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hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:23 PM Jun 2012

What would happen if there was an amendment to strip corporations of personhood?

I know the chances of passing such an amendment are slim, but play along here. What difference would it make? Do other countries treat corporations as persons?

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What would happen if there was an amendment to strip corporations of personhood? (Original Post) hedgehog Jun 2012 OP
To the best of my knowledge, no other country treats corporation as persons. RC Jun 2012 #1
China treats them real well. dimbear Jun 2012 #2
I'm not persuaded the people behind this movement have thought it through. snot Jun 2012 #3
How do corporations function in other countries? hedgehog Jun 2012 #5
It has been a while since I studied political science SoutherDem Jun 2012 #4
Kinda. Chan790 Jun 2012 #6
The police could search the offices of DemocraticUnderground LLC for no reason. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #7

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
2. China treats them real well.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:33 PM
Jun 2012

I'm for the amendment, but a better path is to keep drifting the SCOTUS to the left by never electing any more Republicans.

snot

(10,538 posts)
3. I'm not persuaded the people behind this movement have thought it through.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:59 PM
Jun 2012

It would mean corps. don't have the same rights as individuals. So, e.g., they could not sue in courts. So, e.g., if there were a breach of contract between two corps., instead of one corp. suing another, all of the shareholders of one would have to sue all of the shareholders of the other – or something like that - which would be completely impracticable.

The fact is, "personhood" includes a whole lot of stuff, and we need some of it to change w.r.t. corps. – e.g., it needs to be easier to "pierce the corporate veil" that protects senior execs from personal liability for the wrongful conduct of their corps. – while some of it perhaps should not change. The law of corporations has evolved over a long period; my guess is that what happened is that somewhere along the line, it used to be pretty reasonable, but that in recent decades, it evolved so as to excessively privilege those with actual control over the corps. (meaning mostly the sr. execs., rather than small shareholders).

I think we need to consider each rule relating to the personhood of corps. individually and from a systemic point of view.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
5. How do corporations function in other countries?
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:26 PM
Jun 2012

I agree with you that some sort of status must be arrived at.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
4. It has been a while since I studied political science
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:06 PM
Jun 2012

it there a way for the citizens to get the constitution changed without using congress, U.S. or State? If not, no way. They would never hurt the fat cow they are sucking from.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
6. Kinda.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:33 PM
Jun 2012

Any state that allows referenda or ballot questions can be compelled to support a US Constitutional Amendment by referenda even over the vote of its' legislature. The rest of the process remains the same.

I don't believe that 3/4 of the states allow such referenda, though many do.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
7. The police could search the offices of DemocraticUnderground LLC for no reason.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:24 PM
Jun 2012

And confiscate the assets of DemocraticUnderground LLC, including servers, computers, and confidential records, including information that identifies members, without paying any compensation.

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