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struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 11:39 AM Mar 2017

'Like a coup', says Robert Reich

Rachael Revesz 36 mins ago

Robert Reich ... was quick to react ...

“Ivanka into the White House? It’s like a coup, and the dictator’s family is moving into the palace as it prepares to the loot the country” ...

"Doesn’t the Trump administration have enough ethics problems? Aren’t there already enough conflicts of interest to sink a ship?" he wrote.

Ms Trump’s lawyer, Jamie Gorelick, told Politico that the 35-year-old will be given government communication devices and will be provided classified security clearance ...


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ivanka-trump-west-wing-office-white-house-coup-labor-secretary-robert-reich-bill-clinton-gerald-ford-a7641236.html

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'Like a coup', says Robert Reich (Original Post) struggle4progress Mar 2017 OP
There is nothing they wont do , absolutely no limit to the corruption. They control the Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #1
 Can Republicans Be Trusted to Oversee the FBI Investigation of Trumps Russia Ties? (article) wordpix Mar 2017 #37
Shit dhol82 Mar 2017 #2
Donald Trump is Forrest Gumption. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2017 #3
At least Chauncey Gardener was innocent when fools mistook him for a leader. nt tblue37 Mar 2017 #16
Forrest Trump... lame54 Mar 2017 #19
And the right wingnuts were crying about the Clinton Foundation ... and now ... crickets n/t SFnomad Mar 2017 #4
So were the left wingnuts, let us not forget. And now, crickets. I will not forget, nor forgive. nt Hekate Mar 2017 #33
I'm no lawyer but it looks illegal to me C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #5
I think they are hoping to get around the law by not paying her. mnhtnbb Mar 2017 #6
Everything except the paycheck. C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #7
The whole regime is mnhtnbb Mar 2017 #8
Grifters ... every last one of them n/t SFnomad Mar 2017 #9
these people heaven05 Mar 2017 #27
Jamie Gorelick is a top notch lawyer so I can't imagine that she hasn't Glimmer of Hope Mar 2017 #10
But is it ethical? nt EleanorR Mar 2017 #17
Oh I think it is shady as hell but most likely legal. Glimmer of Hope Mar 2017 #20
So why exactly does she need a classified security clearance? Grammy23 Mar 2017 #11
So, presidential offspring get security clearances just like that? Girard442 Mar 2017 #24
America's Borgias. liberalmuse Mar 2017 #12
Imagine if this were Chelsea Clinton. VOX Mar 2017 #13
I have a feeling this will be too much for even some Republicans. jalan48 Mar 2017 #14
I think some of them are tainted-- kompramat, bribes, Nunes on wordpix Mar 2017 #38
"Like"? nt tblue37 Mar 2017 #15
One has to wonder why she would even want this job. OldHippieChick Mar 2017 #18
I think you have it. She has influence with her dad and perhaps can real in the dangerous stuff LiberalArkie Mar 2017 #23
So she can pass on to Putin? kimbutgar Mar 2017 #21
How else will she share sensitive information with her BFF, Pootie's girlfriend? lark Mar 2017 #22
It's not LIKE a coup. volstork Mar 2017 #25
If it's "like a coup" then it's a coup ck4829 Mar 2017 #26
snip... CrispyQ Mar 2017 #28
And the FBI Corgigal Mar 2017 #29
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2017 #30
It's an attempt to establish Royalty, heirs to the Kingdom bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #31
When They Re-Write the 25th Amendment Ccarmona Mar 2017 #32
the White House needs another Narcissist in it lunatica Mar 2017 #34
Laws do not apply to dictators. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #35
A woman president at last! oldcynic Mar 2017 #36

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. There is nothing they wont do , absolutely no limit to the corruption. They control the
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 11:41 AM
Mar 2017

departments that would hold them accountable.

And the tparty and republican voters are cheering it on, Ryan and Trump and team will take their Soc Sec and Medicare, and they will cheer it on.

Watch

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
37.  Can Republicans Be Trusted to Oversee the FBI Investigation of Trumps Russia Ties? (article)
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 02:49 PM
Mar 2017
https://www.thenation.com/article/can-republicans-be-trusted-to-oversee-the-fbi-investigation-of-trumps-russia-ties/

 They once found the idea of a president under FBI investigation intolerable. But now most of the GOP is silent

By Joan Walsh Twitter

Just six months ago, Republicans found it unthinkable that a president might enter the White House under the cloud of an FBI investigation. “Can this country afford to have a president under investigation by the FBI?” Senator Marco Rubio, campaigning for Donald Trump, asked about Hillary Clinton in September. “Think of the trauma that would do to this country.” White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, then head of the Republican National Committee, took it further: “This alone should be disqualifying for anyone seeking the presidency, a job that is supposed to begin each morning with a top secret intelligence briefing.” Trump himself insisted Clinton’s FBI troubles should keep her from getting even “a low level security clearance.” House Speaker Paul Ryan went so far as to ask Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to halt the daily briefings Clinton received as a presidential nominee.

On Monday, FBI director James Comey confirmed that since July, his agency has been investigating alleged coordination between the Trump campaign and Russian officials in the hack and dissemination of Democratic Party campaign materials. The GOP response is predictably hypocritical and pathetic. Trump himself spent Monday morning preemptively rebutting Comey and insisting the “real story” is the “leaking of classified information.” In the House Intelligence Committee, GOP members heard their marching orders, and began pushing Comey to discuss leaks about his investigation rather than the spectacular news that he was confirming an investigation existed.

Benghazi-gate uber-prober Representative Trey Gowdy was particularly strident, blaming the leaks on former Obama administration intelligence officials. We should note that Gowdy’s infamous Benghazi committee didn’t just leak; it spewed damaging as well as false information about Clinton’s role in the 2012 Libya attack indiscriminately around the capitol. “One thing you and I agree on is the felonious dissemination of classified material most definitely is a crime,” Gowdy told Comey with a straight face, but the FBI director refused to even confirm that assertion. Maybe Comey is investigating Gowdy’s handling of classified information—who can say?

Committee chair Devin Nunes had already told Fox News Sunday that the leak of former Trump national security advisor Mike Flynn’s Russia conversations to the media is “the one crime we know that’s been committed.” On Monday, Nunes joined Gowdy in urging more attention to intelligence community leaks, but he also gave the day its headline, telling Comey: “There is a big, gray cloud that you’ve now put over people who have very important work to do to lead this country. And so the faster you can get to the bottom of this, it’s going to be better for all Americans.”

I’d quarrel with the first part of Nunes’s claim—it isn’t Comey but Trump campaign associates like former manager Paul Manafort, foreign policy advisor Carter Page and the awful Roger Stone, along with short term staffers like Flynn, who put the “cloud” over the Trump administration, by their own associations with Russia and/or their lies about them. I’d agree on the second part, though: the faster Comey can get to the bottom of Trump’s ties to Russia, the better for all Americans.

But what congressional leaders can we trust to make sure US intelligence agencies really do that—and will any of them include Republicans? Paul Ryan told reporters “I don’t think we learned anything new” from Comey on Monday. Really? Not only did the FBI director confirm the Trump-Russia investigation existed, he told the committee there was “no evidence” to prove Trump’s delusional Twitter claim that President Obama had put “tapps” on his phone at Trump Tower. You have to wonder what Ryan would consider “new.” I can tell you one thing: His standards for evidence and scandal will change if Trump can’t muscle through Ryan’s cruel Obamacare repeal bill and his Dickensian budget and tax cuts.

Right now Republicans like Ryan are cynically using Trump to enact an agenda so unpopular they cannot sell it on their own. Trump wooed the white, working-class voters Ryan and Mitt Romney repelled in 2012, with their elite brand of self-dealing country club politics. So Ryan needs him. But if Trump can’t work political magic around Ryan’s awful policy agenda, that could change.

We’re told to expect the Senate to do a better job probing the Trump-Russia links. And certainly Senators Lindsey Graham, Richard Burr and John McCain have sounded more exercised about the alleged intervention into the election than most GOP House members. But their concern is not shared throughout the caucus. Texas Senator John Cornyn told MSNBC’s Morning Joe on Tuesday morning that he’s not terribly concerned about Comey’s revelations. He thinks that when former director of national security James Clapper told a Sunday show “he saw no evidence of collusion” between Trump officials and Russia—that ought to have closed the case, even though the current FBI director has said under oath in a Congressional committee hearing that the investigation is still ongoing. That’s the kind of selective reasoning you’d expect from Trey Gowdy.

Meanwhile, Trump huddled with House Republicans Tuesday morning trying to sell Ryancare to its critics (he’s still not calling it “Trumpcare”). Ryan said Trump “knocked the cover off the ball,” sounding like a proud father, but other House reports were less kind. Trump took no questions, discussed no policy details and warned dissidents they would be “be ripe for a primary” if they didn’t back the bill. Since members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus are pretty well insulated from primary challenges—indeed, they’d be more likely primaried if they supported the bill—it’s not clear Trump’s intervention will pay off.

No one should want James Comey, or other intelligence agency leaders, to wield the power he currently does. His decision to publicly reveal in late October that the FBI was taking a new look at Clinton’s emails, after they were discovered on Anthony Weiner’s laptop, arguably threw the election to Trump. Ironically, that decision was said to be at least partly motivated by leaks from the right flank of the FBI to Rudy Giuliani and others about the “new” emails (they turned out, predictably, to be duplicates). Republicans were not at all concerned about intelligence agency leakers back then; they were outraged that a president might enter the White House under FBI scrutiny. Now they’ve opportunistically switched sides. With Democrats a minority in both houses, GOP leaders have effectively forfeited Congress’s ability to investigate and rein in the investigators. We’re at the mercy of leakers with an agenda. That’s no way to deal with allegations of foreign interference into American democracy, but it’s the way we’re stuck with until more Republicans find a conscience.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
3. Donald Trump is Forrest Gumption.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 11:44 AM
Mar 2017

A man who seemingly by happenstance wanders in places of great power, and then proceeds to audaciously milk his situation to his own benefit for all its worth without any regards to morals, ethics, values, norms or laws.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
33. So were the left wingnuts, let us not forget. And now, crickets. I will not forget, nor forgive. nt
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 02:19 PM
Mar 2017

mnhtnbb

(31,391 posts)
6. I think they are hoping to get around the law by not paying her.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:10 PM
Mar 2017

The article says she will not be paid.

And, presumably, the argument would be that she is therefor not employed and not subject to that particular
law preventing/restricting employment of relatives.

Obviously they are trying to skirt the intent of the law.

Maybe Kellyanne is tired of having all the office "wife" duties and Ivanka plans to step up and share.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
7. Everything except the paycheck.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:17 PM
Mar 2017

And none of the accountability.
Of course she's merchandising her privileged position and profiting. This is bullshit.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
11. So why exactly does she need a classified security clearance?
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:32 PM
Mar 2017

Something about this just doesn't feel or smell right. I said on another thread that tRump does whatever he wants to do and just waits out anyone who objects. He said some time ago that he had a job for Ivanka in the White House that was greeted with less than enthusiasm. So he let it drop for a while. And now it is just matter of factly announced she will have an office and a security clearance. He is just daring someone to challenge this appointment.

Girard442

(6,075 posts)
24. So, presidential offspring get security clearances just like that?
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 01:09 PM
Mar 2017

Oh hell, while we're having fun, let's make her one of the Joint Chiefs and give her the launch codes too.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
12. America's Borgias.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:35 PM
Mar 2017

Except Lucretia was an abused pawn. Not so sure about Ivanka not being complicit in the Orange Borgia's crimes.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
13. Imagine if this were Chelsea Clinton.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:37 PM
Mar 2017

Republicans would need trebuchets to fling their mountains of rage-poop. And impeachment proceedings would already be underway.

jalan48

(13,869 posts)
14. I have a feeling this will be too much for even some Republicans.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:39 PM
Mar 2017

Trump's like the kid who hates school so much he does everything he can to get kicked out.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
18. One has to wonder why she would even want this job.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:47 PM
Mar 2017

She already has influence w/out needing an office or security clearance. Daddy and Hubby undoubtedly tell her anything she wants to know. Do they need her close by to rein him in when he starts drooling? Are they really thinking it is "their" country now? Which is it? Or is it something other than a choice between greed and mental illness?

LiberalArkie

(15,716 posts)
23. I think you have it. She has influence with her dad and perhaps can real in the dangerous stuff
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 01:03 PM
Mar 2017

Trump hears from the others. I think it started as a game, but they now realize they are in a real life situation.

lark

(23,102 posts)
22. How else will she share sensitive information with her BFF, Pootie's girlfriend?
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 01:03 PM
Mar 2017

Sister girl wants her independence and information to collude with Russia all by herself without daddy's help.

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
28. snip...
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 01:27 PM
Mar 2017
Bernadette Meehan, a former Foreign Service Officer and former spokesperson for the Obama administration’s National Security Council, wrote on twitter: “I had a security clearance & West Wing office. @IvankaTrump diminishes the value of expertise & hard work it took me & others to get there.”

Shaun King, a senior justice writer and activist, simply called the news “disturbing”


Preparing us for her presidential run in four years, perhaps? They will tout how they are not misogynists, after all, see? Laugh, but they've given us Reagan, W & now Trump.

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
31. It's an attempt to establish Royalty, heirs to the Kingdom
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 02:03 PM
Mar 2017

Look for the dissolution of all to support the Trump claim to the throne

DJT sticks mostly, and who needs to repeat it, white men, but I think
mostly white central, eastern European descendant, like himself. One
doesn't hear the term much anymore - WASP.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
32. When They Re-Write the 25th Amendment
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 02:14 PM
Mar 2017

The coup will be complete.

The new Order of Succession:
Oldest Daughter
Dumb Ass Son #1
Dumb Ass Son #2
Baron
That other girl that hangs around.

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