Does anyone here actually consider tRump to be "president?"

[stopbush]

Because I certainly do not.

I look at him and the word "president" doesn't come to mind. Asshole, shithead and dumb fuck come to mind.

Look, I didn't much like Nixon or Reagan or either Bush. But when I looked at them, I saw them as presidents. Bad presidents on the wrong side of history for the most part, but presidents.

Don't see that with tRump, any more than I would see a carnival barker standing in an OR as a surgeon. Any more than I would see a 5-year-old named dean of a university as a dean.

TRump is a usurper in the worst sense of the word.

[yuiyoshida]

1. I am not sure what he is, but he certainly isn't

Presidential....

[Doreen]

2. He is a dictator.

I have NEVER called him a president.

[guillaumeb]

3. Reagan was a confused clown.

Nixon was a crook.

Bush was a dry alcoholic.

Trump is a lunatic.

What pathetic choices.

[stopbush]

5. The first president I was really aware of was JFK.

I was 6 when he was elected.

Tough act to follow.

[Takket]

4. he holds the title by technicallity only,

and only because Chaffitz is too cowardly to do his job.

by any rational analysis drumpf

1. doesn't deserve it
2. didn't earn it
3. disgraces the office with ever second he holds it

[samnsara]

6. oh hell no...

..hes a bench warmer gone rogue. And if the GOP cant get ahold of him soon they will lose control of him completely!

[BigMin28]

7. He will

Always be an interloping nut job to me.

[Mars and Minerva]

8. I don't even consider him to be Human

and I assume the a prerequisite for the job of POTUS.

[dem4decades]

9. He's the President, sadly, but Bannon is running the show.

[Mr. Ected]

10. I wonder if they'll call him "President Trump" in prison

Since his imminent criminal sentence will be based on aligning with a foreign country to throw our national election.

Semantics, I know.

[dalton99a]

11. 100% unqualified, 100% unfit, lost the election. NO.

[izzybella]

16. And he's not the slightest bit interested doing in the actual job.

As scary as it is, I hope the Republicans let him destroy everything. If we survive, their party will be toast.

[mindem]

12. I'm going with the usurper viewpoint.

Whatever he is, I can't see how the country can survive four years drumph and total repuke rule. The country will be ripped to shreds.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

13. No. He's a fucking embarrassment. And he's also a dangerous, ignorant megalomaniac.

I never saw Reagan or Bush as presidents either.

[brooklynite]

14. Yes, I do...

As much as I may loathe him, this isn't about him; it's about the United States of America. And Trump is the President. He has the power and authority of the Presidency and the clear inclination to use them. Ignoring that is unrealistic.

[moriah]

19. True, ursurper and dictator don't exclude "President".

But in no way do I consider him "Presidential".

[leftstreet]

15. Yes. But I think of him as the President of the Christian White Right

It sounds he like and his people think of him that way, too

Weird statements like 'you finally have a President' etc

[luvMIdog]

17. I think of him as an unregistered sexual predator

AND dictator

[bdamomma]

18. No

a mobster more like it

[jmg257]

20. I do. And I do not overlook the damge he can do in that role. He does have all that executive power

invested in him.

4 years is a long time.

[doc03]

21. I consider him a traitor until proven otherwise nt

[monmouth4]

22. I saw my President today coming out of Starbucks. He is the only President to me..n/t

[HipChick]

23. Not I...just seems to be an angry,old paranoid man with a mop on his head..

[Solly Mack]

24. No. I know he is but I just don't see him as one.

If that makes sense.

He's called president. Other world leaders call him president. Congress calls him president. The press usually calls him president, though if you take notice, a lot of time they call him Mr Trump or simply Trump.

But he's still not a president to me.

If any of that makes sense.

[UTUSN]

25. I thought it couldn't get worse than Shrub - heck i couldn't imagine how bad Shrub was

[Ilsa]

26. He has power and authority. Unfortunately,

He's president, which makes him my pres.

[ProudLib72]

27. No and I want to go a step further

to have congress exempt him from the roster of presidents. After all this has passed, let's make whoever comes after tRump the 45th president.

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. What I know is Russia hacked our election, including voting. What I know is in Detroit

which is mostly black voters, 70,000 of them do NOT show up and vote but leave prez spot blank.

What I know is in FL double the usual number dont do the same.

The election was itself stolen in those rust belt states and while crosscheck alone accounts for a stolen election, there was more to it than that.

What I know is the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen. What I know is the first Reagan election was stolen via treason by Reagan, well documented now, as was Nixon in his first election, also well documented treason.

Republicans cant win national elections, there arent enough of them. It is that simple.

[greatauntoftriplets]

29. I try not to think about him.

Wish he'd stop intruding on my mind by doing stupidly outrageous things.

[Kilgore]

30. Most of my town/county does

And we went for Obama twice.

[jack69]

31. There are two big problems,

those that voted for trump and those that didn't vote. Need massive reeducation program for both.

[wiggs]

32. Even if...IF... the Russians didn't meddle in the election, he gained the office by

outright lying to voters. Lies about himself, about other candidates, about facts, about history, etc.....

...in my view that's fraud. At the very least it's not democracy. The basis of democracy is a well informed public and he and the gop worked hard to undermine that.

On top of it all, there's voter suppression, gerrymandering, media consolidation, citizens united, etc. All gop tactics. When we elect a gop candidate, much of the time it doesn't have much to do with democracy.

[bagelsforbreakfast]

33. In the 50's and 60's there were honorable and smart Republicans; now they're all greedy neo-Nazis.

To think Gen. Eisenhower fought a war only to see his enemy eventually win 70 years later. If Robert Ludlum were alive he'd write a novel about it. Maybe he already did - The Scarlatti Inheritance. And to cnn, Ike would be to the left of Bernie!

[jimjc]

34. Not a President to me

All I see is a con man, every word he says is a con. His whole
family are cons. Blumberg said on TV "he knows a con when
he sees it and trump's a con man running a con.

[BigDemVoter]

35. No. He's a lying squatter.

[highplainsdem]

36. I don't. Russia intervened in the election and Trump is Putin's puppet.

[tallahasseedem]

37. No.

Barack is still my President in spirit.

[Equinox Moon]

38. I see him living within his own delusion, at our expense.

No, he is not the US president.

[Maru Kitteh]

39. No. He was not duly elected.

PERIOD! (in the words of Sean Spicer)