If we all switched to R could we screw with their gerrymandering?

[jodymarie aimee]

You guys know more than I do....in WI we have been screwed for 7 years now.

[crazycatlady]

1. Not every state has partisan registration

And switching to R is nothing as they look at past voting performance, not partisan affiliation.

[Hugin]

2. They use registration to determine demographics.

Which leads to voter suppression. For instance, closing early voting sites because self-identified Democrats tend to vote early.

[TheDebbieDee]

4. But for the states that do have partisan registration

It would make it more difficult for those ba$tards to know where to draw the lines!

[crazycatlady]

9. THe OP mentioned Wisconsin, a state without partisan registration

[still_one]

3. Electing walker, Johnson wasn't because of gerrymandering as far as I am aware

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[jodymarie aimee]

5. the heck it wasn't

we have lost tons of state Senate and Assembly seats, also. Have you ever looked at our maps? They are nuts, and we recently won in court to have them redrawn ASAP. Rs are gonna spend $175,000 of our $$ to fight it.

[still_one]

6. How are state wide offices such as govenor, or federal senators the result of gerrymandering?

Walker not only survived the recall vote, but also won reelection

Hillary lost Wisconsin not because of gerrymandering. The 1% that voted for Jill Stein made a difference

[uponit7771]

12. They're not, voter suppression is though

[still_one]

13. Thank you uponit, and I agree

[jodymarie aimee]

15. I contacted my state rep and she replied here

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/wisconsin-redistricting-found-to-unfairly-favor-republicans.html?_r=0

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/23/wisconsins-gerrymander-being-struck-down-should-scare-republicans-nationwide/?utm_term=.bd765b4db6dd

http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2016/12/28/data-wonk-2016-election-results-prove-gerrymandering/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/21/wisconsin-gerrymandering-district-court-2016-election-decision

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/voter-turnout-united-states/

"According to interviews with research institutions, advocacy groups and legislators involved in those efforts, restrictive voting laws in some states discourage the electorate from registering to vote. Additionally, they said gerrymandered districts cut across party lines reducing the number of competitive races and interest, and disgruntled citizens, fed up with the often contentious nature of politics, can choose not participate."

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 3:33 PM, <[e-mail]> wrote:

Katrina, I am having a debate with someone on the blog...I said we have lost seats due to gerrymandering. They said I am nuts.

[still_one]

16. I was SPECIFICALLY referring to races that are NOT affected by gerrymandering

Those are the Governor's Race, Federal Senators, and Presidential elections

The WHOLE state of Wisconsin voted for Scott Walker and Ron Johnson multiple times. Those races were not the result of gerrymandering

As to losing district state seats, or representative seats, those office are the result of gerrymandering

I am not sure if your last sentence is referring to our dialog, because if it is, you have entirely misrepresented the discussion.

1. I NEVER said you were "nuts"
2. I was referring to Governor and federal offices. Why don't you ask how gerrymandering affected the Scott Walker, Ron Johnson and Russ Feingold races. I would be very curious how they would argue that those races were affected by gerrymandering

[jodymarie aimee]

17. that is precisely what I did

and I posted her answer here. Do you not get that Pres, Gov, Senate races are on the same ballot as state Senate/Assembly races? And no, the WHOLE state did not vote for Walker or Johnson. Dialogue over on my part. It all started with a whimsical question about switching parties....relating to gerrymandering.....I repeat.....whimsical.....

[still_one]

20. Election results for Scott Walker

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/2014/wisconsin-elections

Election results for Russ Feingold:

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/wisconsin-senate-johnson-feingold

Election results for Hillary in Wisconsin:

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/wisconsin

Note, Hillary lost by .7% and Jill Stein received 1%. That made a difference

[still_one]

14. Note, I mistakingly included Ryan in my original post, which was incorrect to the point I

was making. I meant to refer to only governor and federal senate offices which are NOT affected by gerrymandering

[ElementaryPenguin]

7. I thought along those lines too

If EVERYONE were a Republican - we could vote out the conservatives just by our sheer numbers - and elect progressive "Republicans" who were former Democrats like GOP Sen. Elizabeth Warren. Make them have to start their own party.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

8. we'd have to switch to being white

which is somewhat harder to accomplish

[Ken Burch]

10. cough, cough..."Nikki Haley"....cough cough..."Bobby Jindal"...

(Sort of surprised he didn't make it "Bobby Ray" just to be on the safe side).

[MFM008]

11. I couldn't do it

not even temporary....

[MineralMan]

18. No. It's how the votes turn out in state legislative

elections that control that. Vote for Democrats. Encourage everyone to vote for Democrats. Never pretend to be something you are not. In 2018, we're going to need every Democratic voter we can bring to the polls.

[MosheFeingold]

19. Not sure

But it would certainly screw with polling samples.

I do know a lot of Democratic people in red states register as Republicans to have some sort of voice -- in the primary -- as there is no point in bothering on the Democrat side in most areas. A lot of time there is no Democratic candidate. Texas is like this.

[csziggy]

21. Two of my brothers in law are registered as Republicans

Partly because they are in very red parts of Florida and want to have a say in the primaries that can decide many local races.But they originally switched to Republican to screw around with the higher level races such as governor and president. In those primaries they vote for the candidates most likely to be vulnerable to losing to Democrats.

[Marthe48]

22. I'm posing as a disgruntled repug on FB

commenting about the money being spent for trump's golfing trips, guarding trump tower, about other things, and saying I want my Republican party back. I'm trying to reframe my argument