Josh Marshall TPM - thinks there is MUCH more to come!

[NRaleighLiberal]

The Wind is Sown

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-wind-is-sown

By JOSH MARSHALL Published FEBRUARY 13, 2017, 11:41 PM EDT

I had wanted to end my work evening on the post I published just after 8 PM. Let me conclude on this note. Tonight's revelations (by which I mean those which preceded Michael Flynn's resignation) make it even more clear that there is much more going on out of view than we realize.

As the Russia story submerged out of view in the first days of February, the Acting Attorney General had already warned the White House about Michael Flynn's deceptions and susceptibility to blackmail. She was fired for refusing to enforce the immigration executive order days later. Though the White House now denies it, it seems that the President and his top advisors took no action in response to these warnings.

We can now also see the outlines of another part of the story. It appears that repeated efforts were made to apprise President Trump or those around him of the situation with Michael Flynn. When those warnings were ignored, people in the national security and law enforcement apparatus went instead to the press to get the word out that way. Only now can we see some of the hidden actions which reveal the pattern and provide context to the leaks.

This is not some ill-considered discussion by Michael Flynn. The role of Russia in the 2016 election and the President's relationship to Russia has been the un-ignorable question hanging over President Trump for months. Flynn's resignation does not come close to resolving it. It is highly likely that the Flynn/Russia channel was authorized by the President himself. There's much more to come.

[dchill]

1. "It's the election, stupid!"

[GusBob]

2. Transcripts are not fake news

They have evidence

[sarcasmo]

3. The election was stolen and now the country suffers through one debacle after another.

[flamingdem]

8. It was stolen

Let's say it over and over because it's true.

[NRaleighLiberal]

15. It was indeed stolen. More blatantly and seriously than the two Bush thefts.

[flamingdem]

16. We have got to stop them this round

Dem leaders need to go crazy and not let Trump get away with having Flynn be the fall guy and business as usual

[C Moon]

31. That's probably where Putin got the idea.

[dixiegrrrrl]

21. A petition seeking to nullify the election is before SCOTUS NOW!

on exactly the russian grounds.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028644246

[manicraven]

27. Your statement perfectly sums it up! No wonder we're all getting a bit exhausted.

[uponit7771]

39. +1

[herding cats]

4. That gives me hope.

Extra credit for an amazing headline, too.

[benld74]

5. Quoting Animal House

It's not over until

We say it's over!!!

[simguy225]

51. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor????

[AwakeAtLast]

6. Hence, the reason for Obama's sanctions

There had to be something binding that could be illegal if broken.

Thank you, Obama!

[triron]

13. hmmm

[spanone]

7. K&R...

[oasis]

9. First domino. (eom)

[wiggs]

10. Some big picture DU posts have this going way deeper than

Flynn and even deeper than Trump. It's about Putin and long term world order planning.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028635961

[NRaleighLiberal]

11. yes indeedy.

[Maru Kitteh]

17. It's about THUG Putin weakening the US and Europe, using white supremacists

to fuel the divisions in the name of patriotism and nationalism for his own gain.

THAT's what it is.

[putitinD]

29. +1000

[blueseas]

42. +1001

[GusBob]

12. I has dumb question

So they discussed the sanctions,,,,,,my question is: did Trump change the sanctions?

Cuz if so.....that proves collusion?

[triron]

14. yep

[Maru Kitteh]

18. It doesn't matter if he had yet changed the sanctions in such a short time

It matters that he knew, it matters what he directed.

[Lucinda]

19. KNR

[wiggs]

20. Re-posting this enigmatic article because Flynn was part.

WAAAYY out there theory get's a little closer today

https://patribotics.wordpress.com/2017/01/17/dear-mr-putin-lets-play-chess-louise-mensch-trump-russia/

ALL the rumors and theories now have legs

[NRaleighLiberal]

22. very good - thanks!

[zentrum]

23. Of course Trump knew

.....and authorized it. Or more accurately, did what Bannon told him to do in relation to Flynn calling Russia and all the rest of it.

Flynn did not lie to Pence either. Pence went along with the cover-up until it was no longer tenable.

[GallopingGhost]

24. I am worried that this will end with Flynn.

That he is the scapegoat and everything will be covered up. There was just a pundit on CNN saying the so-called has already moved on and is looking forward to getting back to work for the American people, blah, blah, blah, lie, lie, lie.

God, please let the whole truth come out.

[JTFrog]

45. CNN ran a headline last night saying this does NOT end with Flynn.

Trump burned his bridges with most media and intelligence agencies.

[GallopingGhost]

47. I hope so.

I guess I'm still cynical because so-called ran the kind of campaign he did and still got elected. *cough*

I pray the entire house of treasonous cards is indeed about to fall.

[butdiduvote]

25. I keep telling myself...

...to stop getting worked up to the point of tears and anxiety attacks over all of the bullshit going on and just give it time to work itself all out. I've had a hard time listening to my own advice because there was always a nagging feeling at the back of my mind that nothing could ever really happen because the Rethugs have full power. I don't know how long this feeling will hold, but tonight, I actually feel pretty confident things WILL unravel, and justice WILL be served in time.

Lock him up. Lock all of them up.

[iluvtennis]

36. +1000 nt

[Sugarcoated]

26. I know President Obama imposed the sanctions

in retaliation for interfering with our election and hacking but I wouldn't be surprised if he knew these dopes would do just what they did. I think The President did what he could to try to save the country, save us. I hope this takes the pig down...

[Frogg]

30. I agree...

[Frogg]

28. Have a little faith in Obama...

I am positive he did not just walk out of the WH knowing what they obviously already knew. I think they set up Flynn with the sanctions bit knowing he/they would take the bait. Now the leaking is coming full force. Just take a look at those pics of Obama grinning ear to ear!

[JenniferJuniper]

33. I think you are absolutely right

Obama was playing chess with two year olds.

[Quayblue]

53. +100

[bear425]

55. THIS! n/t

[lagomorph777]

57. Yup. I think more sting operations are in the works right now. Shhhhh....

Watch for Putin to do something crazy in response to disinformation planted in Trump's ear.

[world wide wally]

32. I can just hear Pootie cussing out his incompetent American lackeys about now

(In Russian, of course).

[erronis]

50. Putie (or putain as we say in french) doesn't cuss

He gets even. Polonium 210, anyone? There are other ways even worse than blackmail.

However, as the Great Liar-In-Chief Trump said, the US ain't the most saintly - black sites, assassinations, poisonings, torture, you-name-it.

Would Vlad impale his failures? Almost an "Extreme Apprentice" show?

[still_one]

34. Have to wonder if Jill Stein is starting to have indigestion from that dinner she had with

Putin and Flynn

[simguy225]

52. After the election "recounts"

she can afford to buy plenty of antacid, thanks to the money she made off of them.

[Hamlette]

35. Josh is not alarmist nor have I heard/seen him make predictions like this.

There's much more to come.

I have not inside info or sources but my guess would be they would blame the whole thing on Flynn and everyone else skates.

Josh has much better sources and is one of the best informed bloggers out there.

Made me pay attention.

[WiffenPoof]

37. The Unraveling Started When...

... Russia did not retaliate as a result of Obama's sanctions. They were strangely quiet and did nothing. The fact that they did not retaliate was a red flag to the press... And they started digging.

The idea that Flynn did not inform Trump... Or that Trump didn't know does not pass the smell test.

[uponit7771]

38. " it seems that the President and his top advisors took no action in response to these warnings. "

[calimary]

40. I think so, too.

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I suspect they're naively assuming that with Flynn resigning, that's the end of it. And they couldn't be more wrong. All evening I've been watching the talking heads and former intel officers kicking this around on camera, and they all agree on several things - that this only provokes more questions - and some of them even more inconvenient and uncomfortable.

SEVERAL times tonight already I've heard it uttered in one way or other - trump HAD to know. How there's no way he couldn't have known. Because of who he is, how he operates, how big his ego is, how that ego makes him plunk himself right down in the middle of things and at the top of things (I guess, kinda like the sun with all the planets and asteroid belt and everything else revolves around it).

During the conversation Brian Williams had with Malcolm Nance and Naveed Jamali, a key question to ask Michael Flynn would have to be "why are you falling on your sword? And for whom?"

There's excruciating speculation as these folks try to connect the dots, and are starting to realize what the picture is that those connected dots reveal. There are questions about whether THIS is why Sally Yates got fired, because she went to the White House Counsel to alert that office "that Flynn was talking to the Russians and may be compromised."

There's just a boatload - no - make that a whole armada of boatloads of questions that this provokes and spawns.

They're starting to connect the dots. I'm utterly flabbergasted.

[NRaleighLiberal]

41. kick for the AM crew

[msanthrope]

44. It's the White House Counsel. Donald McGahn.

I keep waiting for someone to point out that when his client Tom Delay took a trip to Russia in 1997, it was get at least a million from the Russians. The Russians have been financing the RNC for 20 years.

McGahn, founder of K Street, the guy the Repukes put in charge of fucking up the FEC, Abramoff, the lease on the Old Post Office...somebody needs to sit down and connect the dots.

[annabanana]

49. this right here . . . n/t

[randome]

43. Somebody, please, get to the crux of the matter: WHERE THE HELL IS MEREDITH MCIVER???

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[NewJeffCT]

46. that's why all SCOTUS nominees

must be filibustered

[Native]

48. "potentially vulnerable to Russian blackmail"

wonder what he's done that makes him vulnerable?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-department-warned-white-house-that-flynn-could-be-vulnerable-to-russian-blackmail-officials-say/2017/02/13/fc5dab88-f228-11e6-8d72-263470bf0401_story.html?utm_term=.cb03713202b0

[eleny]

58. He was directed by Trump to work with the Russians to hack the election

Knowing the chain of command would be enough to make him vulnerable. He'll be dangerous unless and until he's disappeared.

[Stuart G]

54. k and r...nt

[bucolic_frolic]

56. Amazing that they fired the Acting AG fast, but dawdled on the Flynn-Russian connection

Was her firing punishment for not wanting to toe the line?