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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:45 AM Mar 2017

Noam Chomsky: Trump could stage a "false flag" terror attack and "change the country instantly"

Noam Chomsky: Trump could stage a ‘false flag’ terror attack and ‘change the country instantly’

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/noam-chomsky-trump-could-stage-a-false-flag-terror-attack-and-change-the-country-instantly/

Author and political philosopher Noam Chomsky sounded a dire warning on Monday in an interview with AlterNet’s Jan Frel, saying that President Donald Trump could stage a “false flag” terror attack in an effort to consolidate his power and strip Americans of their constitutional rights.

Chomsky warned that eventually the people who voted for Trump will realize that his “promises are built on sand” and begin to lose faith in his presidency, at which point Trump will need someone to scapegoat, so he will say, “‘Well, I’m sorry, I can’t bring your jobs back because these bad people are preventing it.’ And the typical scapegoating goes to vulnerable people: immigrants, terrorists, Muslims and elitists, whoever it may be. And that can turn out to be very ugly.”

“I think that we shouldn’t put aside the possibility that there would be some kind of staged or alleged terrorist act, which can change the country instantly,” Chomsky said.

Chomsky — who has called Trump a “con man” who will drag civilization “down to the utter depths of barbarism” — also said that much of the world is amused at the outrage many Americans feel about Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
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Noam Chomsky: Trump could stage a "false flag" terror attack and "change the country instantly" (Original Post) Miles Archer Mar 2017 OP
That's not what he said. The interviewer said something like that, but no that. Hearsay. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #1
Any attack will be an opportunity for Trump self promotion. gordianot Mar 2017 #6
Any attack will be a failure by trump. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #9
Here's David Ferguson's tweet Miles Archer Mar 2017 #7
He said he said is hearsay. What did Chomsky actually say isn't said. Simple enough. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #10
And my simple response is that if you think the author posted click bait... Miles Archer Mar 2017 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Orrex Mar 2017 #2
Well, don't give the orange orangutan any ideas captain queeg Mar 2017 #3
Conspiracy theories are still conspiracy theories, even if Chomsky thinks them up brooklynite Mar 2017 #4
In this case, if someone infers he might have said it but he did not. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #11
True and I think he will. nt doc03 Mar 2017 #5
I wouldn't put it past Trump, but this is sort of a no-brainer MineralMan Mar 2017 #8
He's an anarchist, ronnie624 Mar 2017 #18
Actually, he's not an anarchist. MineralMan Mar 2017 #23
Noam Chomsky: ronnie624 Mar 2017 #24
That's Why I've Been Getting Out In Front Of It ChoppinBroccoli Mar 2017 #12
At this point, Mme. Defarge Mar 2017 #13
Jesus, Chomsky, don't give him any ideas! librechik Mar 2017 #15
I don't agree...the Bush thing would never work again. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #16
The trust factor is severely lacking. Trump is a congenital liar with a long well-documented history dalton99a Mar 2017 #19
There was not the suspicion there is now... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #21
It is as likely folks would attribute an attack to his incompetence. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #17
Already planned Johnny2X2X Mar 2017 #20
I doubt that very much. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #22

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
1. That's not what he said. The interviewer said something like that, but no that. Hearsay.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:47 AM
Mar 2017

Jan Frel says "What we need to worry about, Chomsky says, is the potential for the Trump administration to capitalize on a "staged or alleged" terrorist attack."

Chomsky is brilliant, and would not say the words people have put in his mouth.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
6. Any attack will be an opportunity for Trump self promotion.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:56 AM
Mar 2017

By now many people expect it, Trump credibility as a brand or politics should never be trusted.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
7. Here's David Ferguson's tweet
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:01 AM
Mar 2017



You could challenge the author's chosen headline, if you choose, by replying to it.

I copied and pasted this from Raw Story. It's generally viewed as a reputable source here.

If the article is misleading, I had no way of knowing that.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
10. He said he said is hearsay. What did Chomsky actually say isn't said. Simple enough.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:09 AM
Mar 2017

"the general population dosen't know whats happening and it doesn't even know that it doesn't know" Noam Chomsky

https://twitter.com/noamchomskyT

I assume this is his account, albeit it does not say "verified account"

It is wrong that journalists are click-baiting with inference he said something he did not actually say.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
14. And my simple response is that if you think the author posted click bait...
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:19 AM
Mar 2017

...I gave you the means to contact the author and tell him so.

That's all I can say on the subject.

Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

captain queeg

(10,201 posts)
3. Well, don't give the orange orangutan any ideas
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:55 AM
Mar 2017

He's probably too stupid to have thought of it himself, but surely his handlers would know how to capitalize. Just like after 9/11 when the Heritage Foundation was jumping in glee.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
8. I wouldn't put it past Trump, but this is sort of a no-brainer
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:01 AM
Mar 2017

conclusion. That something like that is a possibility has been suggested many times on DU and pretty much everywhere else. This doesn't sound like something Chomsky would say as an original statement.

Further, I do not believe that Noam Chomsky is necessarily a progressive, really, based on things he said in 2016.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
18. He's an anarchist,
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:25 AM
Mar 2017

meaning power is obligated to justify itself to the people. If it cannot do so, he believes it has no right to exist. There is no doubt that his views on social and economic justice are progressive. Many posters here, are not what I would consider progressive.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
23. Actually, he's not an anarchist.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 02:02 PM
Mar 2017

His political philosophy isn't simple enough for one-word descriptions. I'm quite sure he could expound on that at length, but I doubt many would take the time to read it for understanding.

As a political thinker, he's a great linguist, although I have disagreed with his linguistic theories, too.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
12. That's Why I've Been Getting Out In Front Of It
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:13 AM
Mar 2017

Every time I make political posts on Facebook, or in any forum where a lot of people will see it, I always make sure to warn people to keep their eyes open for a modern-day Reichstag Fire, because I know that Trump is looking for one (and would likely be willing to stage one). It's right out of Steve Bannon's playbook. If you plant the idea in people's heads NOW, then rather than getting swept up in the "we have to unite behind fearless leader" fervor immediately thereafter (like what happened immediately after 9/11), they'll be like, "Wait a minute. This is playing out EXACTLY like I was told it would. I'm not buying it."

I think it will happen (or, more correctly, will be ALLOWED to happen) either leading up to the 2018 election or the 2020 election. If the polls show that Republicans are going to get swept out of office in 2018, and there's a real risk of Democrats retaking the House and/or Senate (and thereby increasing the probability of impeachment), then it will happen in the late summer/early fall of 2018. If the Republicans think they're safe in 2018, they'll wait until 2020 to try to increase their chances of getting Trump re-elected.

Make no mistake, Bannon is all over this. Don't think we don't all remember about what happened after 9/11, and how, just when Bush looked like he was doomed, right on cue, we get a videotape from Osama Bin Laden days before the 2004 election to pull him out of the fire. Every time Democrats start looking like they're going to thwart the Republicans' plans, there's always some, "remember to be afraid, be very, very afraid" act that happens, quite coincidentally, I'm sure, to rescue the failing Republican party.

So get out in front of this. Warn people that Bannon is planning his Reichstag Fire as we speak (because he is--it's right in his blueprint). Then when it happens, people will be suspicious rather than shocked.

Mme. Defarge

(8,033 posts)
13. At this point,
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:18 AM
Mar 2017

I think this kind of maneuver is becoming less and less likely given that the Republican president is a known liar and fool, not to mention a loser. Such a move would be seen by most for what it was, and Trump doesn't have the credibility or political capital to pull it off.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
16. I don't agree...the Bush thing would never work again.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:46 AM
Mar 2017

There would be no holding hands and singing God Bless America but investigations and impeachment.

dalton99a

(81,513 posts)
19. The trust factor is severely lacking. Trump is a congenital liar with a long well-documented history
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:34 AM
Mar 2017

W was a relative newcomer and people thought he was just an idiot.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
21. There was not the suspicion there is now...
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 12:01 PM
Mar 2017

And we know that it was Bush's fault... Now Trumpie doesn't even listen to intel briefings...the Army is in control of the stupid wars and the new one in Syria Trump is trying to start.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
20. Already planned
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:41 AM
Mar 2017

If you don't think they already have the plans in place for a false flag terror attack you are in denial. There are literal sociopaths in charge. They would even go as far as a nuclear attack on a US city if it furthered their agenda one iota. And they'll blame it on obama.

This group is depraved and do not hide the fact that they want to destroy the American way of life.

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