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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:16 AM Mar 2017

What are we to make of James Comey?

He undermined Hillary Clinton and now he's undermining Donald Trump. The latter deserves to be undermined, but it is interesting he has undermined both of them.

If I was wearing my favorite hat, the partisan one, I would dismiss him as a purely partisan hack and a GOP dupe, but if he was he wouldn't have called the Republican president a liar in front of the whole world and said he and his associates are being investigated for collaborating with the Russians.

Maybe this is his way of atoning for inadvertently paving the way for Trump to become president.

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What are we to make of James Comey? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 OP
A great man and hero of the American people Renew Deal Mar 2017 #1
His testimony yesterday was devastating to Trump. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #3
I know Renew Deal Mar 2017 #8
Still don't trust him. Catherine Vincent Mar 2017 #2
This....until he proves it, not buying it...we'll see sunonmars Mar 2017 #10
I got a feeling, that this dog and pony show ghostsinthemachine Mar 2017 #4
He said Trump and his associates are being investigated for collaborating with Russia. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #5
I agree yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #6
The vulnerabilities Comey accused Hillary committing were actually committed by Trump. gordianot Mar 2017 #7
Louise Mensch has one possible explanation here: Lucinda Mar 2017 #9
Not sure if Mensch is credible. kstewart33 Mar 2017 #14
I'd suggest an umbrella stand . . . hatrack Mar 2017 #11
Comey is pond scum Gothmog Mar 2017 #12
I'm telling you, he's like Ben Affleck in Gone Girl. nt Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2017 #13

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)
8. I know
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 09:23 AM
Mar 2017

Comey is not good or bad based on his last action. I think he's trying to manage the universe around him. I just wonder if he was lied to in October by the guy Flynn paid off.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
4. I got a feeling, that this dog and pony show
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:27 AM
Mar 2017

Was about him saying, and soon, "nothing to see here", in regards to Russia. After his campaign shenanigans, you really can't think any other way. He is Trump's guy through and through and this is all political theater.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. He said Trump and his associates are being investigated for collaborating with Russia.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:32 AM
Mar 2017

He said Trump and his associates are being investigated for collaborating with Russia and refused to say much else. By doing that he has left it to our fertile imagination to divine what that collaboration was.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
6. I agree
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:35 AM
Mar 2017

I remember the repugs of their hope up with comey. Lol. They were pissed when he came back with nothing to see here in march or whenever it was. I hope the same doesn't happen to us but I feel it may. Comey is a guy not to be trusted.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
7. The vulnerabilities Comey accused Hillary committing were actually committed by Trump.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:48 AM
Mar 2017

Trump and his Russian entanglements are decades old and should be no suprise.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
9. Louise Mensch has one possible explanation here:
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 09:41 AM
Mar 2017
https://patribotics.blog/2017/01/17/dear-mr-putin-lets-play-chess-louise-mensch-trump-russia/

It's long and worth the time to read, but she basically outlines the explanation that Comey was scrambling to protect his investigation into Trump and was working against a corrupt section of the NY field office and Guiliani when he wrote the letter to congress which was then leaked.


"...Furthermore, although Comey is a natural Republican he appeared to have played it straight. In the summer he cleared Clinton of a criminal standard of negligence. In the fall, he had been sandbagged by Russian moles inside the FBI Field Office in New York. But I do not believe Mr. Comey surrendered wrongly to ‘pressure’. He knew the moles had effective kompromat – the emails your hacker Nikulin planted or woke – and that were he not to revise his testimony in the light of new evidence, his far more important natsec investigation into the traitor, Donald Trump, would be discredited. He then worked around the clock to clear Mrs. Clinton.

All evidence shows that James Comey is pursuing your assault on America, Mr. Putin, with the fearless I expect from a counter-intelligence patriot. In June, he named Donald Trump to a FISA court as an agent of Russian influence. In July, he did the same. Both times, the court turned him down. In April, Mr. Comey received audio of Russian money financing Trump – that’s the same time that Paul Manafort joined the campaign to run it. He formed a joint CIA/FBI /Treasury task force to look at the money.

Over the summer, US counter-intelligence met with Chris Steele because they had already got their own independent information that he was correct. On October 5th, your hacker Nikulin was picked up on an FBI ‘Red Warrant’ in Prague which means Director Comey had put a top priority on getting him some time before. Armed with whatever Nikulin spilled – and, Mr. Putin, he fainted when they caught him – Director Comey went back again, to a new FISA judge, on October 15, and he got his warrant.

Every indication is that Director Comey is not only independent but plays better chess than both you or I, Mr. Putin. (Can I call you VVP? I feel like I know you). For in September, the FBI did not join the ODNI statement about Russia’s intent being to aid Trump. Why not? Because while the NSA and CIA had heard the tapes of Americans in Trump’s camp working with your officials, taking your bribes, disseminating your information, Director Comey had not yet received his warrant. In order not to give Trump’s defense and the defense of his camps anything to go on, the FBI was Caesar’s wife. It did not act on surveillance of US persons abroad offered by the UK, Estonia, BIS, and Lithuania until it got the warrant. Director Comey does not want any ‘fruit of the poisoned tree’ defenses (no pun intended, Mr. Putin, and may I remind you sir that it is bad form to kill one’s opponents in chess. It’s cheating)..."


There is a lot more at the weblink...and her theory works pretty well in tandem with Comey's actions yesterday...but I do realize that not all of DU looks favorable on Mensch, and some have a lot of mistrust of the work she has been publishing in her efforts to connect the Trump and Putin dots...

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
14. Not sure if Mensch is credible.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 10:07 AM
Mar 2017

I get her posts on Twitter but am not sure about the credibility of her credentials. Still, worth reading.

I agree with her take about Comey. He's built a reputation over many years for playing things straight although he really blew it with Clinton. Key question is what he will do when Sessions interferes which Sessions will do because his recusal stops with any investigation about activities after November 8. And surely Comey's work will include post-November 8 investigations.

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