He hasn't been in office for even a month and leaks are coming out, slowly. Nothing will surprise me down the road. Trump's a total farce.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Moby is hardly a definitive intelligence source.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)for him to clear
global1
(25,253 posts)always tie these two together.
Perhaps that's why 45Pee is still around. If he goes he brings down the Repug Party.
We can't let the Repugs try to wiggle out of their collusion with 45Pee. They might think that when he's outlived his usefulness to the Party - that they can get rid of him and claim that they are doing a service to this country. That won't work. They are as guilty as 45Pee in this and are not fit to have any leadership positions in this government. Not Senate. Not House. Not Governorships. Not State Legislative jobs. Not even dog catcher.
When 45Pee goes down - we need to have him take the Repug Party with him.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)highlighting what the MSM has been ignoring the past few months. More celebs should offer up their Russian opinions each week until Dump is impeached.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)He's presenting them as "accurate" statements.
Unless he can show some evidence, the chances of Moby's rumors from unknown DC people making a difference, are close to nothing.
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)Put up or shut up!
Anonymous lives to post quasi-threatening videos on YouTube.
We The People are calling your bluff. If you cannot provide concrete evidence -- which would stand up against intense scrutiny -- you need to go away. And take your Guy Fawkes masks with you.
And Wikileaks: your reputation went straight into the toilet when you collaborated with the Russians -- and their puppet candidate Drumpf -- last year. You have ONE CHANCE to redeem yourselves as being impartial. If you cannot provide the documentation (video or written) of this election tampering, then please go fuck yourselves!
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Whatever, dude. Just like Stephanopoulos said to Miller, "where's your proof."
Just because we want it to be true, we don't act like them.
manicraven
(901 posts)We've been teased with similar stuff for a while (Tom Arnold, Anonymous, Montel Williams, etc.). I want proof!
Xolodno
(6,395 posts)They need a way to save face as anger on the left and right is and will be directed at them.
They'll "release" an impeachable offense that doesn't directly lead back to them.
My guess is, they are looking for the opportune moment.
cab67
(2,993 posts)Russia has strong interests in the area, and would likely to what they could to keep Trump from taking military action there. And however ignorant and foolish Trump may be, military leaders in the US know full-well that a war with Iran wouldn't be like the Iraq war; Iran has a decent, modern military that would eventually be defeated, but would cost many more American lives than the public would be willing to sacrifice.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)Israel is going to bomb Iran's nuclear reactor into the Stone Age-- The US will have their backs if it gets out of hand.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Iran won't attack our ships. It will be Israeli fighter jets disguised as Iranian ones.
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)If Trump is coerced by Russia (which its pretty damn obvious) hard to believe they would be agreeable to messing with Iran.
tenorly
(2,037 posts)You know, by way of aversion therapy.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Everyone's gotten or given a blowjob. Not everyone's been pee'd on or pissed on someone.
This is gold (pun alert)!
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Which, looks to me, someone took a dump on Trump.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)I have my (few) moments. 😅
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)
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BREMPRO
(2,331 posts)Credible source for foreign affairs? I'd like to believe but the source doesn't give me confidence this will pan
out....Waiting for proof rather than opinion...
johnp3907
(3,732 posts)And Moby lost me at that dreadful Mission Of Burma cover.
mgardener
(1,817 posts)His hair color will match his future clothes?
Orange?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Mainly because of pieces like this.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)If so, that stands to be the most horrific and awesome thing ever created.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)He was really nice. But I don't see any reason to think he knows what he's talking about here.