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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBeen thinking about this article: HRC poisoned?
Eight months ago I would have dismissed it as a little off the wall. No longer, I don't. Not after seeing Diane Feinstein's face after she came out of the intelligence briefing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/09/12/the-man-who-discovered-cte-thinks-hillary-clinton-may-have-been-poisoned/?utm_term=.e1a952b43f43
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)There have been a number of mysterious poisonings among Putin's enemies, not to mention other "heart attack" deaths that could easily have been poisonings. Given what we know now, I wouldn't dismiss the possibility.
butdiduvote
(284 posts)...instead of giving the pneumonia story that only led more people to think she was hiding a serious health problem. I'm sure she got bloodwork done when she saw her doctor.
That said, nothing would surprise me these days. I just think this is the type of thing no one would have kept to themselves. It doesn't get much more serious than literally poisoning a candidate.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)A toxicology report when it happened? But I also remember a couple of her staffers had the same symptoms at the time...
mainer
(12,022 posts)So I doubt one was done. And which toxin would doctors screen for?
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)there. Apparently it took them forever to find out what the Russians poisoned that one "enemy."
butdiduvote
(284 posts)If one wasn't done, why would Feinstein know about the poisoning now?
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)I'm contemplating the possibility that the poisoning of Hillary is wrapped up with why Comey released the letter.
At this point I'm just pushing some jigsaw pieces around the board, trying to figure out what would turn them into a picture. Don't take what follows too seriously, it's just a bit of speculation using a few known facts.
My CT goes something like this:
A number of weeks later somebody from the compromised NYC FBI Field Office meets with Comey. They tell him that the opposition they represent was behind Hillary's "pneumonia", which is how he finds out it was a poisoning. They give him an ultimatum: either release the letter about the emails, or else this will happen: Hillary may have survived the first "demonstration" dose, but she will die from a second larger dose. To close the trap on Comey they add the threat to frame him for obstruction of justice, for trying to block the investigation of the emails.
Comey knows a number of things: that Trump's crew is dirty; that a FISA warrant application is in progress (or has already been granted if it's in October); that he faces too many opposition forces to defeat in the time available, even with his resources; and that if he stands up to the blackmail Hillary will die, and he will no longer be able to defend the Trump/Russia investigation.
His calculus goes like this: on one side is Hillary's loss of the election and his own loss of reputation, but the retention of the investigation that is crucial to the country's continued survival; on the other side is Hillary's death, his own legal destruction, and the probable loss of the nation.
His decision is that even the horrid damage Trump could do as a temporary president isn't enough to offset the downside. If he agrees to the blackmail Hillary will be alive, and he'll still be in command of the investigation - an investigation that he knows by now is the only chance of defeating Trump/Russia over the long haul and possibly saving the nation.
So he makes the choice: he trades his own reputation and certain short-term damage to the nation, for Hillary's life and a chance to save the nation from destruction at the hands of Russia and its minions. He sends the letter, and we all know the result.
Then last week, with the investigation now maturing and Sessions recused, he meets Grassley, Feinstein, and (most of) the rest of the Senate committee in the SCIF. There he lays out the story of Hillary's poisoning and the related blackmail.
Do you think a story like that would make Grassley and Feinstein look they'd seen a ghost?
Remember, this is only a story, and I'm not Alex Jones (I promise ) But it does point out that there are probably significant things we don't know about the backstory of Comey and the letter.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)It's an interesting theory, but I doubt we'll ever know the answer. Also, many if not most posters on DU steadfastly believe that Comey is inherently evil and always had HRC in his crosshairs, so the "I'll take one for the country to save Hillary's life" suggestion would probably be dismissed.
But these are the days of Trump and up is down and Republicans are Russians. Anything goes.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Maybe because I'm not quite as swept up in Democratic partisanship (being Canadian and all) I've been able to maintain a more agnostic stance. That stance has recently been gelling into a belief that there's far more to the Comey story than we know - certainly more than the simplistic reading of "Comey hates Hill and wanted to screw her." That's not the man who stood in John Ashcroft's hospital room against Gonzales and Card, and it's not the man I heard speaking in the hearing on Monday.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Through the prism of your theory. Nothing has dissuaded me as of yet.
Comey is an enigma, that's for sure.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)difficult to detect, and they certainly would NOT show up in any toxicology report. They must be screened for by experts as has been shown in the multiple cases in Europe. I don't know what to say about the theory proposed here but finding a possible poisoning in a tox screen (as they must screen for the right poison) is much more difficult than your post suggests.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)Just enough to make her ill at the right time.
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)after he'd been calling her "low energy" and " too tired"....
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)But I think it's true.
It may be, for me, something to explain Feinstein and Grassley's reaction to the Comey briefing.
Nightmare scenario.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)It's not from an unnamed source in the National Enquirer.
Boomerproud
(7,952 posts)Everything said is just speculation. It sounds like since it's classified she is chomping at the bit to expose it-unless it's actually bad news for the Democrats.
JI7
(89,250 posts)crap they did.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)The reports of seizures are from sources with an axe to grind. They were dismissed as conspiracy theories at the time, but they are there in the record - reports from late July and mid-August, culminating in her collapse at the 9/11 ceremony. The pattern fits right in with a slow progressive poison that achieved its full effect on September 11.
The fact that she apparently made a full recovery before election day (unlikely with epilepsy) makes me even more suspicious. A recovery would fit in with the poisoning being discontinued after Comey agreed to release the letter, as in my little CT above.
Google "Hillary Clinton twitches" and you'll see what I mean.
It's a murky, Byzantine world.