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yodermon

(6,143 posts)
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 02:56 PM Mar 2017

Well now that's interesting: Looks like @jaredkushner just deleted all his tweets. UDPATE

Last edited Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:50 PM - Edit history (1)




Jester has deleted original tweet. He has posted an update here:



Someone correctly noted downthread that this account has never tweeted.
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Well now that's interesting: Looks like @jaredkushner just deleted all his tweets. UDPATE (Original Post) yodermon Mar 2017 OP
I suspect someone has them all - deleting is fruitless, young man. ksoze Mar 2017 #1
Jared Grifter FSogol Mar 2017 #2
Or, as the prosecutor will call it gratuitous Mar 2017 #3
That is a generally excepted rule of law after Nixon Wellstone ruled Mar 2017 #27
He's about to testify to the Senate comm. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #4
nothing like a senate inquiry to stir the memory..... spanone Mar 2017 #24
The penalty for perjury is an underrated force. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #29
Thats why we have www.backtweets.com isnt it @jaredkushner? nt pkdu Mar 2017 #5
His Twitter page says bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #6
I can't find any retweeted tweets Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #9
He's a new user who hasn't tweeted. n/t bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #11
He's had an account since late 2016. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #12
This story about Jared's tweeting habits was published a few minutes ago bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #13
The question asked was whether he has never tweeted OR has deleted any tweets he sent. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #14
from the article bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #16
Not if all they are doing is looking at today's screenshot. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #17
I jumped the gun on this one, see updated OP n/t yodermon Mar 2017 #18
Thanks for correcting! Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #19
Subscribing to a person's tweets is the best way to tell if they have ever tweeted. bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #20
Wrong. He has tweeted. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #21
Well, you should always use the WaybackMachine when searching for deleted tweets bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #22
I haven't used it for searching twitter before. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #31
Because you were exhausting... bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #33
Gotcha. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #34
Actually, that post was accurate about showing deleted tweets bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #35
Hmm bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #23
You'd have to ask the archivists how that works. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #30
I tried deleting a retweet yesterday, I couldn't LeftInTX Mar 2017 #25
Why couldn't you delete a retweet? bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #26
. No delete option on the retweet LeftInTX Mar 2017 #28
What I'm not sure about is whether if you tweet something and I retweet it, Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #32
I know very little about Twitter. Don't use it. Grammy23 Mar 2017 #7
Here's his WH Twitter page. Not exciting at all. no_hypocrisy Mar 2017 #8
He must spend alot of time in St. Petersburg, Florida LeftInTX Mar 2017 #36
Yep, his page is up, but no tweets. Fla Dem Mar 2017 #10
Caviar Comrade Kushner's cushy Russian capers now going occult Achilleaze Mar 2017 #15

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Or, as the prosecutor will call it
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 02:58 PM
Mar 2017

Destruction of evidence. Has anyone bothered to tell these nincompoops that just because you deleted a bunch of stuff, it isn't really gone forever, because that's not how the internet works?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
29. The penalty for perjury is an underrated force.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 04:45 PM
Mar 2017

He was in the room with Flynn and the Russian ambassador.


Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
9. I can't find any retweeted tweets
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:24 PM
Mar 2017

(Don't know if they disappear when you clean out your accoutn).

None of the easily accessible archive searches turned up any tweets from him. (He was tagged in lots of them.)

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
12. He's had an account since late 2016.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:27 PM
Mar 2017

I did find @ references to him in fall 2016. So he may not have tweeted - but he's not a new (as in just joined today) user. (Just checked - his join date is 4/2009)

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
13. This story about Jared's tweeting habits was published a few minutes ago
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:29 PM
Mar 2017

Actually, he tweets nothing.

President Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, plays a key role in the administration and is featured in a pair of big news headlines just today – his leading a special task force featuring tech industry luminaries, and his pending testimony before a Senate committee investigating Russian meddling in November’s election.

Kushner’s father-in-law would be tweeting up a storm on such a busy day.

Kushner tweets nothing, as seen in the screen capture above, just as he has done – not done? -- every single day since nonetheless establishing a Twitter account in April 2009.

Trump, famous perhaps for nothing more -- besides reality TV and being elected president -- joined Twitter a month before his son-in-law, and as of just past lunchtime today, had tweeted 34,700 times.

Current president: about a dozen tweets per day, on average, for eight years.

Presidential son-in-law: zero tweets per day over the same eight years.

(By way of comparison, I joined Twitter 7 months before Trump, consider myself a heavy user, and have tweeted 12,900 times, or roughly a third as often as the president.)

Kushner is by no means the only famous person to open a Twitter account and never tweet. Some see it as gobbling up CompanySucks domain names before anyone else has the chance.

At least Kushner does follow his father-in-law.

http://www.networkworld.com/article/3184700/internet/trump-son-in-law-jared-kushner-tweets-nothing-like-trump.html

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
14. The question asked was whether he has never tweeted OR has deleted any tweets he sent.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:36 PM
Mar 2017

I'm not sure the article answers that queston.

I have no idea what started the "Jared deleted his tweets" story - it may well be fake news, based on someone noticing a blank account and assuming that it had not been blank until recently. Or it may have been started by someone who had been watching his tweets and had seen prior tweets that vanished.

He joined in April 2009.
There are currently no tweets.
I didn't find any of his tweets retweeted (assuming they survive if he deleted the original)
I haven't found any in a quick search of archives I could find.

That suggests he hasn't tweeted at all (rather than deleted them). But it doesn't actually establish it - without a better archival search tool than I had access to on the fly.

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
16. from the article
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:39 PM
Mar 2017

"Presidential son-in-law: zero tweets per day over the same eight years."

Think that answers the question.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
17. Not if all they are doing is looking at today's screenshot.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:48 PM
Mar 2017

The point is that there is an allegation he deleted all of his tweets. If he sent 1000 tweeets, and deleted all of them, I believe the screenshot would look identical to someone who had not tweeted at all.

I just deletee two tweets, and my tweet count went down by two, as if I'd never tweeted them. I'm not going to delete all of them to test - but unless there is something bizarre about deleting the last tweet - you can delete back to a fresh slate that would look identical to someone who had never tweeted at all.


So, without more, there is no way to tell which of the two scenarios applies. I see nothing in the article suggesting they did anything beyond look at the currently public home page (e.g. talk to him, search the archives, etc. to see if his home page reflected reality)

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
19. Thanks for correcting!
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:56 PM
Mar 2017

But as to this sub-discussion, that fact that at one point he had made at least 3 tweets proves the point I was trying to make. A home page that shows no tweets does not prove he never tweeted.

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
20. Subscribing to a person's tweets is the best way to tell if they have ever tweeted.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:56 PM
Mar 2017

The Twitter app for Android notifies me when the people I subscribe to send out a tweet.

You're talking yourself into circles.

Dontcha' think if he had tweeted that someone on these interwebs would have screenshots to prove that he has been active on Twitter?



Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
21. Wrong. He has tweeted.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:59 PM
Mar 2017
http://web.archive.org/web/20140305055703/https://twitter.com/jaredkushner

I'm not talking myself in circles. I was attempting to logically establish the theory that has just been proven correct via a better archive tool than I have access to.

ETA: While subscribing gets you notification of tweets going forward, you can't retroactively subscribe to tweets that have been deleted. So that, as a suggestion to resolving this question, is just silly.
 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
22. Well, you should always use the WaybackMachine when searching for deleted tweets
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 04:06 PM
Mar 2017

Didn't you know that?

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
31. I haven't used it for searching twitter before.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:04 PM
Mar 2017

My extensive use of the wayback machine has been in tracing long-dead websites and retrieving prior art for patent litigation.

My understanding (apparently incorrect) was that tweets would not be archived there - so I had done a quick search for a similar site for tweets.

But - you're pretty snarky for someone who, until a post ago, insisted I was arguing in circles because there couldn't possibly be any deleted tweets.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
34. Gotcha.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:24 PM
Mar 2017

You're describing yourself through this post when you still believed that I was clueless and were trying to explain to me how silly I was. It was a tad exhausting.

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
35. Actually, that post was accurate about showing deleted tweets
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:27 PM
Mar 2017

after they are deleted on Twitter-- you just weren't bright enough to understand.

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
23. Hmm
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 04:10 PM
Mar 2017

The screenshot posted on the link you provided says that Kushner posted 3 tweets-- Why is it only showing 2 tweets?

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
30. You'd have to ask the archivists how that works.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:00 PM
Mar 2017

From my experience with archive.org, it it good - but does not necessarily capture everything depending on when it does its crawl.

My point is just that the screen capture today showing 0 tweets only reflects the number of outstanding tweets - not the total tweets ever made.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
32. What I'm not sure about is whether if you tweet something and I retweet it,
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:06 PM
Mar 2017

and you later delete your original tweet, whether the original tweet would still show up attached to my retweet.

I guess I could test it, since I have two accounts . . .

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
7. I know very little about Twitter. Don't use it.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:12 PM
Mar 2017

I know just enough to enjoy jokes by late night comics. Fortunately, there ARE people who understand way more than I do. And even I know that deleted does not mean GONE without a trace. How naive can Kushner be? Is he really that clueless?? These clods in the WH are dumb as a box of rocks.

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