Why do conservatives sometimes hide their views to your face

[retrowire]

But then when around others they just spout em out?

The things you learn about people when they don't know you're listening LMAO

Example: talked to a co-worker about the state of affairs, openly gave my liberal view on it. They nodded and mostly confessed well "no politicians really give a shit" and then proceeded to mod and agree with everything I said.

Cut to the past two days, they talk with a co-worker who openly mocked me for being liberal and they themselves are ranting about immigrants, entitlements and the like.

Everyone seems to mock Trump here, but I think I'm in the company of anti Trump Republicans. Or at least Republicans who don't think he's that big of a deal.

[samnsara]

1. most conservayives...esp trumpers..spew it IN my face!...

...they act like they lost. Soon many if them will actually KNOW what they lost by voting for him.

[Orsino]

2. Because they are human.

It's not just conservatives who do this. Conservatism simply demands more of it.

[dchill]

3. Because they believe...

1.) You are a naive dilettante.
2.) Insincerety is a virtue.

[retrowire]

4. The one who said it to my face

Openly laughed and called me a millennial in a derogatory fashion. Mocked the Bernie bumper sticker on my car and all.

I reported him of course. HR had words with him of course.

But now he just openly mocked me and follows it with "oh, better not say that or you'll go to HR again hahaha"

I'm 29, been here for one year.

He's 60 been here for 25 years.

I am forced to take his shit, lol

[dchill]

10. He sounds like a very bitter and unhappy camper.

My three kids are millenials. They don't, and I don't consider it to be a derogatory label. It's just a description. Your "colleague" seems to suffer from a warped worldview and a stunted intellectual and emotional development.

I like to think that I have the quality of empathy, but folks like your "friend" actually make me feel mean and selfish, because I have no empathy for them. But, in the bigger picture, that's a side effect of living with people who claim "conservative values."

Anyway, I wish you luck.

[Saboburns]

13. As a Liberal you should be loud and proud.

Like me. When the ignorant accuse you of being a Liberal always agree with them. Loudly. They think you will shy away from being called a Liberal.

They say 'Liberal' (libtard, libbies, etc.) Just like Nazi's said 'Jew'.

I say, "You're goddamned right I am a Liberal". And I tell them why I am. Nothing finer in this world than being a Liberal. Nothing.

I notice when I tell the WingNuts how happy I am to be called a Liberal, they hush up, scratch their heads, and go off to to their internet sites to be told what to think again.

BE A LOUD AND PROUD LIBERAL.

[narnian60]

26. +100

[Kittycow]

28. Thanks for the encouraging words!

My husband and I were conservative until Palin spoke at the RNC. Her meaness and snide remarks inspired me to start reading Mudflats and Immoral Minority blogs; then I branched out to DU and Kos. We changed to Democratic party and never looked back.

Now we have minor political discussions each day. Minor because major discussions make our heads explode and we start ranting which is not good for our mental health.

My trump voting family is strangely silent these days. The last thing my mother said was that she respects the office, not the man. Guess that's all she had lol.

ETA : we never paid attention to politics until Palin came along. Now I see lots of other people who never paid attention becoming very interested because of trumps election. Those are the people we have to reach for 2018.

[HughBeaumont]

30. That sorry shitsack voted for High Treason Reagan, Bankruptin' Bewsh and Demented Donny . . .

. . . yet somehow YOU'RE the bad person here?

[retrowire]

31. Well I'm a stupid millennial sooooooo

That's his reasoning anyways. I'm a greenhorn! Wet behind the ears! XD

[HughBeaumont]

32. Said the older generation about every younger generation EVER . . .

. . . well, I'm not going to say it anymore.

Having a millennial son, I completely empathize with the steep mountain he and the rest of his age group have to climb.

[retrowire]

34. And here's wishing I come across more like you

I'd shake your hand if possible.

[rgbecker]

5. Truth is, they have a lot to hide.

Who wants to go around claiming they are bigots, racists who hate poor people and every one else? It's surprising to me there are any that would admit to anyone they support Trump or his ideals.

I have to say, listening to budget guy, Mulvaney, made me wonder if we are actually at the end of any hope of decency in politics in America. Trump is apparently just the tip of the iceberg of a clump of really awful snakes.

[LaydeeBug]

6. tell them to get off the GOVERNMENT SUBSIDY of an FHA loan. nt

[Cosmocat]

7. There are different types of people/conservatives

as some have noted, some truly feel righteous and view liberals as scum of the earth and simply are above us.

others know that what they believe is either not generally accepted or even runs country to actual reality, and are meeker about talking about it.

Past that, most are generally really decent people and know how toxic discussions/interactions and relationships would be to honestly say what they believe.

My inlaws are really good people, but rural conservatives. They know my politics and I know theirs, and we literally never talk politics out of respect for one another. They accept me and have treated me very well, and I accept them for who they are. Our marriage and their grandchildren rise about it all.

Side note - only time we had a political discussion was after Newtown. They were REALLY agitated because they were dead sure that BHO and the dems were going to come for their guns. The next time we came up to visit after it they started talking to me about it, like I was on team liberal and had some kind of inside knowledge. I told them what I told everyone, even my liberal friends- NOTHING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

But, they believed what they believed. Next time up they had all brought their newly purchased assault rifles to show each other. We don't own any guns, and I doubt we every will, but I have fired guns before, like it (I am a guy, after all) and in fact am a pretty good shot (steady hands). So, I went out to fire them with them.

End of the day, we have to live with each other.

[mr_lebowski]

40. You could practically BE me ... trippy ... (n/t)

[NewJeffCT]

8. Because conservative policies aren't popular to most people

Mitt Romney ran hard to the right to win the Republican primaries in 2012. Before the first debate, he was fading in the polls with some having him down almost double digits, or just over double digits. However, at that first debate he raced back to the center because he knew that the hard right policies from the primaries wouldn't sell for the general election - and he jumped in the polls. Romney won the first debate because Obama wasn't prepared for moderate Mitt, he was prepared for primary Mitt.

[FSogol]

9. Matt Groening once had a cartoon of things Republicans say when only Republicans are listening.

It was full of: "Haven't white people suffered enough."

[Johonny]

20. When you're white and you're around only other whites

its amazing the things that suddenly drop from other peoples mouths.

[FSogol]

11. These folks attempted to explain conservatives:

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises
in moral philosophy: that is the search for a superior moral
justification for selfishness."
- John Kenneth Galbraith
economist and author

...the differences between the conservative and the radical seem to
spring mainly from their attitude toward the future. Fear of the
future causes us to lean against and cling to the present, while faith
in the future renders us receptive to change. "
- Eric Hoffer

> "When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong you
cannot be too conservative. "
- Martin Luther King

"All conservatives are such from personal defects. They have been
effeminated by position or nature, born halt and blind, through luxury
of their parents, and can only, like invalids, act on the defensive."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

"Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence; Conservatism
is distrust of the people tempered by fear."
-William E. Gladstone

"A conservative is one who admires radicals centuries after they're
dead."
-Leo C. Rosten

[Kittycow]

36. Wow, so this really goes back in time.

I really didn't know that!

[Rhiannon12866]

12. They don't want to be perceived as the bigots they are

So they're the most comfortable expressing their views in the company of those they know hold the same prejudices.

[MrScorpio]

14. Wingers are hypocrites, cowards and bullies

That's how they roll.

[Amishman]

15. Not sure why, but it's definitely a thing

I swear for every hardcore conservative in the open, there are two in the closet

[Demsrule86]

17. Oh really...

That is why they lost the popular vote after getting the rust belt to vote for them by lying...no...there is no conservative majority. Why would you post about a secret conservative silent majority on DU? It is not true and those who think so are bound to be disappointed. Hrumpie Drumpie will have a great fall (2017,2018,2020)and all the Bannons, McConnells, Ryans and Pauls won't put the orange gasbag back together again and he take the conservatives/Republicans with him.

[Amishman]

18. Relax

I'm not saying there is a conservative majority. I never said majority, your word - not mine.

I'm saying more conservatives are really a lot farther right then they let on and that you cannot judge a group or individual by what they say because many (particularly on the right) downplay or hide their true opinion

[Demsrule86]

16. I never discuss politics at work.

[mr_lebowski]

41. I'm lucky insofar as there's only EVER been one loudmouth conservative-type at our company ...

At any one time. Up until 8 months ago when basically all my liberal friends got laid off (not related to politics) there was a gang of 4-5 of us hard-core lefties, we all hung together, and everyone else there (including ownership) is at least reasonable in their views even if some called themselves 'libertarian', they are truly intelligent libertarians who realize things like 'we actually do need the FDA/EPA' and 'Dodd-Frank' and 'lets not let crazy people get guns' and things of that nature.

This is a small programming shop in Phoenix, AZ (about 20 of us in the company) ... Prior to layoffs I'd say overall our office is quite possibly the highest per-capita concentration of liberal-leaning people for many, many miles around. One of my fellow hardcore lib programmers (that actually quit before the layoffs) has decided he hates his co-workers and the HR dept at his new 'much more corporate' job and is coming back to work with us again in 2 weeks so that'll be nice.

[Demsrule86]

42. Nice to have like minded colleagues.

Sounds like a fun job. I love programming and used to write software programs to work with our accounting programs to run forcasting programs or financial ratios...I also kept the hackers out which actually meant learning how to hack myself so I could see how they do it...fun job. This was my favorite job...I lived in Georgia...so most were righties...but we had a couple I could talk privately with. Since we have been in Ohio...I help people with their computers or write excel VBA for websites as this areas pays for shit.

[sl8]

19. Have you shared this observation with the conservatives in question? n/t

[retrowire]

21. I like my job. Nt

[sl8]

22. Fair enough.

Maybe they like their jobs, as well?

[retrowire]

23. Well as I said above

I've reported one guy to HR, he's got 25 yrs here and now he just mocks me and follows it with "oops I shouldn't say that or you'll go to HR again"

[sl8]

24. Right. So you've answered your original question, yes? n/t

[retrowire]

25. What, why do they hide their views?

I guess.

[Demsrule86]

44. In Georgia, you could lose your job if they knew you were progressive.

My hubs is an engineer and at the time was a moderate GOP . Ours was a mixed marriage until he saw the light in 08 and voted for Obama...he had voted for Clinton in 92 at my urging. If his job found out I was a Democrat, they would have transferred him out or fired him. Our kids would have been shunned ...yes it really is that bad. Being a Dem in a red state is tricky. I called people mostly in other states. My Mom donated in our name as I sent her the money...remember donor lists are public. At first it wasn't too bad but the year Roy Barnes lost...all Dems lost in the state mostly...except for urban areas...and that was that...the state is now a cesspool. My sis lives there and GOP governors have all but destroyed it.

[Orrex]

27. That's not the case where I live

Conservatives assume that everyone is a diehard fan of Fox News and the like, and everyone is equally assumed to follow the same bullshit faux-Christian dogma cynically preached by Republicans (i.e., claim to love Jesus while hating the poor, the sick, the elderly and brown people).

Perhaps it's a a function of the broader geography, but I've lived in east, center & western Pennsylvania, and Conservatives have always been unapologetically vocal in their bigotry and intolerance, all while decrying the persecution that they suffer in this Godless secular nation of Libtard snowflakes.

[retrowire]

29. "godless secular nation of libtard snowflakes"

Creative writing award of the day goes to!! LMAO

[Orrex]

33. LOL. It's easy when you're just writing from life!

[retrowire]

35. XD nt

[ymetca]

37. It's all the pharmaceuticals they take

gobs and gobs of doctor-prescribed mind-altering substances to treat their anxieties over having cushy jobs that they keep away from the rest of us liberals/gays/minorities/atheists, etc.

They're all in that secret handshake "club" of sucking at the teet of Government while praising Jesus and whispering to each other about "those people" they think are "stealing our country away".

They all suffer from the disease that there isn't enough to go around, so "I got mine and you can go fuck yourself" is the norm.

All card-carrying members of the hypocrites' circle of hell.

Well, that's my take anyway, having lived among them my whole life.

[kcr]

38. Yep. This type is common. They're cowards who aren't brave enough to stand up for their convictions.

If they're members of message boards, I bet they're the pains in the asses who are always whining about it's never safe to say anything because people are so sensitive and they're so persecuted. Their true colors come out in anonymity.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

39. Don't know about people specifically

but Republican politicians often hide their extreme views during the election in some areas to get elected but then crank up the extremism

[Adrahil]

43. I'll tell you this...

The whole Trump phenomenon has ripped the mask off of many people I did not know were bascially Nazis. I've lost a couple friends.

[retrowire]

45. Guess it's a good thing I lost my friends 5 years ago

I have found myself wondering where they found themselves politically in this chapter of our lives.

And then I think, I should be grateful to not find out.