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yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 04:26 PM Feb 2017

Could Lt. General Flynn be demoted in rank if convicted of lying to the FBI?

Does anyone know if this can happen to a retired military officer? A military court can impose a rank reduction for someone convicted of a crime while on active duty but I am not sure about a retired officer. Next rank down for Flynn would be Major General and would result in a reduction of retirement pay if it were to happen.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/fbi-interviewed-mike-flynn.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=64912735&pgtype=article&_r=0

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Could Lt. General Flynn be demoted in rank if convicted of lying to the FBI? (Original Post) yellowcanine Feb 2017 OP
That's a felony leftynyc Feb 2017 #1
Don't know about lying to the FBI but if Russia DURHAM D Feb 2017 #2
Recall to active duty... mickmten Feb 2017 #3
Yes pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #5
Thanks. That's helpful. Means he could get a dishonorable discharge then as well for treason. yellowcanine Feb 2017 #7
A retired Air Force general was busted recently Shrek Feb 2017 #4
I certainly hope so. redstatebluegirl Feb 2017 #6
More info: mickmten Feb 2017 #8
"Take him out and shot him" world wide wally Feb 2017 #9

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
2. Don't know about lying to the FBI but if Russia
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 04:30 PM
Feb 2017

paid him to attend that dinner that is a crime even for a retired officer.

I know this because I heard it on my TV several times in the past 20 hours.

mickmten

(13 posts)
3. Recall to active duty...
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 04:31 PM
Feb 2017

The way I understand it, a retired, regular officer (and if he's a general officer, that's him) can be recalled to active duty and be court-martialed. Rule of thumb, if you're a retired officer, receiving retirement pay, you can be recalled for court-martial. Court-martial for treason? Yowza.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
7. Thanks. That's helpful. Means he could get a dishonorable discharge then as well for treason.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 04:44 PM
Feb 2017

I am guessing he would then have nothing except 3 squares a day and a cot.

mickmten

(13 posts)
8. More info:
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 04:45 PM
Feb 2017

"WASHINGTON — Have you ever heard a retired Soldier say, “They can’t touch me now; I’ve retired.”? Fortunately, for the sake of military justice, this is not true when it comes to retired Soldiers who violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) while they were on active duty or in a retired status.

Under Article 2 of the UCMJ, the Army maintains court-martial jurisdiction over retired personnel. Army Regulation 27-10, Military Justice, states “Retired members of a regular component of the Armed Forces who are entitled to pay are subject to the provisions of the UCMJ . . . and may be tried by court-martial for violations of the UCMJ that occurred while they were on active duty or while in a retired status.” Department of the Army policy, however, does limit these trials to cases where extraordinary circumstances are present. The Army normally declines to prosecute retired Soldiers unless their crimes have clear ties to the military, or are clearly service discrediting. If necessary to facilitate courts-martial action, retired Soldiers may be ordered to active duty.

The regulation adds that “Retired Reserve Component Soldiers are subject to recall to active duty for the investigation of UCMJ offenses they are alleged to have committed while in a Title 10 duty status, for trial by court-martial, or for proceedings under UCMJ, Article 15.” Forfeitures imposed under the UCMJ, Article 15 may even be applied against a Soldier’s retired pay."

http://forums.militarytimes.com/showthread.php/7331-Retirees-subject-to-recall-for-UCMJ-Prosecution

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