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Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 06:59 PM Feb 2017

I wonder if Comey's announcement on October 28th was a red herring

Hillary had a commanding lead in the polls at the time. I simply cannot believe that millions upon millions of voters were able to trick pollsters into believing their vote would be cast for HRC, when in fact they intended to vote for Trump. This would have to have been orchestrated by the GOP. This was NOT orchestrated by the GOP.

Unknown to us (well, unknown to most Americans), the fix was already in. The election results had nothing to do with Hillary's electability. The Trump team had already sold their souls to the Russians. The Russians were likely participants in throwing the election.

Trump needed a plausible event that would give cover for the unimaginable turnaround in the numbers. Comey's announcement fit that bill, but it certainly didn't dissuade voters in the magnitude suggested. It was simply a convenient excuse in retrospect, to account for Hillary ceding a huge lead in the polls in the waning days of the campaign.

We were compromised, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least that Comey's announcement was a plant to give Trump cover from the true thief of the election.

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I wonder if Comey's announcement on October 28th was a red herring (Original Post) Mr. Ected Feb 2017 OP
Makes total sense. Lint Head Feb 2017 #1
It wasn't millions upon millions. LisaL Feb 2017 #2
Yes, of course, you're right Mr. Ected Feb 2017 #3
Maybe they were too embarrassed to admit they were going to vote for him. LisaL Feb 2017 #5
I mean, who knows. butdiduvote Feb 2017 #4
This year was unusual. DURHAM D Feb 2017 #6
It didn't have to sway many people. Hillary lost by less than 100,000 across three states. LisaL Feb 2017 #7
No, he's been a fanatical Clinton hater for decades, was on the original Warpy Feb 2017 #8
And it was timed just right. LisaL Feb 2017 #10
Not a bad theory. Comey had an effect, as did Interstate Crosscheck and Putin also brush Feb 2017 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2017 #11

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
2. It wasn't millions upon millions.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:06 PM
Feb 2017

Pollsters don't poll millions. They poll a small number of people then extrapolate. It's not an exact science. They also have to predict how many people will actually go out and vote. A lot of polls were very close, but people here refused to believe that.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
3. Yes, of course, you're right
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:10 PM
Feb 2017

Nevertheless, does it make any sense that Trump voters made a concerted and organized effort to mislead pollsters?

butdiduvote

(284 posts)
4. I mean, who knows.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:10 PM
Feb 2017

But I always found it difficult to believe that the Comey letter really swayed that many people. Most people don't pay that much attention to the news and already had their minds made up about the stupid emails by then.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
6. This year was unusual.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:14 PM
Feb 2017

There was a study/polling done that showed an inordinate number of voters decided in the last two weeks.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
7. It didn't have to sway many people. Hillary lost by less than 100,000 across three states.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:14 PM
Feb 2017

I have no doubt people were swayed.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
8. No, he's been a fanatical Clinton hater for decades, was on the original
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:18 PM
Feb 2017

Whitewater investigation team, one of those who "just knew" the Clintons were guilty of something, all he had to to was find it.

His announcement was issued to torpedo her chance at winning the presidency. It worked.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
10. And it was timed just right.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:23 PM
Feb 2017

They had the computer, they had the emails, they presumably had enough time to see what was in the emails but they didn't even ask for an warrant until Comey wrote his first letter to congress.

brush

(53,788 posts)
9. Not a bad theory. Comey had an effect, as did Interstate Crosscheck and Putin also
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:20 PM
Feb 2017

The combination swung enough voter to trump.

Remember during the last days of the Campaign trumps plane swung unexpectedly to the midwest? In my opinion his campaign was alerted that he had to get to Wis., Mich. and Pa. to make the coming tilt to trump look like his visits made the difference when it was actually election tampering on election day that targeted just enough votes to win in the EC.

That tampering was either Russian assisted or by the typical repug method of hacking the no-paper trail voting machines and Crosscheck throwing POC voters off the rolls.

And remember the 75,000 ballots in Detroit that did mark a choice for president. Come on, we know that didn't happen in a majority black city like Detroit, yet those votes were counted.

All those things are just part of the continual evolvement of repug cheating methods that we need to make a priority of stopping. If your post refers to the Comey letter as an anticipation of the over-all "death by a thousand cuts, or a thousand repug dirty tricks", I agree.

So we know they're going to try to cheat, we have to work to combat it. The new DNC chair should make that his/hers first priority.

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