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When is it too hot for your dog? (Original Post) TalkingDog Jun 2012 OP
Petunia - the pitie mic - she gets too easy, easy, easy. xchrom Jun 2012 #1
"So nothing is too hot for her." Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #3
I think the poster didn't mean it in that way magical thyme Jun 2012 #8
Ok... Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #10
I've got a part NC Dog. They are skittish aren't they? TalkingDog Jun 2012 #5
Is he a talking dog? randome Jun 2012 #9
No, I'm the only dog in our pack who talks on a regular basis. TalkingDog Jun 2012 #15
What is an NC dog? Quantess Jun 2012 #20
American Dingo TalkingDog Jun 2012 #21
He's a handsome dog. Quantess Jun 2012 #22
No, they always ask what he is, because people think he'd make a great pet for their kids. TalkingDog Jul 2012 #35
I had an Akita mix. Miss that dog so much. susanna Jul 2012 #28
Sorry, I would follow the instruction to a point SoutherDem Jun 2012 #2
+1 magical thyme Jun 2012 #6
Yep greytdemocrat Jun 2012 #7
I would have NO compunction about busting a window Brother Buzz Jun 2012 #11
Would you believe Quantess Jun 2012 #19
So the neighbor left the dog but is mad at a stranger for not letting it out? Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #27
No it doesn't make much sense except Quantess Jul 2012 #32
Same here. n/t susanna Jul 2012 #29
I dunno, she stays inside in the air conditioning almost all the time. Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #4
If it is too hot for you, it is too hot for your dog. RebelOne Jun 2012 #12
Most of today - and that was just in the yard. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #13
You are a great friend to your dog, HopeHoops. susanna Jul 2012 #31
We keep fresh water for them out in the yard, but sometimes they just want to go in. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #33
I know... susanna Jul 2012 #38
They're usually right. I rely on them for many things. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #40
I regret that I have but one rec to give to the dogs Stinky The Clown Jun 2012 #14
Malumute or saluki? FarCenter Jun 2012 #16
Kicking for the dogs, HappyMe Jun 2012 #17
Kick and recommend highly. Wouldn't it feel cool to save a dog today? jtuck004 Jun 2012 #18
I called the authorities 3 days ago sorefeet Jun 2012 #23
Props to you. I'd do the exact same thing. n/t susanna Jul 2012 #39
I have become assertive & vocal about this in recent years, when I see a dog in a hot car. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #24
Excellent reminder! Thx! My dogs STAY AT HOME when it's warm outside, when I run errands. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #25
It's too hot for them here, unfortunately phylny Jun 2012 #26
k&r nt steve2470 Jul 2012 #30
When they start getting those black blisters 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #34
We are starting into Meiko Jul 2012 #36
Brachycephalic breeds are especially prone to heat stroke due to their shortened snouts. smokey nj Jul 2012 #37

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
1. Petunia - the pitie mic - she gets too easy, easy, easy.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:13 PM
Jun 2012

I don't have any trouble keeping her in the AC.

Effie is part NC Dog - American Dingo - and she's afraid of the AC or central heat - doesn't like the noise.

So nothing is too hot for her.
I have to make her come inside - out of the heat. Where upon she makes me feel bad cause I've done something bad to her.


All Effie ever wants is for the back door to be open and she can come and go as she likes.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
8. I think the poster didn't mean it in that way
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:31 PM
Jun 2012

if you read the entire post, the carolina dog doesn't want to stay inside with a/c or heat running, so the poster *makes* her stay inside in the a/c.

I think she meant something along the that her dog "believes that nothing is too hot for her."

Carolina dogs are not as domesticated as other dogs, so maybe warier of "civilized" things.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
5. I've got a part NC Dog. They are skittish aren't they?
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:23 PM
Jun 2012

It took mine almost exactly a year to let my husband approach or pet him without either being commanded to sit and stay or being next to me.

But he is brave and loyal and has a heart that will not quit.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
15. No, I'm the only dog in our pack who talks on a regular basis.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:12 PM
Jun 2012

The hubby unfortunately, is not a dog nor man-dog. We still give him props for keeping everybody fed and watered tho.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
21. American Dingo
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:37 PM
Jun 2012

They are feral descendants of the dogs native Americans kept. Those dogs are descended from Akita dogs which came with the natives who migrated across the Bering Straits from the Asian land mass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Dog


Carolina Dog


Akita

You can see the resemblance.


"The Carolina Dog has a method length directly back, well developed chest and well tucked up belly, providing it a slight resemblance to the sight hound breeds. It has a extended neck, wedge shaped mind with potent jaws, almond shaped dim eye using a soft, intelligent, however alert expression, and large erect large arranged ears that are really mobile. The Carolina Dog is really well muscled and potent for its size, showing strong, free of cost and agile movements using an awesome offer of generate and is also really versatile and capable to turn instantly.there is a profusion of lengthier shield hairs near to the neck, withers and back that might be erect once the Dog is aroused. The coloring from the Carolina Dog is distinctive, typically a deep red-colored ginger with pale buff markings near to the shoulders and part from the muzzle, and paler shadings on underside, throat and chest. Lighter shades of red-colored and lotion are not uncommon. Darker shading much more compared to back, loins and tail is permitted."



This is my Red Dog. I think he might be a Beagle/Carolina dog mix. You can see the similarities in coloring, skull shape, eye shape and somewhat in the body shape and proportions. The picture doesn't show it, but the tail does curl, but not in a tight "fish hook" like a more "pure" Carolina Dog.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
22. He's a handsome dog.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jun 2012

People come up to you and tell you what breed/s he is, am I right?

I love mixed breed dogs. They seem to be a little smarter than the purebreds, and have fewer health problems, based on my experience with dogs. Mixed breed dogs have that genetic balance in their favor.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
35. No, they always ask what he is, because people think he'd make a great pet for their kids.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 11:34 AM
Jul 2012

He's very calm and obedient when asked to be.

That part comes from the Akita/Dingo side. But they don't realize that he's only calm and obedient because I'm asking him to be at that point. He doesn't like strangers and is shy/skittish.

We've only ever had rescue/stray dogs for the reasons you list. They rarely display the worst of their genetic background and IMHO tend to be smarter.

susanna

(5,231 posts)
28. I had an Akita mix. Miss that dog so much.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 12:57 AM
Jul 2012

She was just beautiful. When she was full grown, she looked a lot like the Akita you posted, with different coloration (reddish "main fur" with white markings on the chest, paws and a darker tail). She had the curled, bushy tail for sure. My girl was really powerful through the chest and amazingly strong. Not sure what her mix was, but I think it must have been big. She weighed 100 lbs. at two years old (top weight of a female Akita - they are usually between 70-100). She stayed 100 lbs. her whole life (and, according to the vet, she wasn't overweight...she was definitely sleek and strong and agile).

She didn't like the heat, but then she had a true Akita undercoat, which it appears the American Dingo/Carolina dogs do not. In fact, my girl was devoted to AC in the summer and would seek out the coolest parts of the house. Winter? That dog would loll about outside all day long if I let her...in freezing temps. (I didn't let her.)

It's fascinating to learn about these dogs! Thanks for posting the pics. Very interesting to see the similarities.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
2. Sorry, I would follow the instruction to a point
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:16 PM
Jun 2012

But, if needed I would break the window (then pay for it of course) to save the dog.

Brother Buzz

(36,463 posts)
11. I would have NO compunction about busting a window
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:35 PM
Jun 2012

and cost of the window is the least of the owners concerns, what with the police I summoned standing there wanting to talk with said owner.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
19. Would you believe
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:48 PM
Jun 2012

I had a neighbor who left her dog in her SUV while she was in the mall. The doors were unlocked. Someone saw the dog suffering in the heat, but later he/she said they were afraid to open the car door. Instead, the person called the authorities but the dog had already died by the time help arrived. My neighbor was mad that the person didn't just open the door.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,337 posts)
27. So the neighbor left the dog but is mad at a stranger for not letting it out?
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:34 PM
Jun 2012

That doesn't make any sense.

If I have to stop anywhere with my dog I will lock her in the car with the car running and the A/C on. Even then only for a few minutes just in case something goes wrong (engine stalls etc.).

Last summer I had to pick up a prescription for a sick friend and stopped at a Walgreen's drug store. I left my girl locked in the car with then engine running. As I was checking out, I noticed a woman who seemed upset talking to one of the managers. On my way out I noticed they were a few steps ahead of me with phone and paper in hand.

As I got up to the car the woman looked like she was ready to kill. After I informed her the truck was running with the air on, she was quite relieved. I apologized for causing her distress and thanked her for looking out for dogs. Turns out she runs a rescue. Nice lady.

I worry more about some asshole stealing my dog when I leave her alone. She "guards" the truck pretty fiercely and can be intimidating but I don't know how intimidating she would be to someone stealing dogs for fighting bait.

Here's the slug. Bear. Hanging out on the couch. She's a great hangover dog:

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
32. No it doesn't make much sense except
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 08:42 AM
Jul 2012

it is easier to blame someone else than admit your own fault, when a pet dies in your hot vehicle.

When I see dogs sitting inside vehicles with just a tiny crack open, I wonder what the owner is so paranoid about? Why not open each window as far open as possible, just up to the point where the dog can't jump out. I think to myself, nobody wants to rob the junk inside your shitty vehicle, especially not with the dog guarding it.(not you, LOL)

Stealing dogs: yes that's a risk, too. The best thing is to always be cognizant that your dog is waiting for you, and to make it quick!

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
4. I dunno, she stays inside in the air conditioning almost all the time.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:22 PM
Jun 2012

If she bugs me I let her out and she can push the door open to let herself back in. Then I shut the door again to keep the heat out.


The worst part is that I work outdoors in the heat while she is at home in the air conditioning.

It's a dog's live.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
12. If it is too hot for you, it is too hot for your dog.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:39 PM
Jun 2012

Do not leave your dog outside in the heat. I used to have a Rottweiler (who is now in doggie heaven) who loved to ride in the car on the weekends when I went shopping and she would be so disappointed in the summer because she could not go. I now have two little dogs (a Chihuahua and a mini-pin) who only go out on a leash. Today was over 100 degrees and they were only out briefly because it was too hot for me and them.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
13. Most of today - and that was just in the yard.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:59 PM
Jun 2012

I use a service dog, but I made do without her today because I refused to take her out in a car in this heat.

susanna

(5,231 posts)
31. You are a great friend to your dog, HopeHoops.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 01:05 AM
Jul 2012

The heat has been brutal this summer. I don't have a dog currently, but I've been keeping an eye out for canine pals wherever I go...

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
18. Kick and recommend highly. Wouldn't it feel cool to save a dog today?
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:43 PM
Jun 2012

Be subtle, but check out the seats of the cars as you walk to the doors and back. Watch the traffic around you, too. People get used to treating their dogs like a bag or something, and we lose them here every year. Even the window open often can't overcome sunshine.

Btw, check around for employees who leave their dog in the car for the whole shift. If you are able, perhaps you can volunteer to take their dog home with you for a day or more. When someone is barely making minuscule wage, and their dog (or cat - often in a carrier) is not safe at home, they may not be able to afford anything else.

And while some people suggest maybe they shouldn't "have a pet", one should remember that this might be their only friend in this world.


I've done this a couple of times. There are few other resources out there unless you have money, and I am sure they will appreciate YOU.

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
23. I called the authorities 3 days ago
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:05 PM
Jun 2012

I drove by this house a few times and noticed two dogs in a 10x10 fenced area on a concrete slab with zero shelter and it was getting into the 90's. I pulled into the driveway and talked to a lady about 25 years old. Of course she had her AC running. I told her how wrong it was that these dogs had to lay in the heat all day when only 30 feet away was the yard with huge cottonwood trees. She said well they got water and mom wouldn't let them in the house. I said never mind I didn't come here to argue the authoities can decide. So I called them. Now when I go by the dogs are in the yard under the shade trees.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
24. I have become assertive & vocal about this in recent years, when I see a dog in a hot car.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:13 PM
Jun 2012

I don't know if it does any good, but maybe it makes the owner think twice before he does it again. Sometimes people just don't think about things from the dog's point of view.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
25. Excellent reminder! Thx! My dogs STAY AT HOME when it's warm outside, when I run errands.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:16 PM
Jun 2012

I keep the house warmer than I like, to save on my bills. But still, it's comfortable enough, and they are safe, SECURE, cool, with plenty of water. When I get home, I know I'll find my little wards safe and happy!

phylny

(8,386 posts)
26. It's too hot for them here, unfortunately
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:21 PM
Jun 2012

I say unfortunately, because they are allowed to come to work with me, but I see some Early Intervention kids on the way to the office. From the end of September to about April, it's no problem. They hang out in the car with some water and the windows cracked, and are really happy to spend the day with me (in the car for an hour or two, then in my office). But this time of year, they stay home in the A/C and I have a dog sitter come take them out midday when no one's home to do it.

Our Cavalier King Charles Spaniel would prefer to be with me on the dock all the time no matter what the outside temp, while our shelter boy mixed breed just gets too hot. As I said, they're pampered in the A/C and deserve it

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
36. We are starting into
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 11:44 AM
Jul 2012

the car baking season here in Phoenix where the inside temperature of your car in the summer can be 140+. I hope beyond hope that people are learning but we will see. Every year we have several cases of dogs being left in cars, a cop did it one year and his K-9 died as a result. It does not take long for a dog to die in a hot car,usually they have no water which compounds the problem.

Another trend we see here in Phoenix is the baking of young children along with the family dog.I have seen it happen several times a year where some brain dead mother leaves her child in an un air condition vehicle in the middle of the summer and goes shopping, a passerby usually sees the child and calls for help, most of the time it's to late.

The third scenario we see is leaving the kids and dogs in the car with the engine running, horrible idea. We live in car theft heaven in Phoenix and there is a good chance that your vehicle, along with your kids and dog will be gone when you return from wherever it is you went.

Please people spread the word. In the summer leave the pets at home. It will be more comfortable for them and easier on you. And please remember your children for crying out loud. Don't leave them alone in any car, hot or not and never leave them with the engine running.

Here's to a good summer where no children or pets die because of carelessness.

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
37. Brachycephalic breeds are especially prone to heat stroke due to their shortened snouts.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 11:49 AM
Jul 2012

Be extra cautious with these cuties.

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