Leggingsgate - What's your Opinion

[MineralMan]

This poll is about teens in public places, and particularly when boarding planes. Vote for the one you think is the most not OK. Read them all before voting.

This poll brought to you by Irrelevancy World Magazine

38 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Leggings alone - NOT OK
	2 (5%)
	Leggings with miniskirt - NOT OK
	0 (0%)
	Leggings with knee-length skirt - NOT OK
	0 (0%)
	Leggings with built-in skirty thing - NOT OK
	0 (0%)
	Leggings with underwear showing - NOT OK
	3 (8%)
	Leggings with deliberate tears or holes - NOT OK
	0 (0%)
	I don't really care what they wear
	23 (61%)
	You're NOT leaving the house like that!
	1 (3%)
	I like to vote.
	2 (5%)
	Other (please explain)
	7 (18%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[True Dough]

1. I'm holding out

for the "footings" poll. I'll be on firming footing there.

[Missn-Hitch]

2. I apologize for being off topic but did anyone else see a United commercial with Chuck Norris?

Sounds like a "family values" company.

I could be wrong. Cheers.

[Buns_of_Fire]

83. Was he wearing leggings? nt

[Missn-Hitch]

109. That symbol of masculinity? I was mistaken. It was a United Health commercial. Cheers.

[No Vested Interest]

3. Too bad there are apparently no photos of this aberration.

It's hard to make an informed judgment without seeing what the airline representative found reprehensible.

[Hortensis]

54. It's not what the people applying the rules

saw, it's what lead to creation of clothing standards in the first place, including updates to include leggings.

Long ago I ran a business infinitely smaller than United, but our clients visited the office, we used local events for staff outings, and it left me fully able to understand the need to set standards for employees when they were seen as representing the company in public. And rules, of course, have to be simple to apply and applied equally.

For me, no need to judge United's decision. It's enough that they would not try to impose this dress code on their passengers.

[Lisa0825]

4. In general, I'd say as lonog as I can't see their undies or privates, but...

.... the situation spurring this public debate is actually involving teens who were flying on employee passes. When my family flew on passes when the Coast Guard was relocating us, we were told we had to dress appropriately because we could end up in business class or first class, depending on where the available seats were. My understanding is that the teens did not adhere to the pass's dress code, which is a higher standard than paying customers. I think that is a fair rule.

[mythology]

14. What's "appropriate"?

If it's not outlined in some detail, they can fuck off leaving it up to the arbitrary capricious decision of any random airline employee.

[Lisa0825]

15. When we flew on passes, it was "Business Casual."

I don't think leggings would fit into that category.

[Blue_true]

82. Underwear not visible. Leggings not transparent. Leggings fit (not too tight or loose).

There is some subjectivity in everything, impossible to eliminate all.

[NurseJackie]

5. Other: "Obey the dress code if you're allowed to fly free."

[B2G]

6. So much this.

These dress codes have been in place forever.

Talk about phony outrage.

[southerncrone]

27. +1 Obey the rules, or pay the price. Kids not getting their way. Boo Hoo.

[JenniferJuniper]

31. "My child is special!

She felt like wearing leggings that day; the company rules about banned clothing on their free flights be damned!"

[southerncrone]

39. As a former teacher, I know this argument all too well!

[JenniferJuniper]

41. Oh, I can only imagine you do!

[NurseJackie]

67. "Can't you just make an exception this one time? We won't do it again. Promise!"

[RobinA]

98. Really...

I hate business casual, but for a free plane ticket I'll manage.

[tammywammy]

13. +1, follow the dress code for non-rev tickets. n/t

[Phentex]

52. It's as simple as that.

Follow the rules.

[GoCubsGo]

64. Yep. Especially when you know the rules in the first place.

[phylny]

70. Exactly.

A college friend of ours is a pilot for a major airline. There is a dress code for his family and for him if he flies as a passenger. They are to be dressed very nicely. He wears a tie and collared shirt. That's the way it is when you get free flights from your airline, end of discussion.

Otherwise, I don't care what people wear.

[EllieBC]

92. Agree. Want to ignore the dress code? Buy a full price fare

like everyone else.

[Sentath]

97. i.e. If you are flying for free, please class the joint up a bit

Sounds fair

[crazycatlady]

7. I've flown on United employee passes

My aunt is an employee of United (then Continental). I've flown on several employee passes as a teen. Not once was I ever informed of a dress code, and dressed like a typical teenager.

If there is a dress code, it needs to be better known ahead of time. It sounds like it is at the discretion of the gate agent, who was probably a conservative Christian policing underage girls' attire.

(I haven't flown on a pass since Continental and United's merger).

[joeybee12]

10. Having worked for an airline, the dress code is hammered into you

You even get a flyer with the rules when you get the pass

[malaise]

61. Agree

Pay your fare or obey the rules

[joeybee12]

72. Hi

Tennis has been interesting this year with the return of Roger and Rsfa. I still think Murray stays number one. He has too much of a lead

[malaise]

74. Murray will be out for six weeks

I heard that yesterday. Love the return of both the Fed and Rafa. Watching Kyrgios in Miami as I type.
Want to see Nunes but they're playing with us on CNN

[joeybee12]

76. I knew he pulled out of Miami

Didn't know for how long. He's got about a 50 00 point lead on Djoker who seems out of it, and I think about 8000 on Roger.

[malaise]

78. Yep he'll remain #1 for a while

but the big men are back Just spoke with my Miami sis and she and her hubby had a blast yesterday - saw Venus and Rafa

[joeybee12]

86. Just checked the scores. Wow

Every match except Roger's has been close

[malaise]

87. Yep

good for the fans

[kcr]

19. Same. I've never taken advantage of it, but other family members have.

I've ever heard about it either. And it's not like any other passengers know the difference. I think the airline is just using it to excuse an employee's bad behavior.

[WoonTars]

22. I have too, and they were very clear on the dress code.

If you want the benefit, you play by the rules.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

32. Then your aunt was not doing her job to ensure you knew the rules of non rev travel.

Had you been involved in a confrontation or bad publicity for the airline, your aunt could have lost her privileges.

Iirc, the rules are printed on the back of the pass. At least they were for American Airlines when I used my dad's privileges. Furthermore, the employees were notified they were 100% responsible for their guest's conduct.

One of the big issues besides the dress code was making sure the pass traveler could grasp the concept of "Stand-by" travel and not throw a fit or make demands when they didn't make a flight.

When we flew we were under sctrict orders. Dress for first class. We boarded last. And the rules required discretely notifying the flight attendant you were non rev - so you would only receive your choice of meal if available (I actually got called out by an FA for that once).

Flying stand-by space-available is an art form. Whenever I got passes for friends, I was highly involved in booking and briefing them on the rules. You really have to plan ahead and go for the sure thing. You probably aren't getting the Sunday 2pm flight home because that's when every paying passenger wants to go home. Especially if there are only 5 seats available the night before. Same for Friday after work. Last time I flew home from San Francisco I had to lave at like 830 am after being out all night. That meant getting up at 6am. But the price was right - and the lord baby Jesus had mercy on my sole and gave me business class.

Hopefully the busybody who started a twitter storm over a situation they knew nothing about didn't cost the employee their privileges. It sounds like the passengers were complying without too much trouble. But, boy has this caused a shitstorm I'm sure the company doesn't appreciate. And it would have been completely avoided if the passengers knew the rules.

P.S. I have no idea what a legging is. I'm picturing Jane Fonda with those big stocking type things for aerobics. Now people are saying they are undies??? Get off my lawn.

[duncang]

59. This!!

The employee who they are buddies with should have made sure they understood the rules. That is where the blame should be focused.

Also I haven't heard that a public statement from the people who actually had the problem.

All that being said they should look at the rules and see if they really want to keep them as is.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

60. I could argue the legging issue if I knew what a legging is.

[Ms. Toad]

80. Basically footless tights worn as pants.

They often don't leave much to the imagination.

[Warpy]

8. It should be noted that one of the "women" in leggings was ten years old

and certainly not an employee of the airline.

In any case, their dress code is outdated.

[joeybee12]

12. No, then they,are friends or family of an employee

Be a use employees get a certain umber of passes to distribute to such

[Warren DeMontague]

84. I agree.

People need to get a life. The problem with air travel these days isn't that teenagers aren't dressing fancy enough, it's that too many fucking humans are crammed into the planes like cattle, they've basically taken away every single amenity except breathable air (and that's probably the next one you'll have to pay extra for) and everyone is miserable.

[FSogol]

9. All these complaints about Legos. Just let the kids play with their toys.

[MineralMan]

11. KIK! Never mind...

[Madam Mossfern]

16. I voted legging alone not ok

I don't think young girls should be out in public topless.

[MineralMan]

18. Well, see, I was staring so hard at the leggings that

I didn't notice. Sheesh!

[unblock]

17. the irony here is that the company created those rules so these free passengers would

represent the company well.

then when they try to enforce the rules, they get a p.r. mess that does not reflect well on the company.


perhaps they'll reconsider their approach....

[MineralMan]

20. Funny how that works, isn't it?

I looked, and most middle and high school dress codes don't allow leggings to be worn unless they're covered with a skirt or dress that otherwise meets the dress code. Makes sense to me, really, although it's not something I really think much about, since I have no children, nor do I hang out where they congregate.

[ProfessorGAC]

21. Problem With That UB, Is. . .

. . .they may just decide employees can get passes and no more family benefits. I know they fly standby so there is no lost revenue by taking these family members, but if this level of bad PR can be had by enforcing long standing rules, the "easiest" decision is employees only and then the dress code is a condition of employment.

Lots of people get stung by that if that happens.

[unblock]

50. imho, the easiest thing to do is just drop the separate dress code.

but yeah, i hear ya. management doesn't like giving employees a "win".

[ProfessorGAC]

57. Yep

I think we're both right on this. The dress code may be unnecessary and out of date, but it would be easy to drive a draconian decision to just end the benefit.

[Orrex]

99. If the employees' guests get the policy cancelled, then the fault is theirs

The employees got the "win" when the policy was enacted. If the policy is rescinded because the employees' guests thereafter abuse that policy, then how is that the management's fault?

[unblock]

102. i'm saying if management keeps the free ticket perk but relaxes the separate dress code requirement.

that would be a "win" for the employees.


yes, management could stop the free/reduced ticket perk for all employees based on the actions of a couple of non-employee guests of one employee, but that would piss off all their employees, the vast majority of which presumably have not been violating the separate dress code.

[Orrex]

103. Alternatively...

The could rescind the policy (temporarily or otherwise) for the employee whose guests messed it up, while leaving it unchanged for the others.

[unblock]

104. yes, well, the real question is who went to the media with the story.

it sounds like they stuck to the policy without much problem, they were denied a seat, they changed their attire, then they got seats eventually.

so the real problem is if the employee's guests, or worse, the employee themselves, went to the media with the story. that would likely violate an entirely different rule, as generally speaking, big companies bar all but a few designated employees from talking to the media, except with permission.

if the person who went to the media was just an onlooker, there's not much the company can do about that.

[Orrex]

105. That's a great point that I hadn't considered (nt)

[womanofthehills]

42. How would anyone know what deal someone got to be on the plane - or care?

Only good thing to come out of this - on Twitter - people who will be flying United soon said they plan to wear leggings - men included.

[unblock]

48. that's the silly part. the company knows that they are employees and their family, but no one else

other than that someone may happen to know or recognize them if they're rather frequent fliers perhaps.

but imho, if they're out of uniform, they're not representing the company, so no need for a special dress code.

[Egnever]

56. That is because you only care about what you think

The airline has to think about all of its passengers. By enforcing a dress code on a free flight they ensure that their paying customers are not affected.

So if the the kid had a t shirt that said fuck Muslims it would be ok? And if that kid flew in the plane and it came out that it was an employee....Hooowee would united catch shit for that.

Where is your line drawn?

It has to be drawn somewhere united errs on the side of caution again for a free flight they don't have to offer in the first place.

I don't understand how it is a problem thy want to ensure the people flying free do not adversely affect the flights of their paying passengers.

[unblock]

73. why thank you for the gratuitous insult.

i'm pretty sure airlines can boot and have booted *paying* passengers for a t-shirt like that, or at least insist they cover it up or wear it inside out.

the airline has an interest even in making sure that paying passengers aren't interfering the service they're providing to other paying passengers, hence they have the right to boot people for unruly behavior and such.


the question is not whether they can hold passengers to a reasonable standard, it's clear that they can and should. the question is whether there should be a higher standard to which they hold free passengers.

i'm not disputing their right to do so, i'm just questioning their wisdom in doing so, at least with respect to this particular rule.

i mean, c'mon, we're not talking about offensive t-shirts; we're talking about leggings!

[Egnever]

88. Just saying

Your standards are not everyone's standards and United has a duty to its shareholders to piss off as few people as possible, even more so when it is employees they are giving free or reduced flights to. With the popularity of leggings these days it might be time to revisit their standards but these passengers should have been well aware of the policy and chose to ignore it.

The only reason it is even in the news is because someone who had no clue what was going on complained.

[unblock]

91. i rather suspect they failed here in their duty to shareholders

they most likely lost in terms of employee satisfaction/retention as well as probably lost a few customers. hardly the worst p.r. problem in history, but it's certainly not a positive story for them even if you agree with the company.

as i've said, companies can certainly have and enforce such standards if they want to, but they have to weigh the p.r. risks as well.

in this case, yeah, the leggings restriction certainly seems outdated at best and should go away, imho. even if it was a good idea before this incident, it certainly isn't a good idea now.

[Initech]

23. Well after hearing United's policy I side with the airline on this one.

I hate to play devil's advocate but it makes sense when you hear the other side. What the outrage machine doesn't tell you is that the girls were getting free flights, and they were flying on United's dime. And United has a very strict dress code that all passengers who get these flights must abide by. If you're getting free travel, you play by the rules or GTFO.

[DesertRat]

90. I agree with you. nt

[HAB911]

24. Voted 'I don't care" becuase

the last few times I flew, many paying male passengers wore sleeveless he-man t-shirts, shorts and flip-flops. It's become a cattle call and I'll never fly again if at all possible. And that's before getting groped by the TSA.

[Egnever]

89. Sounds like you do care

And in this case the United dress code for employees flying for free would have avoided exactly the outfits that stopped you from flying.

[HAB911]

93. I did care, now I don't care

because, barring some unimaginable emergency, I plan to never fly again because it have become a cesspool.

[southerncrone]

25. There may be health safety reasons for not wearing leggings, or other tight clothes, on

airline flights.

http://traveltips.usatoday.com/safest-clothes-wear-airplane-59229.html

United is not the only airline prohibiting leggings.

http://www.idealgrowthclients.com/UserFiles/AA%20Travel%20Policy%20and%20Dress%20Code.pdf

[LAS14]

51. What's the date of the American memo? 1932????

The requirements for passes obviously have no correlation to the actual wardrobes of people flying in first class, never mind coach.

[ExciteBike66]

26. Other: "Get off my lawn!"

[marybourg]

28. Leggings are underwear. They're not

the same as yoga pants, except those defective yoga pants from a few years back. Might be acceptable, in my opinion, up to kindergarten age.

[MineralMan]

30. Here in Minnesota, I see a lot of leggings on the way

to the bus stop in my neighborhood, under skirts. They make sense, I guess, although I'd be wearing insulated pants on the really cold days. Apparently middle schoolers and teens don't get cold.

[marybourg]

37. Under skirts is fine. That's where they belong. That's what they are designed

and manufactured for. These young women were wearing them in lieu of pants.

This is a disgusting fad right up there with sleeveless undershirts or bare torsos on adult men in public places, and drooping pants on teen males. On very young, svelte people some of these might be only minimally optically offensive, but we have no constitutional mechanism for limiting these styles to only that age and body type. On a person of any other age and body type they amount to cruel and unusual punishment on the rest of us.

[MineralMan]

43. That's what I was thinking.

However, I'm totally unconcerned about what other people wear. If it makes them look horrid, then I'm looking somewhere else. If it is designed to provoke, I might be looking, but will remain unprovoked.

I remember one time in California, back in the 1980s, I was walking down the main shopping street in San Luis Obispo on a nice warm spring day. A mother and her teenaged daughter were walking toward me. The kid was maybe 15. She was wearing a transparent blouse with no bra. Noticing that, I looked in another direction, but I had to wonder what on Earth Mom was thinking. I probably would have told the girl to cover up better before taking her shopping, I think.

I'm really completely unconcerned about people's clothing. I have, during my life, seen a naked man walking down a city street with other pedestrians around. To their credit, nobody appeared to take much notice beyond noting that the man was naked. That seemed an appropriate response to me.

[ret5hd]

58. Really? Are you sure?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023055167

[marybourg]

68. Looking elsewhere is fine, if you're

not in a semi-confinement situation like inside the fuselage of an airplane, a crowded subway train, a MVD line, etc.

[RobinA]

100. Gotta Agree

and I'm a damn hippie. The stuff I see at my gym makes me feel like I took a wrong turn into a gynecologist's office. Yoga pants that fit, OK. Leggings that fit like tights worn as pants, not so much.

[marybourg]

107. And that 's a gym!

Can you imagine having to see the same thing walking up and down the aisle of a plane, squeezing past you in aisle seat to get to the window seat!

[womanofthehills]

45. All the kids seem to be wearing leggings as pants

Leggings are also made to look like jeans - hard to tell the difference sometimes.

[marybourg]

69. I guess if they're thick enough and really

made to look like jeans, and the wearer isn't so muuuuch larger than the leggings that they've been rendered sheer from stretching, it might be OK for a Sat. afternoon foray to the mall in a group, (but not for my daughters, and certainly not me).

This was a special situation where a privilege was granted (free or reduced air fare) in exchange for giving up a right (to dress like a s_ _ _, fill in whatever). The rules should have been known. Even I knew about them from a neighbor who was a retired AA employee. He wore a sports coat and tie and his wife a dress or skirt, even tho they always flew the red-eye.

[0rganism]

29. before supporting any dress code i ask myself a few questions...

1. is the clothing disruptive and/or dangerous? (e.g. has an attached light display flashing at a seizure-causing frequency)
2. is the clothing something that would figure prominently during the desired activity? (e.g. if the intended activity is riding in an airplane cabin, would the clothing be generally visible to other travelers while seated in an airplane?)
3. is it really any of my business? (i.e., is the clothing intended to provoke me or those in specific demographics in a way that would potentially lead to direct action on my part?)

if i don't see a positive answer to at least 2/3, i would shelve the whole idea. in this case, the problem appears to be inappropriate legwear. not having seen the clothing in question, i would still hypothesize these answers:
1. no, the leggings are not in themselves hazardous
2. no, we tend to remain seated during flight so they aren't a significant factor
3. potentially, if the leggings were overtly sexualized, they could be construed as inviting action on the part of horny males with poor impulse control

1/3 as far as i know, so it's not something i would be inclined to regulate or restrict

[petronius]

33. I believe the "built-in skirty thing" is called a peplum

If we're going to discuss serious topics, we should show respect for the topic by using correct terminology...


(And with that, I'm off to contact all of my elected representatives to express my outrage over the Great Leggings Travesty of 2017.)

[MineralMan]

35. I'm afraid I'm not 100% current on fashion jargon.

Now, just watch - I'll get a contract to write the content for a fashion boutique. Heaven help me!

[Phentex]

55. the peplum is the part added. It doesn't have to be a skirt...

there are peplum tops, shorts dresses, skirts, etc.

And now peplum leggings.

[malaise]

34. Decades ago I worked with an airline

The rule was if you were traveling on a pass you had to wear specific clothing. I once received a letter reminding me that even though I wore a top and pants that matched, it was not a suit. I had violated the specific clothing requirements.
I read this in the Guardian yesterday.

[MineralMan]

36. I think now they just say business casual, whatever that might mean.

Since I'm self-employed, business casual for me is the jammies I slept it. Most days, though I wear formal business attire when I commute to my basement office, which means jeans and a flannel shirt.

[malaise]

40. Well business casual for me these days

might include leggings

[MineralMan]

44. In Jamaica? Aren't you too warm?

On the other hand, when my wife and I spent a week near Playa del Carmen in Mexico, I found that Speedos on overweight German tourists were a bit much. I'd rather they went nude like so many others did there. There's just something about a Speedo on a man with a substantial belly that has a certain ick factor.

[malaise]

46. Not between November and March

from April Yoga pants are fine

[MineralMan]

47. I'll remember to pack lightly, then.

But men can go barelegged, so maybe I'll just pack a shoulder bag.

[malaise]

62. Check that out before you use an airline

pass

[jmowreader]

38. Where's the "don't believe everything you read on the Internet" choice?

[LAS14]

49. Patricia Arquette's tweet is perfect.

I wish I knew how to cut and paste tweets. Anyway.... "Leggings are business attire for 10 year olds. Their business is being children."

[Sancho]

53. I really don't care even if the airline does...

I'm pretty sure the flight crew had very short skirts and leggings a few decades ago...

[grantcart]

63. These were dependents of the airline who were flying free

The airline has every right to have what ever dress code they want for their own people.

The recipients of the free tickets have every right to not take the free tickets.

Interesting to note that the people who were asked to change their dress didn't complain but an observer who didn't have all of the facts.

[Kimchijeon]

65. I have to say Other- NSFL image warning 😈

Really I don't care. However, if the kid (or adult for that matter) is morbidly obese, it's just common courtesy to please abstain from wearing leggings. Don't do it!

This has been a public service announcement. Thank you.




JUST SAY NO

[LeftInTX]

66. This is truly a first world problem

[Vogon_Glory]

71. I'm a dirty old man and I like to look. n/t

[kimbutgar]

75. As a spouse of a United employee who has flown standby for 27 years

We have always been subjected to dress codes when flying standby. When I first flew standby my hubby had to wear a tie when we went to Hawaii once. I have always been accustomed to dressing nicer. No shorts, tennis shoes or jeans. When you fly for free you follow the rules.

That said I wore leggings under a dress recently flying home on a pass. No one stopped this old lady.

[Warren DeMontague]

77. GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boy, you sure know how to get DU worked up, especially since dinner isn't until 5:15.

[greymattermom]

79. If they were flying as nonrevs

they were given a dress code to follow. Only paying customers can wear leggings.

[Blue_true]

81. I don't have a problem with people wearing legging as long as they size them to fit.

when people don't size the stuff right, it's gross, regardless of who wear them.

[Buns_of_Fire]

85. Now I see what the problem is.

I always thought that "leggings" were what ballerinas are always shown wearing while they rehearse. Like this:

A little sloppy for formal wear, but nothing that anyone would get awfully upset over. Leg warmers.

Now I learn that "leggings" are the bottom-half of a stretchy body-suit. Makes ordering stuff on Amazon more of an adventure, I must say.

Next thing you know, they'll be banning tutus from commercial flights, too.

[ProfessorGAC]

94. When I Met My Wife. . .

. . .leg warmers were actually part of fashion. (Late 70's)
She had them because she was doing ballet in some small (ok very small) production. A few of them didn't even have live music, just piped in symphonic music.

But, she had about 8 pair of those in different colors.

[Orsino]

95. If you can wear it on the street and not get ticketed/arrested...

...if it's clean, why the fuck isn't it good enough for our cattle cars in the sky?

[WinkyDink]

112. Actually, not such a great standard.

[Orsino]

113. Our cattle-cars in the sky aren't great, either. n/t

[WinkyDink]

114. Heh. I haven't flown this century.

[betsuni]

96. I used to use those passes given to me by a relative who'd worked for an airline since

the late '40s. She'd freak out about the dress code and call me numerous times to remind me to dress nice because other relatives hadn't followed the rules. She didn't know me well enough to know that I didn't even own a pair of jeans or pants or sweatsuits or leggings or shorts or sneakers. I was usually the most conservatively dressed person on the flight. What I learned from those first class or business class flights is that rich people are big babies. Also, that it's really true that it's hard to go back to coach once you've been where the attendants don't ignore and treat you like garbage. I can't, I won't. Rather stay home.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

101. "I know it when I see it" - Jacobellis v. Ohio

My grandfather on my mother's side worked for Canadian Pacific in California, I flew on empty planes with my grandparents without so much as a flight attendant in a suit and tie. As an adult flying in the jump seat on a charter flight I had to wear a pilot's shirt just so the customer wouldn't be the wiser that I was a stowaway, ironically it was a woman's shirt so I looked ridiculous. But a free flight is a free flight.

So rules are rules. But if these girls were wearing leggings under a dress or skirt, because you know... it's March and were otherwise presentable, the gate agent was being petty and insane, if they looked like they had just been jogging or they were so tight they could have been used as anatomical models well that is another matter.

[mahina]

106. Friend pass recipients need to follow the airlines rules for passes if they want free airfare.

Other, I guess.

[Adrahil]

108. Personally, I do not care, but...

The airline certainly has a right to have a dress code, especially for people flying gratis.

[yuiyoshida]

110. No Leggings with a Kilt?

or Robinhood: Men in Tights....

[WinkyDink]

111. I think the look is...not cool. Sue me.