Perhaps there's a REASON Gorsuch hearing is same time as Trump/Russia Collusion hearings

[CousinIT]

When Gorsuch is confirmed - Trump is SAFE. Gorsuch is his "Get Out Of Jail Free" card

If confirmed, he WILL be. No doubt about that.

Maybe the two are not really related but fact remains Gorsuch will be SHitler's protection in most matters.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. How is Gorsuch going to save him if he committed treason or espionage?

[pangaia]

2. No doubt it was planned that way..

This has been a 60 day blitzkrieg !!


They attack from all sides at once....

[jmg257]

3. How would Gorsuch save him? He is going to the USSC, not the Senate.

[MineralMan]

4. The Gorsuch hearings continue.

However, Trump's fate is not in the hands of the SCOTUS, really. They can neither remove him nor protect him from being impeached and removed. They play no role in that. So, he won't be Trump's savior.

[CousinIT]

5. What I don't like is that these confirmation hearings are even happening.

1. The legitimacy of POTUS is largely still in question at this point, so ALL nominations and hearings should be put on hold until we "know what's going on"
2. If Merrick Garland didn't deserve a hearing, how/why does Gorsuch? There is no law, rule, constitutional article - anything whatsoever that justifies or codifies this.

They should stopped. Now.

And yea you're likely correct that Gorsuch won't be able to save Trump's treasonous ass. Different branches of gov't.

It's so wrong somehow to have these hearings going on at the same time.

[MineralMan]

6. Here's the thing: As long as Trump is President, he continues

to exercise the powers of that office, including making appointments. Nobody can sideline those, and the Republicans don't want to. Since they have majority control of both houses of Congress, they will continue to do what they do. They like Gorsuch, so they're pushing forward with the confirmation hearings.

What seems obvious to us is irrelevant, really, in how things actually operate.

We can be angry, disbelieving and adamant, but it doesn't really matter. We lost the election in 2016, not only for President, but for control of the Senate. We are seeing the consequences of that, and there's not really a damned thing we can do about it now. Plenty of people, including myself, warned about the risks of handing over control of all three branches of government to the Republicans. We went ahead and allowed it to happen anyhow.

Whether the election was manipulated or not, we could have won with a larger turnout of Democratic voters, but we didn't get that. I blame myself, as well. I believe there was no chance for Trump to win and did not work as hard as I could have. That was true of many of us who are active in GOTV efforts. We freaking blew it.

We need to focus on 2018 and on forcing Trump to resign from the Presidency. We will still end up with Pence, though. There is no good solution to all of this until 2018, and we sure as hell had better fix things in that election or we may never get another chance.

[CousinIT]

8. You're right. Of course.

On to 2018 then.

[KingCharlemagne]

14. Senate Dems can and should filibuster Gorsuch's nomination, imo. I will

be calling DiFi's and Kamala's office to that effect today, right after I call my rep Maxine Waters to thank her for her strong statement yesterday in favor of an independent commission to investigate RussiaGate.

[yeoman6987]

15. They'll just use nuclear option

[KingCharlemagne]

16. Not so sure about that. Dems need only pick off 3 moderate Repubs in Senate and any

Senate 'rule change' (as elimination of the filibuster would be) is a non-starter until the seating of the next Senate in Jan. 2019.

[malaise]

10. +1,000

Truth is Dems should have said Garland hearings or no hearings

[WillowTree]

12. Ain't no way to enforce such a thing when the Republicans have the majority in the Senate.

[hlthe2b]

7. Maybe, but it is hard for me to think that a highly intelligent person (and he is)

living for years in ultra-progressive Boulder, CO could be so unaffected by his environment, his neighbors, his state's direction on issues.

For me, the biggest issue is he should not even be given a hearing, sans a hearing for Garland. This is SC theft and it sets a dangerous precedent.

[CousinIT]

9. Yea the Garland thing really hacks me off. I think a new law is needed about that.

Any USSC nominee must have a hearing within 6 months or some such. After this dirty trickery, it's warranted.

Not sure why Dems felt it necessary to participate in his hearings. Because it's unfair and lacks principle considering what was done to Garland. And it won't make any difference anyway. The John Bircher American ISIS asshole will be confirmed anyway. Why bother?

[MineralMan]

11. That is NOT how it works.

The Congress decides such things, and the Congress has a majority in both houses of Republicans. Since we failed to regain control of at least one house of Congress in the 2016 election, and lost the presidential election, this is the result.

Yes, Garland should have had a hearing. He did not. He is no longer under consideration. If you want someone to blame, blame ourselves, the Democrats. We're the ones who did not win. We're now paying the price for that, as many, many people predicted could happen.

We can yell and shout and protest, but we have an elected Republican President and a Congress controlled by Republicans. Ask yourself how we could have let that happen. Your answer lies there.

Gorsuch will almost certainly be confirmed. He has the votes in the Senate. We might delay that process for a while, but we cannot prevent it. It is down to us for losing in 2016. That is the bottom line.

Here's my suggestion: Let's not repeat 2016 in 2018, OK? Let's not let petty differences among Democrats keep us from winning. We tried that, and now we have the results we have.

[hlthe2b]

13. You are being quite condescending to your fellow DUers--all who know full well "how it works"

That does not mean it is not deserving of discussion. Nor does it mean that Dems HAVE to acquiesce. REPUGs certainly would not.