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Requests for investigation. Trump aide Sebastian Gorka member of a Nazi party. (Original Post)
L. Coyote
Mar 2017
OP
Can the administration actually even get any better even if we got him to go?
Jonny Appleseed
Mar 2017
#4
Rationalizing racism follows a formula, define "others" as an outgroup and get rid of them.
L. Coyote
Mar 2017
#10
dalton99a
(81,637 posts)1. Gorka should be fired and prosecuted for lying.
triron
(22,026 posts)2. How much more shit is still out there?
Hope Maddow covers this Monday.
ornotna
(10,807 posts)3. That last pic is great
Made me laugh. For a moment. Then reality set in.
wonderfully funny, horrible, dark satire.
Jonny Appleseed
(960 posts)4. Can the administration actually even get any better even if we got him to go?
Might as well have a few actual Nazis in there as a reminder for 2018.
democrank
(11,112 posts)5. Heard him a few weeks ago, perhaps on CNN
He seriously scared me.
pat_k
(9,313 posts)7. FP article is worth reading
Where the hell does DT dig up these people?
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/17/dr-sebastian-gorka-may-be-a-far-right-nativist-but-for-sure-hes-a-terrible-scholar-trump-radical-islam/
Gorkas discussion of Islam and democracy {in his disseration} is sourced pretty much exclusively to Louis Milliots 1953 book, Introduction a létude du Droit Musulman a scholarly, but dated, work by a French academic born in Algeria during the colonial period... Gorka also cites conversations with leading Hungarian Arabist Miklós Maróth. Maroth is a Hungarian academic and government advisor who has argued that European Muslims should be stripped of their citizenship and that Muslims who fail to assimilate should be wrapped in pig skin. From these two sources, Gorka confidently asserts that:
It follows, argues Gorka, that our version of democracy cannot be sustained in a Muslim context, for if there is no free will, if the world and the future are predetermined, then the peoples choice as prerequisite is irrelevant. Gorka shows no interest in the varied and careful literature on the subject of, or related to, democracy, Islam, and the Middle East nor concern about generalizing a large and diverse community of believers with different theological and pragmatic religious commitments. He also fails to explain how, if doctrines of predestination frustrate democracy, Europes Calvinist republics ever got their act together. One also has to wonder, as a Middle East expert commented to me, how Islam is now the majority religion of countries from Morocco to Pakistan if the concept of converting the unbeliever has little importance in its theology.
Gorkas ridiculous understanding of Islam is only one part of a pattern of consistent carelessness and narrowness that runs through his dissertation....
Without over-exaggeration it must here be noted that the two starting points are very different. For the Muslim understanding of law and political order the bedrock is faith and more specifically the will of Allah. Subsequently human action primarily depends upon God and only secondarily upon the human himself. As a faith-system Islam believes completely in the concept of predestination. All is determined by God and as a result there is no room for free-will. As a result the status of unbelievers is very different from that say of the Christian faith. For the Muslim, the concept of converting the unbeliever has little importance since the separation of believers from non-believers has been determined already by the Creator.
It follows, argues Gorka, that our version of democracy cannot be sustained in a Muslim context, for if there is no free will, if the world and the future are predetermined, then the peoples choice as prerequisite is irrelevant. Gorka shows no interest in the varied and careful literature on the subject of, or related to, democracy, Islam, and the Middle East nor concern about generalizing a large and diverse community of believers with different theological and pragmatic religious commitments. He also fails to explain how, if doctrines of predestination frustrate democracy, Europes Calvinist republics ever got their act together. One also has to wonder, as a Middle East expert commented to me, how Islam is now the majority religion of countries from Morocco to Pakistan if the concept of converting the unbeliever has little importance in its theology.
Gorkas ridiculous understanding of Islam is only one part of a pattern of consistent carelessness and narrowness that runs through his dissertation....
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)10. Rationalizing racism follows a formula, define "others" as an outgroup and get rid of them.
This happened in Spain with both Muslims and Jews, and then the dominant Christian mentality led to 60,000,000 dead Americans.
Squinch
(51,054 posts)8. What takes these guys so long? How long have we known this about this guy? 4 months? 6?
And they're just catching on to him now.
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)9. Looks the part.
Right out of central casting.