The GOTeaHadists don’t like the ACA Tax for not having Insurance

[KatChatter]

OK that is understandable so the fix is get rid of the tax penalty, just change federal law requiring hospitals to treat all who walk in or arrive for treatment to REQUIRING either Health Insurance or CASH ONLY (no CC or checks) in order to receive treatment.

No insurance, no cash, TS your problem now, accept responsibility for you actions.

Problem solved.

[no_hypocrisy]

1. That I don't get.

If they already have insurance, then they won't be paying "the tax".

If they have no insurance, "the tax" is less money they'll be paying for the uninsured in emergency rooms.

[KatChatter]

2. Logic and reason does not work with them

don't even try to understand them because you can't

[BumRushDaShow]

3. Exactly.

I expect the meme-crafters are self-employed or have a few staff who they don't want to or refuse to insure. It's understandable that many small businesses are barely operating on margins and can't afford it but the ACA is supposed to majorly reduce that burden over the next couple years.

[rgbecker]

4. My brother was at the Supreme Court on Thursday.

He thinks the teabaggers don't like Obamacare because of the "Death Panels".

I can't figure out why they are against it as most are on Medicare or have insurance through their workplace. My brother may be on to something.

The percentage that would have to pay the tax/penalty is so small it does not even start to explain the strong opposition.

Just saying.

[Ruby the Liberal]

9. They are these people:

[doc03]

5. One question I have is, if the tax penalty is less than health insurance

why would anyone buy health insuance?

[Poll_Blind]

6. IMO, there is a high likelihood that Insurance comapnies will start going after the...

...provisions in the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA). What does that mean in regards to your comment? Well, the health insurance companies are neither stupid or impatient and they are absolutely fine playing the "long game". While some may very well choose to take the penalty (especially right now) as opposed to paying out to purchase the minimum "bronze coverage", as we approach 2014, I think it's very likely that the other shoe(s) are going to drop- stripping out all existing beneficial legislation which might keep Americans from actually signing on.

Except for the additional services (I'm talking about preventative screenings) which health care corporations will provide under "bronze" (minimum) coverage, the remainder of bronze coverage is expected to be very similar to the emergency room "coverage" EMTALA mandates hospitals to provide. Now here's the tricky part- these names like bronze and silver and whatever other precious metals they want to call these plans...as far as I've seen these are not concretely defined. They are, in fact defined as "actuarial values".

My point is, do expect that people absolutely will pay the tax instead of getting coverage. The insurance companies know this. But expect those insurance companies to cry foul and for legislators to react, further cutting off the options of taxpayers to continue to use that avenue.

This is the long game, doc03. Lots of moves left and lots of rules to change.

PB

[Motown_Johnny]

8. Why do people buy health insurance now when there is no penalty?

No penalty is lots less than paying for insurance.


Insurance has value, that is why people pay for it.

[Motown_Johnny]

7. The answer is a mandatory public option instead of a penalty/tax.

That money should just be a buy in to Medicaid or Medicare instead of a tax that goes to the general fund.


Then everyone would have insurance and you are not being forced to buy from a private company. The conservatives don't want that because a vast number of people will choose to do this instead of paying for private insurance.



The problem with your solution is this.

What happens the next time a bus has an accident and a number of people are seriously injured? Do those people need to prove they have insurance or cough up cash before they can have their lives saved? If not then what do you do about the people who's lives you save but turn out to not have insurance?

We need everyone in and nobody out, nothing else works.