Rumors floating on Twitter

[Are_grits_groceries]

that Flynn is talking. The FBI got him. (from some sources that have been reliable before)
It will be interesting to see the actions of other people. If he is talking, they will be more batshit than usual.

[CountAllVotes]

1. Batshit or Horseshit

They both stink like hell!

[regnaD kciN]

26. What I found most interesting yesterday...

...were the reports from WH sources that Trump wasn't really that upset over the AHCA's demise, at least in comparison with three things that really set him off:

1) The overturning of his Muslim ban. (Somewhat understandable.)

2) Reports about how small the Inauguration Day crowd was.

3) Sessions recusing himself from the Russia investigation.

Uh...what? The first two seem like typical Trump ego-matters, but the last? If Sessions got caught making false statements under oath, that's his problem, but why is Mad King Donald so upset that he recused himself? Was he counting on having a loyalist in charge to make sure any investigation was quashed and never saw the light of day? That seems to be what Nunes cancelling public hearings that could reveal administration misdeeds would imply. Is it possible that The Manbaby Who Would Be King knows that there's enough out there that, if anyone started singing, he could easily find himself out of office (and behind bars)?

[Alice11111]

42. Yes. He thought Sessions would be his boy on call. He

Will be, but he's not going to implicate himself, which is why he recused himself, to TRY and get some distance.
He did not do it because it was the only professional choice, because he is not a professional. He's a suck up hypocritical racist and nothing more.

[vlyons]

51. Sessions is not completely stupid

He's been in congress a long time and was a US Attorney for the Southern district. So he knows which way the wind blows. Recusing himself is the very best way to minimize getting slopped with the fallout. Before he recused himself, he was probably briefed by Comey about what intelligence the FBI already had on the gang that couldn't shoot straight. Now if Sessions were really smart, and I'm not saying that he is, he would appoint a neutral special prosecutor. That might enable him to survive the Trump debacle and remain as Pence's AG. Assuming that Pence doesn't go down too, which is not at all certain.

[Alice11111]

59. Agree.

[leanforward]

47. Do you think

numes was afraid of using his phone? He needed face to face. Is numes part of the cabal? What's the name of numes whinery?

The more DU educates me, the more I believe, FOLLOW the MONEY. Watch out for that group NCI or something like that.

There are to many coincidences of folks in positions coupled with porusski. (sp)

I am a loyal citizen in opposition to pRezident dRumpf and any GOP lemming.

[Iggo]

2. Hope so.

I also hope Flynnmas isn't the new Fitzmas.

[Kahuna7]

6. Lol. nt

[Snackshack]

31. Agreed.

Fitzmas was a huge disappointment.

[stillcool]

32. fool me once...

memory has a way of tamping down expectations.

[jaysunb]

34. +1 n/t

[KewlKat]

3. hm....after hearing Malcom this morning, me thinks he may have had some "incite" into this, maybe?

While I don't wish our nation to go through another impeachment and cleaning house, if we allow these ba$Atards to remain I fear it would be worse.

Funny, Woolsey mentions Flynnster in secret meetings to wisk away an american to turkey and now this rumor.

[canetoad]

4. Don't know if you saw this yesterday

Posted here by another member:
http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/i-think-michael-flynn-has-already-cut-a-deal-with-the-fbi-against-donald-trump/2052/

I'm not 100% sure of the substance in Palmer's reporting but this seems plausible.

[lindysalsagal]

28. His logic makes sense to me, but then, I'm no expert. He states up front that this is speculation.

So, I'm ok with that. He's not claiming to "know" anything: He's using publicly known facts to make obvious connections and assumptions.

[leanforward]

50. Thank you

for the link. What you said and what I read makes a lot of sense. I glanced at a few other notes after yours and it is entirely plausible. Flynn has been out of my sight or articles I've read in the past 3-5 weeks.

Flynn was a general officer and one who used the general officers network. Is he still an accepted user of that network? Has (have) his clearance(s) been pulled? I would imagine Flynn has fallen out of favor with his former colleagues.

I am a loyal citizen, in opposition to pRezident dRumpf and any GOP lemming (Nunes).

[Warpy]

5. Twitter is only a rumor mill. Hard news is only reported there

during natural disasters and other big news stories in places where communication can be spotty and the big story difficult to file. Even then, it has to be taken with a pound of salt.

[Are_grits_groceries]

9. I do.

However, there are certain people and news groups that do have some credibility after a while. Even then I check them.

I don't think we are going to get a hard story for a while. I believe the FBI and whoever are building as close to an airtight case as they can get. They will want as much hard evidence and corroboration as they can get. Then I think there will be a big move on people.

They cannot afford to screw this up. They will have one chance and it has to be a knockout blow or it will get lost in political infighting. There case will have to be one that will be hard for others to rebut. Of course the hardcore will, but the middle will have to be shown that they have no choice or appear to be choosing Russia.

[Warpy]

12. I'll believe they're getting close only when Dolt45s nearest and dearest

start to skedaddle out of the country. As long as Manafort and Stone are still living happily in their ill gotten mansions, I know they feel perfectly safe.

The break, when it comes, usually comes from an obscure person no one ever suspected. Flynn is not a smart man but he is a very hard one. I'd be extremely surprised if they'd managed to break him.

[Are_grits_groceries]

16. Are you kidding?

Spending the rest of his life in Leavenworth (or even the threat of a firing squad) will make him sing.) The military don't play.
He knows he will be thrown under the bus so fast by others that he better deal first to get any consideration.

He's a shadow man. Out of the shadows, he is not much.

[Warpy]

20. Not in his character

I think the FBI is putting the rumor of a deal out in the hope that one of the minor players will come forward. Only when that happens will any of the big fish get the least bit nervous.

[OnDoutside]

23. Maybe if he has been shown some of the evidence against him, and knows he is screwed ?

[Are_grits_groceries]

24. I think they have some hard evidence on him.

If the kidnapping rumor is true, they may really be able to turn the screws. If they have the right evidence, he'll sing. I don't think he has been particularly circumspect.

[dgibby]

49. Wait until the Army recalls him to active duty,

busts him down to Buck Private, and strips him of his pay and benefits, THEN puts him in Leavenworth and sentences him to life at hard labor. He's probably on his knees begging for a deal and singing like the fat lady at the opera!

[mercuryblues]

27. Don't forget his son

He was with him every step of the way. I think his deal includes his son.

[certainot]

46. i forgot which talk radio blowhard it was but he was blaming flynn as

an inside operative for the dems trying to sabotage trump!

if that is a regular meme on rw radio it means they're trying to inoculate the teabags and trumpers and offer a scapegoat.

[superpatriotman]

7. National Enquirer says Twitler caught him spying and is now a national hero

The supermarket aisle news source says so.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

22. That actually bolsters the theory. NE is owned by a trump pal and has done his bidding...

... in the past. Even going so far as to buy a damaging story about trump and then spiking it.

If NE is "blowing the whistle" on Flynn you know there damn well is a reason.

It's now Trump versus Flynn.

[Jonny Appleseed]

8. Do you think the biopic they make of this presidency will be a cheap spy flick?

I miss those.

[Are_grits_groceries]

11. I think it would make a riveting miniseries.

The cast of characters in real life could not be matched in fiction. It would be serious material, but there will be comic relief. Seriously, Spicer and Stone are perfect foils.

There are villians and heroes(Yates, Schiff, Bhaara, and others to come).

I just hope we get through this to see it.

[malaise]

10. But but but Flynn is a wonderful man

The Con said so
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/15/politics/donald-trump-michael-flynn/

[Are_grits_groceries]

13. Bigly!

[malaise]

14. LOL

[MelissaB]

15. Asked spokesman for Flynn if he is cooperating w/the FBI. He said he is not responding. Not denying

Asked spokesman for Flynn if he is cooperating w/the FBI. He said he is not responding. Not denying or confirming, I asked. "Not responding"

Link to tweet

[Thrill]

17. Guess this why Comey was at the WH

Letting them know, to start shredding all evidence

[Are_grits_groceries]

19. Don't think so.

Those weasels will sing on him too.
I doubt he wants to get caught up in this mess anymore than he is. May have been asked to come or may have gone just to be seen there. Stirring the pot.

BTW I don't trust Comey. However, this is not a time to take a wrong step like Nunes.

[Alice11111]

43. Comey is creepy too. He sees himself as honorable, but I see him

As a traitor who put himself before his country.
Comey for jail!
I hope we take Congress in 2018 and someone investigates him. Smug POS.

[CentralMass]

41. Coaching them. No doubt.

[Are_grits_groceries]

18. That's a GLOMAR Response.

It is telling.
glomar response
A response that neither confirms nor denies the existence or nonexistence.

[MelissaB]

21. Yup!

This is going to be interesting.

[annabanana]

44. Looked up the history of "Glomar Response".. interesting!

https://nsarchive.wordpress.com/2014/02/11/neither-confirm-nor-deny-the-history-of-the-glomar-response-and-the-glomar-explorer/

The Glomar Explorer, as WNYC’s Radiolab explains, was built by the CIA with help from Howard Hughes for the six year (1968-1974) Project Azorian[1]. Project Azorian was a secret, ambitious endeavor to salvage and examine a Soviet Golf-II class submarine –and its three one-megaton nuclear missiles– which had sunk to the bottom of the ocean floor 1,560 miles northwest of Hawaii. As Project Azorian developed, Seymour Hersh sniffed a story, but the CIA successfully convinced The New York Times to suppress publication. A year later a journalist, Ann Phillippi, filed a Freedom of Information Act request for documents about the Glomar Explorer and the CIA’s attempts to censor press coverage. The CIA, questionably citing FOIA law, claimed it could “neither confirm nor deny” that documents about either the ship or the censorship existed; a judge agreed. The term “Glomar response” stuck.

[MelissaB]

25. Maybe this is what Nunes ran to tell Trump when he "disappeared"???

It would fit. I guess only time will tell.

[Kingofalldems]

45. The more I think about it the more I think it's true.

I understand Nunes was somewhere with an aid and suddenly left with no explanation. This was in the early morning Thursday.

[briv1016]

35. "Cooperate or we hand you over to Putin."

[Blue_true]

30. Is Flynn in witness protection? Polonium doped food is toxic. nt

[Honeycombe8]

33. Did Flynn break any important laws?

I am hearing "felony" floating around, but what he did was fail to register as a foreign agent for Turkey, right? That's illegal and against public policy; is it a felony?

He had those conversations with Russia about sanctions (and who knows what else), but that wasn't illegal, is my understanding. He lied about it...but not under oath.

I'm trying to understand just how much trouble Flynn is in, so that he would be striking a deal over it.

[Ccarmona]

36. From the FARA Website

"Any person who willfully violates any provisions of this Act or any regulations thereunder, or in any registration statement or supplement thereto or in any other documents filed with or furnished to the Attorney General under the provisions of this Act willfully makes a false statement of a material fact or willfully omits any material fact required to be stated therein or willfully omits a material fact or a copy of a material document necessary to make the statements therein and the copies of documents furnished therewith not misleading, shall, upon conviction thereof, be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for not more than five years. For some offenses the punishment shall be a fine of not more than $5,000 or imprisonment for not more than six months, or both."

It doesn't say whether it's a felony, however.

[jaysunb]

37. Lying to the FBI is a felony. n/t

[Honeycombe8]

54. It's not a sure thing that he did.

I read that he denied discussing sanctions w/Russia, but then said he didn't recall all of the conversations. And it's up to the DOJ whether to file charges. Trump's DOJ. Sessions I guess is recused, but it's still Trump's DOJ.

But maybe they said they'd give him a pass if he coughs up information.

There needs to be an independent prosecutor and investigation.

[randome]

40. I believe he was caught planning a kidnapping.

To turn someone over to Turkey.

[Honeycombe8]

53. No. One of the people there said he was discussing that with others...

but Flynn says he wasn't discussing that, and there is no proof. So no criminal charges for that, esp since nothing was done about that person that Turkey wanted.

[HurricaneWarning]

38. Malcolm Nance

seems to think there is a strong case for RICO for all these guys.

[former9thward]

39. And twitter is so, so reliable ......

The things people believe when they want to believe them ......

[Kingofalldems]

48. ...

Link to tweet

[former9thward]

57. "my sources"

to no one anyone has heard of...

[samnsara]

52. i was always hoping he would....

...lets hope the Russians or Stone dont get to him first.

[USALiberal]

55. No way twitter has this right. n/t

[McCamy Taylor]

56. It's obvious that Flynn lawyered up. Folks like him lawyer up when they are about to flip.

The real question is will the DOJ under Trump pressure him to keep his mouth shut the way the DOJ under Bush pressured the Enron criminals to keep their mouths shut. Or, will the GOP Congress quickly cut a deal for him to testify in exchange for immunity---and then offer the same deal to anyone he names.

[madville]

58. Sources on this are backtracking

Link to tweet