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global1

(25,261 posts)
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:34 AM Mar 2017

Are Others Feeling That We've Experience A Coup d etat In November?.....

It was a total takeover - the presidency, the house and the senate. The Dems are basically powerless. All the committee's in Congress are stacked against us so as to ignore the truth. And now they are systematically destroying the government from the inside.

Are there no patriots in the Repug Party that still believe in the USA that would stand up to this administration?

Right after the November election - I stated that I felt demoralized by what we saw happen. It is now America Held Hostage Day 48 and I can't find a word that expresses my feelings now that is worse than demoralized.

I would like to say that good always triumphs over evil - but - I'm questioning even that now. All I can say is HELP!!!!!!

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Are Others Feeling That We've Experience A Coup d etat In November?..... (Original Post) global1 Mar 2017 OP
Sadly it started prior to November with all the anti-HRC Russian bots. sarcasmo Mar 2017 #1
This cannot be emphasized enough. susanna Mar 2017 #22
I Certainly Feel The Same Way. When I Survey The Situation It Looks Bad Feels Bad. TheMastersNemesis Mar 2017 #2
It is as bad as it looks and feels still_one Mar 2017 #13
Agree!Thank you Global for saying this.Good does NOT Alice11111 Mar 2017 #24
We must still resist though still_one Mar 2017 #27
I agree!! Resistance/Us, some of the media, & the Truth Alice11111 Mar 2017 #31
I think it started years ago, at least as far back as Reagan. It just continues to get worse. jalan48 Mar 2017 #3
It's not a feeling. It's a fact. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #4
"America will fall without a shot being fired. It will fall from within." - Nikita Khrushchev dalton99a Mar 2017 #5
Prescient triron Mar 2017 #9
Good can triumph over evil. But we have to do it. 20 months until the next election. We must get all caroldansen Mar 2017 #6
The electoral process has also been corrupted. triron Mar 2017 #10
!!! Alice11111 Mar 2017 #19
What to do about Crosscheck / voter blocking, voterID laws, redistricting & the rest? Crash2Parties Mar 2017 #23
James Comey's treasonous behavior is undeniable Warpy Mar 2017 #7
!!! Comey Alice11111 Mar 2017 #18
Yeah, 'cause we did Cha Mar 2017 #8
LOL. Yep! Alice11111 Mar 2017 #25
Yes mahina Mar 2017 #11
Home of the brave? world wide wally Mar 2017 #12
I think about this all the time. I mean, one minute we were hearing we might take manicraven Mar 2017 #14
!!! Alice11111 Mar 2017 #17
si. agrees. AllaN01Bear Mar 2017 #15
Never a doubt in my mind. It was obvious. DT people Alice11111 Mar 2017 #16
Ummmmm...no. Since I lived through one (Athens, 1967) A HERETIC I AM Mar 2017 #20
The Repubs did the same thing without tanks or Alice11111 Mar 2017 #28
According to that standard, I fully agree Warpy Mar 2017 #33
Yes, it's a coup. zentrum Mar 2017 #21
Months later, I can't help but think that something very, very sinister went down. butdiduvote Mar 2017 #26
Yes, we flipped 180 within 10 days. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #29
"Suspicious as f!#@".. furtheradu Mar 2017 #32
Definitely a coup... LovinBlueInKY Mar 2017 #30
I take a harder line. gordianot Mar 2017 #34
This felt different from the start. From 2015. Martin Luther King Jr. said, catbyte Mar 2017 #35
The surviving remnants of the Civil Rights movement clearly recognize where we are today. gordianot Mar 2017 #36
Yes get the red out Mar 2017 #37
We are watching the complete destruction of democracy and the USA. sinkingfeeling Mar 2017 #38

susanna

(5,231 posts)
22. This cannot be emphasized enough.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 03:22 AM
Mar 2017

I have never - in thirty years of political gamesmanship - ever seen anything like it.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
2. I Certainly Feel The Same Way. When I Survey The Situation It Looks Bad Feels Bad.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:38 AM
Mar 2017

What happened becomes more obvious by the day.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
24. Agree!Thank you Global for saying this.Good does NOT
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 03:34 AM
Mar 2017

always triumph over evil. I would "like to think" that too, but it's a cliché. Let's see if we can spin the Holocaust, oh yeah, karma.

Only by admitting the TRUTH of what happened and is happening do we even have a chance. This thread was a breath of fresh air...Truth. I am so tired of hearing all the platitudes that are a total denial of reality.

If we don't deal with reality, we are just as lost as they are. Fake News aside, THEY hold all of the power. We only have some of the media, ourselves to challenge the lies, and the truth. Let's please, please hold on to the truth.

Sunlight at last.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
31. I agree!! Resistance/Us, some of the media, & the Truth
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 03:58 AM
Mar 2017

are all we have.

There are a few strong Dems, though a lot are late comers...would have been nice if you had shown up in time. Still, we start with a true assessment of our situation and do all we can.

One thing that may inadvertently help us is that when the Repubs get down to policy nuances, they may implode. Then again, DT and the RW nuts, who just want to make drastic decisions, without a clue how to implement them may prevail...like repealing Obamacare, without a "better" replacement, for which DT campaigned.

caroldansen

(725 posts)
6. Good can triumph over evil. But we have to do it. 20 months until the next election. We must get all
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:44 AM
Mar 2017

The Democrats in!

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
7. James Comey's treasonous behavior is undeniable
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:49 AM
Mar 2017

He torpedoed the Clinton campaign by innuendo just days before the election and the corrupt bastard is still sitting on all the information he has on Trump's Russian connections, especially those with mobsters.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
18. !!! Comey
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 03:17 AM
Mar 2017

He wants to be some kind of hero, honorable, as he said, when he has the last perfectionist detail worked out and he releases it. Comey, you already fucked up the world. Nothing you do right will ever balance out with the evil and incompetence you have brought on the world.

manicraven

(901 posts)
14. I think about this all the time. I mean, one minute we were hearing we might take
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:20 AM
Mar 2017

all three branches because it was a big blue wave, and the next thing, the most terrible, lying, misogynistic, racist, xenophobic, illiterate and ignorant, Russian colluding, narcissist is in the White House, and we have zero power to do much of anything except sign petitions and carry signs around and are forced to watch while the GOP shreds our country to bits so they can gift their donors with even more of the pie.

So, in a nutshell, absolutely!

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
16. Never a doubt in my mind. It was obvious. DT people
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 03:06 AM
Mar 2017

said this very stuff at various times and places. Him, his sons, the news. Im going to get pushback, but WTF didnt the Dems put it out there? Other than Bernie, and sometimes Bill C, most would not call it what it was or publicly connect the dots. Tippy toe, be really quiet and nice and maybe the Repubs will be nice back. How has that worked? We have lost our country. Even if we win now, it will take decades to undo the damage caused to us by DT, plus the loss of our reputation. Hillary, who I supported, was beaten to death with lies. Some of the media are now putting it out there. As RM said tonight, I've decided no one else is going to do it, we better. I guess they thought the Dems were going to do it in the election. The DNC was in turmoil, changing leaders, and both had lost all credibility, and the neophytes running the camp were so craven they didn't even go into Wisconsin or Michigan because they didnt want to stir it up. There were at least 20 other reasons we lost. However, most of them can be boiled down to, we let them steamroll right over us with fake bs and lies, and we didn’t nail them for the stuff that they REALLY did.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,372 posts)
20. Ummmmm...no. Since I lived through one (Athens, 1967)
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 03:20 AM
Mar 2017

I would say no, it doesn't qualify as a coup d' etat



When you have tanks in the streets, major political figures being arrested and the press and radio shut down, then you might have something

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
28. The Repubs did the same thing without tanks or
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 03:40 AM
Mar 2017

blood. Just more insidious, better planning, more power, and less violent.

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
33. According to that standard, I fully agree
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 04:04 AM
Mar 2017

What we are now suffering through is the founding fathers' worst nightmare, that the uneducated masses would directly elect an ignorant populist with several large screws loose. It's why they stuck the antidemocratic EC into the constitution, as a protection against the rabble going against the interest of the country and electing a fool.

Well, that has happened. The EC failed to do their duty to the constitution and were loyal only to their party, so the fool was installed against the votes of the majority for the second time in my lifetime.

No, it wasn't a coup, exactly, although it does feel like one in many ways.

Our best hope now is that the Congress becomes frightened enough of their constituents to rectify the error, starting with getting that model of corruption, Comey, into the hot seat to find out just what's going on with 45's Russian "entanglements."

butdiduvote

(284 posts)
26. Months later, I can't help but think that something very, very sinister went down.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 03:38 AM
Mar 2017

The exact nature of it I don't know. Something very evil and undemocratic happened, though. I can't believe that Hillary simply was so unpopular that that many people stayed home or that so many working class people were just wooed by his promises to bring back their coal jobs. I live in Georgia and remember the people at my campaign office genuinely pushing the idea that Georgia could turn blue. I remember the early voting reports that Hillary's Florida lead was all but insurmountable. I remember all of the talk about how the Republicans were in trouble if they didn't do some serious modernizing and accept that the left won the culture wars.

I could maybe accept a few things not going as we were anticipating, like maybe Hillary actually lost but it was only because of one state or Hillary won, but the Rs overperformed in the House and Senate races. This giant red wave is suspicious as fuck. I want answers as to what happened. I deserve them as an American citizen. None of the answers I've been given thus far are satisfactory or even believable.

furtheradu

(1,865 posts)
32. "Suspicious as f!#@"..
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 04:02 AM
Mar 2017

Last edited Thu Mar 9, 2017, 08:19 AM - Edit history (1)

..SO describes my convictions (not feelings) after November 8. Thank you. Stay strong. 💜

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
34. I take a harder line.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 05:07 AM
Mar 2017

In terms of war this was the perfect war and we lost. The perfect crime has always been the crime that was committed and no one knows that there was a crime. The perfect war is one which was committed and no one officially acknowledges it ever happened. We were invaded and lost the first great Cyber War with Russia. We now have an illegitimate government supported by domestic traitors and are occupied by agents of the Russian Federation. Anyone at any level who supports or works for Donald Trump is a traitor.

catbyte

(34,414 posts)
35. This felt different from the start. From 2015. Martin Luther King Jr. said,
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 05:13 AM
Mar 2017

"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice."

With this gang of traitors, criminals, crackpots, bigots, and miscreants currently infesting government at every level, that arc has taken a disastrous u-turn. We must fight tooth and nail to get it back on track.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
36. The surviving remnants of the Civil Rights movement clearly recognize where we are today.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 05:40 AM
Mar 2017

We have been invaded by racism, hate, xenophobia and a real foreign enemy government. Dr. King if he were alive today would face the same enemy + to his message. Hope is dying a quick death.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
37. Yes
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 06:25 AM
Mar 2017

I did not until it became obvious that 45 is a Russian asset, as well as those around him, and it doesn't seem to matter at all.

sinkingfeeling

(51,468 posts)
38. We are watching the complete destruction of democracy and the USA.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 09:34 AM
Mar 2017

Even if things could be reversed in 2018 or 2020 (and they will make that an impossibly by changing who can vote), it would exceed my lifetime to fix.

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