Trump Deportation Force Just Shot A Legal Resident

[babylonsister]

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/03/27/trump-deportation-force-just-shot-legal-resident/


Trump ‘Deportation Force’ Just Shot A Legal Resident

By Benjamin Locke
Published on March 27, 2017


Trump’s immigration crackdown chalked up another casualty today, and it may have all been a big mistake.

A 53-year-old Chicago man was shot in the arm by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents attempting to make an arrest after they burst into his home at 6:20 a.m. in the Belmont Cragin neighborhood on the city’s Northwest side, according to the Chicago Tribune.

ICE put out a statement saying that they shot Felix Torres because he aimed a weapon at them. The ICE Office of Professional Responsibility will review the case.

However, there are conflicting reports. Torres daughter told NBC 5 Chicago that her father didn’t own a gun and that the ICE agents never identified themselves. They were apparently trying to arrest Torres’ son, also a legal resident.

Torres daughter said her father and everyone else in the house, which included eight people from three generations of the family, were in the U.S. legally. That was confirmed by a group called the People’s Response Team who said, “the family has lived in the home for at least 30 years.”

The wounded man was taken to a local hospital listed in serious condition.

The Chicago Police were not involved in the ICE raid, but have now put Torres and his son into custody while they investigate.

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel has declared Chicago a “sanctuary city,” but ICE can still conduct raids, and is supposed to communicate and coordinate what they are doing with the local police. In this case, police are still investigating.

It appears that, once again, a family in the U.S. legally who were longtime residents of a neighborhood were targeted in one of the immigration raids that have ramped up since Trump took office promising a crackdown on illegal immigrants who are criminals.

There is still an investigation to be done, but this appears to be another incident of overreach by ICE fueled by Trump’s anti-immigrant policies.

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Horrible and ugly thing happened on election day, the Russians stole the election

and put in office someone who hates and wants to harm and kill many of us, brown "us" especially.

Ugly ugly ugly

[LisaM]

2. I am horrified by the scab I've seen peeled back at ICE.

They don't even seem close to being professional. Curious as to the makeup of this workforce, because they certainly don't seem to have gone through extreme vetting.

[Blue_true]

10. The social affiliations of agents should be examined as soon as Democrats are back in control.

The Agency may be filled with racists or ethnic group haters. They avidly supported Trump leading up to the election.

[dalton99a]

12. Their endorsement really stood out.

[LisaM]

22. Especially since they weren't supposed to make one.

Who knows what that was all about.

[hatrack]

27. That was an employee union, not ICE itself

Not sure how many employees the union represents, but federal agencies don't endorse candidates.

[erronis]

32. And it's almost impossible to not join a union if the rest of the crowd that you work with does. eom

[malaise]

3. This is madness

[Ms. Toad]

4. .

[ProudLib72]

5. Someone explain to me why Torres and his son

are in custody while the ICE agent who shot him is at large?

WTF? X 1,000,000

[McCamy Taylor]

7. Maybe for their protection. They could become star witnesses against ICE.

[ProudLib72]

11. I hope that's true! nt

[MadLinguist]

24. That'ld kinda leave the daughter hanging out to dry, if true

I have trouble believing protection against ICE as the reason for Chicago Police Department to hold Torres and son.

[geek tragedy]

13. In Soviet America, people serve law enforcement nt

[McCamy Taylor]

6. Can Chicago prosecute ICE if they shoot a legal resident and then try to cover it up

by claiming "They had a gun"? I seem to recall that the LAPD tried to bust Bush Senior for Contra-Cocaine but messed it up.

Do ICE agents have protection against local prosecution? If so, what is to stop them from running their own Russian Mob enforcement operation in which they target people for expulsion/assassination for money--knowing that the Russian Mafia backed DOJ will back them if they get caught?

Is there anyone in organized crime who would have wanted the son dead? Recall that ICE arrested a woman as she was about to testify against her abusive lover. The lover tipped off ICE and got them to arrest her in order to protect himself. Lots of quid pro quo going on around here. How do we know that money isn't changing hands? Maybe ICE is now an organized racket in itself.

[mopinko]

17. city might not, but state might.

we have a kick ass ag here.

[lpbk2713]

8. They were caught up in their own hysteria.

They were expecting to find a bad guy so in their minds they were expecting to be confronted with a gun. Apparently they were wrong on both counts. Very unprofessional.

[spanone]

9. K&R...

[geek tragedy]

14. the jackbooted thugs in the American Gestapo really have been let off their leashes nt

[lunasun]

15. You burst in a door in Belmont cragin at 6:20 unannounced . Sunrise is at 6:40 , so basically it's

still dark out there. Hell yeah you might be met with a gun in your face. I might add that this area has a large immigrant including Hispanic, population but is not a transient area at all. It's an old bungalow and ranch area as you can see in the pics at this link
established area with homeowners
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChiCopWatch?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[mopinko]

18. yup. my first hood when i moved to the city.

the redliners managed to run out the older folks back in the 60's-70's. the blacks are coming, the blacks are coming.
but basically you couldnt find a more stable hood. 30 years is the norm.

and yeah, pretty lucky that agent didnt get his face blown off. as he so richly deserved.

[geek tragedy]

16. "Chicago police said they would 'investigate the underlying criminal offense.'"

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170327/belmont-cragin/police-shoot-wound-person-belmont-cragin

[mopinko]

19. chi cops dont touch immigration w a 100' pole.

and i suspect they arent real fond of ice.

i have a squatter right now who is likely here illegally. had a few visits from cpd (dude is a pro) the cops refused to even talk about that. they didnt even care that the guy had no id.

i suspect if charges can be brought, they will be.

[Solly Mack]

20. K&R

[NutmegYankee]

21. The hidden issue here - why are violent raids being conducted at all?

Just knock on the F'ing door like a civilized human being. If they can't do that and they just want to get their jollies smashing down innocent people's doors, I sincerely hope these fascist freaks get their ticket to hell sooner rather than later.

[FakeNoose]

33. Yes ICE should be abolished

There's no need for Gestapo-like force.

No need for midnight raids or door busting, or shooting unarmed citizens.
This totally uncalled for, it's frightening and completely undemocratic.

[Generic Other]

23. Appalling

Open season on anyone who is not white.

[dixiegrrrrl]

25. It is critical that such efforts to terrorize people here be met with strong pushback.

Latinos and Muslims and other groups are just the current excuse to get us all used to Gestapo tactics.
That must never happen.

[Foamfollower]

26. Have you got a major news source for this?

I'm sorry, but I've been burned by stories from Occupy Democrats before. I would not be surprised if this happened, but the source is too dodgy for me to share on Facebook and Twitter. The Chicsgo Tribune story they link simply does not corroborate the story Occupy Democrats are putting out.

Thanks!

[NutmegYankee]

34. Put Felix Torres into google news

And you will have 20+ major news sources, including the local broadcast affiliates.

[Foamfollower]

36. Right, but the Major sources report it differently

What the major news sources are reporting is far more ambiguous and leave much doubt as to the veracity of the claims made by Occupy Democrats. Yes, ICE should have never been there in the first place, but law enforcement makes errors like that all the time. If they had a warrant, as they claim, and if Torres pulled a gun on them, as they claim, the shooting was justified.

Because there are two stories and no hard evidence to back up either, I am not inclined to take what Occupy Democrats is saying with anything more than a grain of salt.

[NutmegYankee]

38. Major news sources report the children are US citizens. ICE couldn't have a warrant.

ICE has no authority over US citizens.

[Foamfollower]

39. You are wrong.

Warrants are issued for the wrong houses all the time. It happens. Law enforcement enforcing a warrant and facing a threat of deadly force, regardless of whether or not that warrant would be later dismissed due to errors, are fully within their power to use deadly force in answer to the threat.

The legitimate news sources reported the warrant was for a person other than Torres. The legitimate news sources say that Torres had a gun. If he indeed answered the door brandishing the gun, the shooting was completely legitimate.

Occupy Democrats has a history of pulling shit out of their ass and reporting it as news. I'll wait for a real news source one this.

[NutmegYankee]

40. Technically, a homeowner also has a lawful right to stop armed invaders into the home.

The aspects of "castle doctrine" defense shootings of officers are complex, but people have been released without charges. This is the inherent problem of violently smashing into the homes of the most armed citizenry in the world. The offensive aspect here is the officers appeared to be after the son, who is a US citizen. They have no authority over US citizens.

Personally, I oppose violent entry raids of homes, particularly for non-violent criminal warrants, and have absolutely no problem if an officer is killed doing so. It's the price a tyrant pays for not respecting freedom.

[dchill]

28. K&R.

[benld74]

29. Gee same day Sessions spoke bout the

Evils sanctuary cities are leashing on its
Citizens by not helping fing
Illegals!

[cstanleytech]

30. I hope they sue the shit out of the agents. nt

[Ahpook]

31. Guaranteed that a gun was not pulled on the agents

It's very sad to see what has happened to this country.

It's always been a pain in the ass, but this is crazy

[NutmegYankee]

35. ABC News (Local) says the man ICE had a warrant for is a US Citizen.

http://abc7chicago.com/news/man-shot-by-ice-agent-in-belmont-cragin/1820175/

A spokesman for ICE said that ICE Homeland Security Investigations agents were attempting to arrest a person when a second person pointed a weapon toward the agents and as a result, an agent fired his gun and wounded the man.

"Really sad and you know, I'm worried about my dad mostly. He's the one in the hospital. And my baby, we come out, like, with no shoes, nothing, we didn't know what was going on, we was sleeping," said Carmen Torres, daughter of the man who was shot.

Torres said ICE agents told her they were after one of her brothers, who is a U.S. citizen. She denied that her father had a weapon.

"My dad doesn't got no guns. My dad just went to see what's going on and that's why they shot him. He just opened the door and they shot him," Torres said.

Another Link

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/officer-involved-shooting-reported-on-nw-side/

Authorities said the 53-year-old pointed a weapon at U.S. Department of Homeland Security Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents as they tried to arrest his son. But an attorney for the man’s family says he was unarmed, and that the agents had no grounds to detain his 23-year-old son, a U.S.-born citizen.

“I really don’t know what [ICE agents] were doing there, and I don’t think they do either,” attorney Thomas Hallock said. “It’s bizarre.”

The shooting happened about 6:15 a.m. at the home in the 6100 block of West Grand, authorities said.

Trump's SS

[JI7]

37. This is why Trump Supporters Continue to Support Him

[struggle4progress]

41. Questions From Chicago Alderman, Attorney

March 27, 2017 9:56 PM By Jim Williams

... Torres’ attorney, Thomas Hallock, says .... “He was shot immediately, or almost immediately, upon opening his door to see what the commotion was outside of his residence” ...

A source tells CBS 2 Torres is the father of the man agents were seeking to arrest.

It’s not known why immigration agents went to the house in the first place. ICE isn’t saying. Attorney Hallock said Torres is a permanent resident and that his children are U.S. citizens.

Hallock says it’s possible ICE made a mistake or had bad information. Torres, who is at Stroger Hospital, has not been charged ...

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/03/27/ice-raid-shooting-draws-questions-from-chicago-alderman-attorney/

[struggle4progress]

42. Man Shot by ICE Agents

By Susan Carlson and Chris Hush

... Family members of Torres claim he did not have a gun and is in the United States legally. His daughter, Carmen Torres, told NBC 5 the family was not told why agents were at the home Monday. She said her father was shot as three children, including a 5-month-old, stood nearby.

"My dad doesn't have any guns, my dad just went to see what's going on," Torres said. "He just opened the door and they just shot him."

Her family has lived legally at the home for nearly 30 years, she said ...

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/1-Shot-in-Belmont-CraginNeighborhood--on-NW-Side-Police-417181913.html

[struggle4progress]

43. Agents reportedly acknowledge they targeted wrong person

BY Chris Sommerfeldt
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Tuesday, March 28, 2017, 1:30 AM

... ICE officials acknowledged to [link NAinfo.com|DNAinfo.com] that Torres was not the person they came to detain, declining to reveal further details ...

ICE would not immediately confirm who agents were trying to arrest in the raid.

Local politician Carlos Ramirez-Rosa blasted the raid, and accused ICE of "routinely" violating "the American people's constitutional rights" ...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ice-agents-shoot-chicago-man-acknowledge-wrong-person-article-1.3011036