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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOn top of all the fun today...Orange Bunghole is still at 40% approval
Today's Gallup. Holding steady at shitty approval ratings.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)Flynn's resignation wasn't public knowledge until last night. Seriously, they have hit bottom and continue to dig.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)So it will be a few days.. Today's data is through February 13th.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)So it wasn't a factor at all.
The important thing isn't Flynn's resignation but the fact that the resignation will lead to coverage of the entire story, and people who don't know much about it yet will start to learn about it.
Sean Spicer is spinning like crazy trying to make this about Donald Trump being a strong man who doesn't tolerate people lying to him. Some people will actually fall for that but hopefully most won't. The GOP base will believe anything he says but independents are much less likely to accept it. I hope they see it for as bad as it is.
The main result might not be a significant further lowering of his poll numbers but rather a hardening of the low numbers he already has. In other words, it will become difficult for them to recover. Remember when George Bush commuted Scotter Libby's sentence? It didn't cause his numbers to dip too much but it solidified his lack of popularity with those who already didn't like him.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)According to Trump today, Flynn is a great man, and his departure was entirely the fault of the "fake media" (whatever that means). Of course no mention of the fact that Trump himself fired Flynn. Then he started complaining about leaks, again (funny -- he loved wikileaks during the election!).
The Spicer narrative about "eroding trust," a bunch of nonsense word salad that was (imho) clearly Priebus/Spicer composed spin on the Flynn debacle, was just destroyed by Trump himself -- who as usual had to wander off-message and bitch about the "evil fake media" (add bwahahahaha sound effect). Trump is such an insecure ass that he couldn't take any responsibility, as in "I asked for the general's resignation as my trust in him is no longer secure...blahblahblah" but instead he had to blame the media, again, and implicitly admit that he doesn't think that Flynn did anything wrong -- well, except for the fact that Trump got caught.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)They just know that Trump signed a bill this afternoon that means they will get their jobs back.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)That might become my new name for him.
I like it.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Trump supporters don't care about policy they just want a strongman to protect them from everything they are terrified of. Incompetence and stupidity won't faze his people. Looking weak, on the other hand, will destroy him. That's why SNL bothers them so much.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)We'll see if all this stuff with Flynn makes his numbers drop even more. As I wrote above, I think the major effect will be to solidify his numbers at the 40 percent level.
http://pollingreport.com/djt_job1.htm
Calculating
(2,955 posts)That seems to be the support level, where only his true deplorable fans support him. He would need to start a war/crash the stock market/etc to make it drop much lower.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)But a drop from 40 to 35 is not insignificant.
Also, as wrote above, the most important thing is that the numbers may be solidifying at 40 percent and it may be getting harder for them to recover too much.