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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 08:09 AM Mar 2017

Paul Krugman: Theres A Much Bigger Con Man In American Politics Than Donald Trump

http://www.liberalamerica.org/2017/03/26/paul-krugman-theres-much-bigger-con-man-trump-american-politics/

Paul Krugman: There’s A Much Bigger Con Man In American Politics Than Donald Trump

By Andrew Bradford on March 26, 2017


You can certainly be forgiven if you think Donald Trump is the most blatant liar and con man in Washington, D.C., a city which is known for political double-talk and broken promises. Virtually every word that leaves Trump’s mouth is a blatant fabrication, but Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman says the healthcare debate proved there is a bigger con man on Capitol Hill: House Speaker Paul Ryan.

In a column he wrote for the New York Times, Krugman lit into Ryan for his lies about Obamacare and the Trump/Ryan replacement, which was not even brought to the floor of the House for a vote:

“He claims that it would lower premiums; it would actually increase them. He claims that it would end the Obamacare death spiral; there isn’t a death spiral, and his plan would be more, not less, vulnerable to a vicious circle of rising premiums and falling enrollment. He claims that it would lead to ‘patient-centered care’; whatever that is supposed to mean, it would actually do nothing to increase choice.”

Kruman also notes that Ryan’s plans for the federal budget are also nothing but a plan to cut taxes for the ultrarich:

“The alleged deficit reduction came entirely from ‘magic asterisks’: claims about huge savings to be achieved by cutting unspecified government spending, huge revenue increases to be achieved by closing unspecified government spending, huge revenue increases to be achieved by closing unspecified tax loopholes. It was a con job all the way.”

Why in the hell would anyone take anything Ryan says the least bit seriously? Krugman asks. And then he answers the question:

“This false symmetry — downplaying the awfulness of some candidates, vastly exaggerating the flaws of their opponents — isn’t the only reason America is in the mess it’s in. But it’s an important part of the story. And now we’re all about to pay the price.”


Krugman can drop the mic now. He just explained exactly why the 2016 election could wind up being a disaster for this country and our future. We had a woman who would have made an excellent president, but instead we elected a buffoon who owes his soul to Putin and lets Paul Ryan write all the draconian policies.
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Paul Krugman: Theres A Much Bigger Con Man In American Politics Than Donald Trump (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2017 OP
He's a repugnant liar. BSdetect Mar 2017 #1
Ryan has been completely exposed. Sorceress Mar 2017 #2
To us, yes. For sure. pangaia Mar 2017 #11
The media has dubbed him an "intellectual" though NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #3
That was so outstanding. DK504 Mar 2017 #14
Another candidate for biggest con man in US politics GeoWilliam750 Mar 2017 #17
He's an intellectual because he's smarter than Rick Perry dalton99a Mar 2017 #19
Where did Ryan ever get his reputation as a policy wonk? rurallib Mar 2017 #4
He uses his soft-spoken demeanor to push that fantasy that he is a 'serious' politician. randome Mar 2017 #5
That's a really good question I don't know the answer to but babylonsister Mar 2017 #6
"Ryan looks like a thoughtful man. He can furrow his brow in simulation of abstract reasoning." rurallib Mar 2017 #7
He talked in numbers, but the numbers made no sense! n/t TexasBushwhacker Mar 2017 #20
When you are the C- student in a class of D's and F's, you are the wonk. Caliman73 Mar 2017 #16
republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief is expert at Trickle Down Economics (R) Achilleaze Mar 2017 #8
If Ayn Rand had a favored son... JohnnyRingo Mar 2017 #9
Before he became Speaker he REQUIRED his congressional office staff to read Ayn Rand. Augiedog Mar 2017 #10
I am hoping they all eat their own. bdamomma Mar 2017 #12
I think he's got some Russian stain his hands MontanaMama Mar 2017 #13
Paul Ryan is right about one thing Left-over Mar 2017 #15
I don't know about "bigger" but there sure are on equal Cha Mar 2017 #18

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
11. To us, yes. For sure.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:31 AM
Mar 2017

But I think not yet to the freepers and blind followers of the evil power...

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
3. The media has dubbed him an "intellectual" though
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:13 AM
Mar 2017

so they must take him seriously. Of course, Democratic "intellectuals" are elitist and out of touch.

I just remember the debate in 2012 and Joe Biden made him look like the fool he is, and I'm still shaking my head that people still take him seriously.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
14. That was so outstanding.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:09 AM
Mar 2017

Unca Joe Joe needs to barnstorm the country and bitch slap Ryan and his cabal of cruel puppets.

dalton99a

(81,512 posts)
19. He's an intellectual because he's smarter than Rick Perry
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 07:46 PM
Mar 2017

and he doesn't need glasses to think like Rick Perry

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
4. Where did Ryan ever get his reputation as a policy wonk?
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:14 AM
Mar 2017

This last foray proves conclusively he is a total idiot about policy.
Plus Ryan showed he was little more than a Trump puppet.

Remember when he ran with Romney - seemed like the two were in a lying contest.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. He uses his soft-spoken demeanor to push that fantasy that he is a 'serious' politician.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:18 AM
Mar 2017

But he is just as stupid as the rest of them.
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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
6. That's a really good question I don't know the answer to but
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:18 AM
Mar 2017

this suggests 'the soft bigotry of low expectations'...


http://www.liberalamerica.org/2017/03/26/paul-krugman-theres-much-bigger-con-man-trump-american-politics/

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The myth of Ryan the Wonk was crucially nurtured not just by the right but by centrists and liberals, eager to have a Republican who didn’t just froth about “freedom” but actually could talk in numbers. These celebrations started to take off in 2010, as Ryan was offering an alternative budget which, his fans thought, was more serious than the anti-government rhetoric of the Tea Party, then emerging as a force in the Republican Party. James Stewart in the New York Times praised Ryan for having an “eminently sensible” approach to tax reform which offered an “outline of a grand compromise.” Klein, writing in The Washington Post, concurred, touting Ryan as having a “more honest” approach to budgets than typical Republicans. Alice Rivlin, former Clinton administration budget chief, described Ryan as “smart and knowledgeable” and “willing to negotiate.”

Ryan’s sparkly reputation rested partly, of course, on the soft bigotry of low expectations (better than you would expect a Republican to be!), but also on appearance. Ryan looks like a thoughtful man. He can furrow his brow in simulation of abstract reasoning.

Not everyone was fooled. Paul Krugman called him a “flimflam man,” pointing out that the numbers Ryan touted in his imaginary budget didn’t add up, with the proposed tax cuts creating much bigger deficits than Ryan acknowledges.

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rurallib

(62,416 posts)
7. "Ryan looks like a thoughtful man. He can furrow his brow in simulation of abstract reasoning."
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:23 AM
Mar 2017


His "budget" was just putting some made up numbers to Republican hate and bigotry.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
16. When you are the C- student in a class of D's and F's, you are the wonk.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:48 AM
Mar 2017

You have to consider where Ryan is. On our side you have a slew of intellectuals and accomplished speakers like Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Sherrod Brown, Corey Booker, Kirsten Gillibrand, Al Franken, etc.... Those are just the Senators. It is a long list.

Really, who else is the "intellectual" side of the Republican party? Rand Paul? Mitch McConnell? Ryan is willing to step in front of the cameras and act the part, though he often fails miserably. The media needs two sides so they have selected him without merit.

Augiedog

(2,548 posts)
10. Before he became Speaker he REQUIRED his congressional office staff to read Ayn Rand.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:22 AM
Mar 2017

His fawning over what may be one of the most awful humans to ever be given relevance is disgraceful, disgusting, dangerous and disturbing. Just a reminder, he and his family survived on Social Security when he was growing up. His college education was paid for by the government he vilifies today.

When he pays it all back with interest I'll believe that he believes in his idiotic ideology. For now, I think he is just a scammer looking for more free rides, this time from billionaires in stead of Uncle Sam.

MontanaMama

(23,317 posts)
13. I think he's got some Russian stain his hands
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:49 AM
Mar 2017

And I'm hopeful he'll be implicated in the investigation. Didn't Nunes take his intel to Ryan before the WH? He's in this mess too. That said, I just hate that little MF.

Left-over

(234 posts)
15. Paul Ryan is right about one thing
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:10 AM
Mar 2017

Insurance premiums would go down for many people. When you pay nothing because you cannot afford the premiums do go down. For several years my wife and could not have had coverage without the ACA.

Cha

(297,249 posts)
18. I don't know about "bigger" but there sure are on equal
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 07:20 PM
Mar 2017

footing.. and I'm glad Krugman is calling him out!

Krugman can drop the mic now. He just explained exactly why the 2016 election could wind up being a disaster for this country and our future. We had a woman who would have made an excellent president, but instead we elected a buffoon who owes his soul to Putin and lets Paul Ryan write all the draconian policies.
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