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The president is asking for money to fight the media! (Original Post) Generic Other Feb 2017 OP
So now all of his trips will be campaign stops. greymattermom Feb 2017 #1
Does this violate federal election law? VMA131Marine Feb 2017 #2
On what basis? Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #4
If he is acting in his capacity as President he is acting for the US Government. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #11
I think this email is far too vague for that, Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #13
That pic - he has a "I can't believe they're falling for this BS" look underpants Feb 2017 #3
Grifter always kimbutgar Feb 2017 #5
Ugh and you know his dumb ass supporters will give him money TNLib Feb 2017 #6
And WE should be having ads EVERYWHERE telling people their SS, Medicare, Medicaid, schools, Squinch Feb 2017 #7
How do we get prepared for this fight Generic Other Feb 2017 #9
Donations to what? His campaign fund? n/t Orsino Feb 2017 #8
Yes. His ego rally was paid for from campaign funds Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #15
I think this is the only reason a man who hates being president is campaigning. Orsino Feb 2017 #17
Look for "campaign events" at his resorts soon? Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #18
Will they even bother with the subterfuge? Orsino Feb 2017 #19
Such a slimeball! Generic Other Feb 2017 #20
Oh, boy. The president is trying to raise money in order to suppress a free press. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #10
It's his defense fund. McCamy Taylor Feb 2017 #12
Always wanting a handout Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #14
So the so-called president is about to pimp his base before he goes to jail? Stellar Feb 2017 #16
So.. will the stupid brainwashed suckers cough up some dough for Cha Feb 2017 #21

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
4. On what basis?
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 02:46 PM
Feb 2017

I think he can raise money on whatever flim-flammy basis he can squeeze it out of people with, short of direct calls to violence or explicit threat to overthrow the govt, etc.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,761 posts)
11. If he is acting in his capacity as President he is acting for the US Government.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:05 PM
Feb 2017

It is not OK for the federal government to try to suppress free speech.

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
13. I think this email is far too vague for that,
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:08 PM
Feb 2017

Now his TWEET on the other hand, calling the media "The enemy of the American people" is another matter.

One has to wonder if that Tweet is actionable and if some member/entity of the media could bring that forward in court.


Squinch

(50,957 posts)
7. And WE should be having ads EVERYWHERE telling people their SS, Medicare, Medicaid, schools,
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 02:50 PM
Feb 2017

health insurance, food supply, environment are all in danger of ruin by Republicans.

WHERE is our message???

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
15. Yes. His ego rally was paid for from campaign funds
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:12 PM
Feb 2017

Meaning the venue cost; in the same manner other presidents have campaigned for reelection. Of course none of them have started campaigning one month after they took the oath before.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
17. I think this is the only reason a man who hates being president is campaigning.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:35 PM
Feb 2017

His foundation being out of reach, he wanted another big slush fund.

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
18. Look for "campaign events" at his resorts soon?
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:39 PM
Feb 2017

Charlotte, NC
Jersey
Las Vegas

Wouldn't surprise me if he has lawyers working on that right now.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,761 posts)
10. Oh, boy. The president is trying to raise money in order to suppress a free press.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:04 PM
Feb 2017

Is this unconstitutional or what? The First Amendment says "Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press." Does this also apply to the executive branch? The Supreme Court seems to think it does. In New York Times Co. v. United States, the Pentagon Papers case, they said:

Our Government was launched in 1789 with the adoption of the Constitution. The Bill of Rights, including the First Amendment, followed in 1791. Now, for the first time in the 182 years since the founding of the Republic, the federal courts are asked to hold that the First Amendment does not mean what it says, but rather means that the Government can halt the publication of current news of vital importance to the people of this country.

In seeking injunctions against these newspapers, and in its presentation to the Court, the Executive Branch seems to have forgotten the essential purpose and history of the First Amendment. When the Constitution was adopted, many people strongly opposed it because the document contained no Bill of Rights to safeguard certain basic freedoms. They especially feared that the new powers granted to a central government might be interpreted to permit the government to curtail freedom of religion, press, assembly, and speech. In response to an overwhelming public clamor, James Madison offered a series of amendments to satisfy citizens that these great liberties would remain safe and beyond the power of government to abridge. Madison proposed what later became the First Amendment in three parts, two of which are set out below, and one of which proclaimed: "The people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak, to write, or to publish their sentiments, and the freedom of the press, as one of the great bulwarks of liberty, shall be inviolable."

The amendments were offered to curtail and restrict the general powers granted to the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial Branches two years before in the original Constitution. The Bill of Rights changed the original Constitution into a new charter under which no branch of government could abridge the people's freedoms of press, speech, religion, and assembly.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/403/713/case.html

I hope somebody, maybe the ACLU or a media organization, challenges this in court.

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
14. Always wanting a handout
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:12 PM
Feb 2017

Tsk tsk. Really hilarious considering they suck up to his dumb fatass as it is. How are they "the enemy"
What's to fight? What, really? ROFL

Not sucking up to him enough?

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
16. So the so-called president is about to pimp his base before he goes to jail?
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:13 PM
Feb 2017

I'll leave this for 45 here too.


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