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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 11:17 AM Mar 2017

Senate Democrats: No SCOTUS Pick for a President Under Investigation

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senate-democrats-a-president-under-investigation-should_us_58d056c9e4b0e0d348b346e4


Senate Democrats: No SCOTUS Pick for a President Under Investigation
03/20/2017 07:29 pm ET

Neil Gorsuch is the nominee of a President whose legitimacy is in question.


Originally published as “An Open Letter to Senate Democrats” on 02/26/17, now updated given FBI Director James Comey’s testimony on 03/20/17.

Dear Senate Democrats,

Millions of Americans already believe that the sitting President of the United States colluded with a foreign power to commit espionage, with a goal of producing damning information on his opponent that would sway the election in his favor.

Given this context, James Comey’s revelation on March 20th before the House Intelligence Committee was seismic: the FBI Director admitted that his agency is investigating ties between the sitting President’s campaign and Russian interference in the 2016 election.

The American people demand the following:

A formal, independent investigation into the Russian hacking of the election, including all of the former and ongoing personal, financial and political ties between Trump’s team and Russia.

The release of the ten most recent years of Donald Trump’s tax returns, so that the American people can know the extent to which the President and his family are beholden to foreign governments – especially Russia. Unearthing tax returns provides context for further investigation into whether and how the President is in violation of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution. Millions believe, are equally appalled and deeply concerned that the President and his family are profiting off of the office and accepting gifts from foreign governments that may prompt decision-making that is not in the best interests of the American people.


These are completely legitimate demands that have the best interests of the American public at heart. We want neither a conspirator in the Oval Office, nor an avalanche of conspiracy theories that undermine trust in American democratic institutions. We need cold, hard facts and a fair, legal, non-partisan process for investigation.

Meanwhile, as you know, a Supreme Court seat sits vacant. Hearings are underway for the nominee of a potentially illegitimate President. To our demands above, we add the following:

Senate Democrats must filibuster the confirmation process for Judge Neil Gorsuch and explicitly connect that filibuster directly to our two demands above.


Basing a filibuster on retribution over Senate Republicans’ obstruction of Merrick Garland’s nomination or on Gorsuch’s conservative stances on key issues is moot at this point. The nominating of a Supreme Court Justice is one of the most critical roles of a President. There are too many questions hanging around this presidency to hand over this honor, which can impact the Court for decades, without more scrutiny. The identity of the nominee is entirely beside the point; the filibuster must be linked to the nominator himself. This President – whose very legitimacy is being called into question through his campaign’s potential involvement in Russian subterfuge of our election – should not be allowed to have a nominee confirmed through to the Court or even considered until all questions are resolved.

If the Trump Administration has nothing to hide, then the investigation may take some time, but should be fairly painless. Let’s test that hypothesis. Apply the pressure and use what leverage you have, Senators. Make a McConnell SCOTUS filibuster override synonymous with protecting Donald Trump from meaningful investigation, and we’ll see how that goes for the Republicans.
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Senate Democrats: No SCOTUS Pick for a President Under Investigation (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2017 OP
YES. 100% THIS. nt Maven Mar 2017 #1
+10,000 world wide wally Mar 2017 #4
+100,000 ... And, here is the meme we've all been waiting for: L. Coyote Mar 2017 #53
+ 100,000 Achilleaze Mar 2017 #14
German Chancellor Angela Merkel warned him wallyworld2 Mar 2017 #17
My signature on this letter woud make John Hancock jealous! lastlib Mar 2017 #41
Finally! Good move! Frustratedlady Mar 2017 #2
Excellent messaging gratuitous Mar 2017 #3
No, no they can't mdbl Mar 2017 #48
Neil Gorsuch is an BlueMTexpat Mar 2017 #5
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2017 #6
This is a good start ... N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2017 #7
the president is under FBI investigation....assume all of his moves are in question. spanone Mar 2017 #8
K&R... spanone Mar 2017 #9
I've always thought Obamas choice should remain as first in line for, interview & yes or no vote. Sunlei Mar 2017 #10
+1 Lucinda Mar 2017 #32
Yes.... berksdem Mar 2017 #11
Excellent news! Duppers Mar 2017 #12
Putin is running our state department, do we want him picking our SCJs, too? Cosmocat Mar 2017 #13
stolen seat NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #15
ROFLMAO Dems NAILED It! bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #16
trumps pick or putins....no consideration til we know dembotoz Mar 2017 #18
We should actually use that phrase henceforth. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #29
And Putin's healthcare bill! lastlib Mar 2017 #42
Ooooo, I like this. Drahthaardogs Mar 2017 #19
All of his cabinet picks should also be They_Live Mar 2017 #20
kick Hekate Mar 2017 #21
1000%! SCOTUS only after complete FBI investigation including release of 10 years of tax returns stuffmatters Mar 2017 #22
Frame it so that even the Trump morons understand it: Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #30
Can't trust any of his appointments Bradical79 Mar 2017 #23
unfortunately, this is a letter TO our Senate Democrats, not from them. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #24
It's a letter from millions of us Ds Sunlei Mar 2017 #34
I agree. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #38
And now, the ball is in the Senate Democrats' hands Mr. Ected Mar 2017 #25
Excellent gopiscrap Mar 2017 #26
They already NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #27
Big time K&R! McCamy Taylor Mar 2017 #28
The only candidate that Dems should allow on the SCOTUS is Merrick Garland. roamer65 Mar 2017 #31
Must not confirm zentrum Mar 2017 #33
K&R! myrna minx Mar 2017 #35
K&R +200% benld74 Mar 2017 #36
Warren is all over this. Takket Mar 2017 #37
Hey--THIS could be the LAST YEAR of TrumPutin's presiduncy.... lastlib Mar 2017 #43
We're calling for a TOTAL &COMPLETE SHUTDOWN of the WH until we figure out WHAT THE HELL is going on Cha Mar 2017 #39
who wrote this? mopinko Mar 2017 #40
Absolutely. Just once hold him accountable for something Alice11111 Mar 2017 #44
Kick. dalton99a Mar 2017 #45
Anyone know if that has actually made the rounds of senate Dems? Amaryllis Mar 2017 #46
K&R yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2017 #47
Kickin' this for the A.M. crew. VOX Mar 2017 #49
Yes! Nitram Mar 2017 #50
💯 KeepItReal Mar 2017 #51
Stop the Authoritarian Oligarchs! harun Mar 2017 #52

lastlib

(23,236 posts)
41. My signature on this letter woud make John Hancock jealous!
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 10:17 PM
Mar 2017

INSANELY jealous! I want this nomination/abomination BEATEN down! And I want the illegitimate presidunce who offered it BEATEN down! Viciously and Thoroughly!

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
2. Finally! Good move!
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 11:46 AM
Mar 2017

That makes more sense than McConnell/Grassley's claim that Obama couldn't name a nominee in an election year.

How does that nasty medicine taste on the rebound?

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
48. No, no they can't
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:32 AM
Mar 2017

I'm sorry but nothing will ever get through their thick heads unless it's told to them by Fux Nooze or Mush Lumpballs.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
5. Neil Gorsuch is an
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:25 PM
Mar 2017

illegitimate nominee by any definition, IMO.

The investigation of Trump should be the final the nail in the coffin for him.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,725 posts)
7. This is a good start ...
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:44 PM
Mar 2017

but I think all of his actions should be placed on hold.

How can we ever be sure of any decision he makes until this situation is resolved.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
10. I've always thought Obamas choice should remain as first in line for, interview & yes or no vote.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:52 PM
Mar 2017

Republicans IGNORED Obamas choice for almost a fucking year.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
12. Excellent news!
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:56 PM
Mar 2017

Was getting depressed with the no-news reactions to yesterday's revelations which I thought should be headline news everywhere today. Everywhere.

But now this...this has made my day. Thank You for posting it.


Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
13. Putin is running our state department, do we want him picking our SCJs, too?
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:57 PM
Mar 2017

You know god darned well if the tables were turned that would be what every last one of them would be screaming.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
29. We should actually use that phrase henceforth.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 07:46 PM
Mar 2017

"Senate Democrats are planning to filibuster Putin's Supreme Court Nominee, Neil Gorsuch ..."

And keep using it.

lastlib

(23,236 posts)
42. And Putin's healthcare bill!
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 10:21 PM
Mar 2017

Putin's Wall

Think I'll start calling someone "tRumPutin".......(kinda like Ras-putin, only nastier and more evil.)

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
19. Ooooo, I like this.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 01:57 PM
Mar 2017

Well done. It kind of paints MC Cain into a corner too. How can we trust this is not another Russian plant?

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
30. Frame it so that even the Trump morons understand it:
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 07:48 PM
Mar 2017

"Senate Democrats are planning to filibuster Putin's Supreme Court Nominee, Neil Gorsuch ..."

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
23. Can't trust any of his appointments
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 06:35 PM
Mar 2017

It goes far beyond payback for Republicans' disgraceful behaviour with regard to President Obama's nominee. If this were Bush or some other Republican I'd be open to some pragmatic give and take if it nade political sense. Having a likely traitor in the White House though just makes it too dangerous to give an inch on such an important LIFETIME position. Can't pressure a Supreme Court judge out of his position the same way you can one of his cabinet members.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
24. unfortunately, this is a letter TO our Senate Democrats, not from them.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 06:37 PM
Mar 2017

One hopes they show this level of determination.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
38. I agree.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 09:35 PM
Mar 2017

Unfortunately, the wording of the OP makes it sound like they themselves have drawn this line in the sand. One hopes they do.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
25. And now, the ball is in the Senate Democrats' hands
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 07:04 PM
Mar 2017

I'm damned proud of Senator Franken right now. Can he organize dissent a la the above beautifully-crafted letter above?

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
27. They already
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 07:32 PM
Mar 2017

have given more than the Putin Publicans; by giving Gorsuch a hearing. More than Garland got.

Takket

(21,568 posts)
37. Warren is all over this.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 09:03 PM
Mar 2017
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/03/21/elizabeth-warren-calls-postponement-gorsuch-hearing-fbi-investigation.html

If the GOP can make shit up about "the last year of a presidency" then certainly we should be wise enough not to seat someone for a lifetime who's appointer in under investigation for espionage.

lastlib

(23,236 posts)
43. Hey--THIS could be the LAST YEAR of TrumPutin's presiduncy....
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 10:23 PM
Mar 2017

Shouldn't we hold off confirming his SCt nomination until the American people have a say?

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