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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 01:12 AM Mar 2017

Palmer: FBI arrests ten people in New York City with alleged ties to Donald Trump and Russian mafia

http://www.palmerreport.com/news/fbi-arrests-ten-people-in-new-york-city-with-alleged-ties-to-donald-trump-and-russian-mafia/2090/



The FBI and NYPD Joint Organized Crime Task Force have arrested ten men in New York City today on charges of running a racketeering conspiracy as part of an organized crime effort. What’s notable is that these men and their crime family have alleged ties to the Russian mafia and to Donald Trump – raising the question of whether this move was made as part of the FBI’s ongoing investigation into Trump and Russia.

The ten men arrested today are associates of the Bonanno organized crime family (source: NBC New York). But a bit of digging by the Democratic Coalition Against Trump has revealed that a lawsuit alleges that same crime family is partnered with Russian businessman Felix Sater (link). Sater has a long history of financial ties to both Donald Trump and the Russian mafia, and in fact has done prison time for his Russian mafia ties (source: Esquire). So it’s not difficult to draw a straight line from today’s arrests to Trump and Russia. But what is the FBI suddenly up to?

If today’s ten FBI-NYPD arrests are indeed related to the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation, as the connections suggest, it may be an instance of rounding up the lower level mafia associates in order to see which of them is willing to cut a deal by selling out their bosses. This could also be a sign that the FBI is further along in its Trump-Russia investigation than had been believed, having completed its phase of gathering information externally, in favor of a phase of actively prompting little fish to flip on bigger fish, presumably leading all the way up to Trump and his direct associates.
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Palmer: FBI arrests ten people in New York City with alleged ties to Donald Trump and Russian mafia (Original Post) flamingdem Mar 2017 OP
Oh boy. moondust Mar 2017 #1
Need to put popcorn on my shopping list........ n/t Tess49 Mar 2017 #2
Time to learn Russian Mafia lingo flamingdem Mar 2017 #3
Yikes. moondust Mar 2017 #5
That's how I feel Hekate Mar 2017 #65
Years ago I saw a documentary about Russian lingo Orrex Mar 2017 #45
Haha indeed. nt Lucky Luciano Mar 2017 #60
Yep. That the future of Our Democracy now rests in the paws of the Sukis is damn scary. Volaris Mar 2017 #63
WOW! Cha Mar 2017 #4
Palmer is adding a bit of excitement to the story flamingdem Mar 2017 #6
Holy Shite! sheshe2 Mar 2017 #7
Rounding up the Blatnoi flamingdem Mar 2017 #8
Yep. sheshe2 Mar 2017 #9
If there is a Trump connection here democrank Mar 2017 #10
Alwight I'll tawk I tell ya!! flamingdem Mar 2017 #11
There is a strong one with Sater Warpy Mar 2017 #26
I have to concur with the above poster pecosbob Mar 2017 #12
FBI's NY office is Trumplandia Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #13
I think it was Giuliani and Erik Prince. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2017 #24
According to Malcolm Nance, the spy hunters are a different breed. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #25
Counter intelligence is a different department KittyWampus Mar 2017 #43
But this wasn't counter intelligence Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #50
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2017 #64
Or it could be trump rounding up his enemies? ecstatic Mar 2017 #14
That is a terrifying thought flamingdem Mar 2017 #15
Why do Palmer's links to 'supporting 'facts' rarely state what he says? jmg257 Mar 2017 #16
Wonder if they are rounding them up to prevent murders of Trump witnesses. Kablooie Mar 2017 #17
True, another one down today flamingdem Mar 2017 #19
Another one today? Blue_Roses Mar 2017 #28
is there a link to this story? bdamomma Mar 2017 #35
Here BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #38
thanks flamingdem Mar 2017 #56
Serious questions bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #18
In this case he's reporting on an event flamingdem Mar 2017 #20
Looks like NBC News-NY has reported story ButSeeYa Mar 2017 #23
That article only talks about the arrests of members and associates of the Bonanno crime family. drm604 Mar 2017 #30
I agree. TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2017 #51
This story is more full of Russian slang than "A Clockwork Orange" DFW Mar 2017 #21
How credible is this source? murielm99 Mar 2017 #22
Other sources are reporting it accurately, it's a crime family mythology Mar 2017 #37
Googled for other sources -- only found Palmer report for recent FBI related activity ATL Ebony Mar 2017 #27
Well, at least according to Palmer ATL Ebony Mar 2017 #41
You can generally tie the mob to any union business HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #29
unions and the mob. the untold part of the story of union decline in this country. mopinko Mar 2017 #33
You can support your premise with objective rather than anecdotal evidence, yes? LanternWaste Mar 2017 #46
In a court of law, which is more valid? HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #47
Even USAToday is reporting on the connections between DT Alice11111 Mar 2017 #31
flamingdem Johni Imtiaz Mar 2017 #32
Welcome to du. How is posting about mafia/trump arrests "nice and decent post"? uppityperson Mar 2017 #49
More than enough cause for the FBI to subpoena the tax returns, if they haven't already. randome Mar 2017 #34
That should make for some fascinating reading flamingdem Mar 2017 #48
republicans in mourning today Achilleaze Mar 2017 #36
Well, that explains the Twitter rants... tallahasseedem Mar 2017 #39
Don't drink the tea. lpbk2713 Mar 2017 #40
There are more trusted media sources than Palmer's hype and donate domain. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #42
I could not find this story on Google? kentuck Mar 2017 #44
Slater also has a long history of working WITH the FBI, and US Attorneys like Loretta Lynch.. jmg257 Mar 2017 #52
I like mine without Turbineguy Mar 2017 #53
Get Nunes up there right away Zambero Mar 2017 #54
The noose tightens ghostsinthemachine Mar 2017 #55
Palmer again jodymarie aimee Mar 2017 #57
Agreed. Bad source. n/t FSogol Mar 2017 #58
It's not easy to be in real estate in NYC and not have some connection to organized crime. George II Mar 2017 #59
Sopranos NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #61
kick for visibility triron Mar 2017 #62

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
3. Time to learn Russian Mafia lingo
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 01:21 AM
Mar 2017


Here's lingo from Russian gangsters:

Blatnoi/blatnye: a catch-all term used by hoodlums to refer to themselves and their ('blatnoi' way of life (via)

Bratki: brothers

Brodyagi: a criminal caste below vor, vagabonds

Derbanit: to racket, to destroy property (via)

Grokhnut: to shoot; literally to bang (sound); one of several slang words for killing; others below.

Mafyia: mafia

Mussor: cop (literally garbage)

Nayekhat: raid/apply gang pressure, extort

Obut: to deceive, to cheat

Pakhan: crime boss

Ponitka: unwritten law, code of thieves

Posadit na pika: to stab to death, to cut with with a knife (literally, "to put on a pike&quot (via)

Prishli mne kaputsu: literally, "send me a cabbage," this term means you are owed a favor

Razboiniki: gang warriors

Razborka: to use force to settle a conflict

Roskrychivat': to scheme, commit fraud, etc.

Shalit: make mischief

Strelka: a sitdown between two or more mob groups

Suka (sing.) / suki (plural): Literally bitch, it refers to a member of the mafiya who snitches to the government.

Torpedo: contract killer (via)

Vor v zakonye: Thief in law, like a "wiseguy"

Vorovskoi mir: Thieves' world

vzyat: to harass/rob; literally take, as in vzyat lariok (hit up a kiosk). Also means in slang, to take bribes.

Zakazat: to order a hit

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
63. Yep. That the future of Our Democracy now rests in the paws of the Sukis is damn scary.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 11:51 PM
Mar 2017

Go slow, FBI and IC community, and get this one right for us. I want EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE of these racist traitors behind bars or barred from Public Service for the rest of their lives (and don't kid yourself, this happened because they're pissed that a black man beat them at their own game for 8 years. They SOLD OUT THEIR OWN COUNTRY, just to Make America White Again.).

Fuck em. We DESERVE heads on spikes for this.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
26. There is a strong one with Sater
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 03:43 AM
Mar 2017

but I doubt if they'll get a peep out of that buzzard. The only way they'll get the small fish to talk is to convince at least one of them that one of the big fish gave them up. Even then, it's unlikely, the Russian mob is a scary bunch.

I'm afraid they'll have to build their case without dramatic confessions.

 

Jonny Appleseed

(960 posts)
13. FBI's NY office is Trumplandia
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 01:59 AM
Mar 2017

They're the ones that conspired with Giuliani and Flynn to prompt Comey to send that letter to congress. The investigation is still ongoing into certain agents and the illegal back and forth of information between them and Giuliani last November.

So not to rain on anyone's parade, but yeah...

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
24. I think it was Giuliani and Erik Prince.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 03:30 AM
Mar 2017

I agree. And if this turns out to be nothing, can we please stop taking Palmerreport seriously?

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
25. According to Malcolm Nance, the spy hunters are a different breed.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 03:32 AM
Mar 2017

but this seems more like organized crime agents.

And it seems hyped.

So we shall see.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
14. Or it could be trump rounding up his enemies?
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:01 AM
Mar 2017

Incredibly, Trump still has access to (and control of?) the FBI via his lap dog/boy, Sessions.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
16. Why do Palmer's links to 'supporting 'facts' rarely state what he says?
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:12 AM
Mar 2017

Man he does like to stretch stuff from others opinions of reports...so annoying!

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
17. Wonder if they are rounding them up to prevent murders of Trump witnesses.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:17 AM
Mar 2017

Since Putin is killing everyone connected with Trump over there, maybe these are the guys that Trump would use over here.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
19. True, another one down today
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:20 AM
Mar 2017

in Russia. It's crazy and would happen to these guys if they're involved and likely to sing.

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
18. Serious questions
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:19 AM
Mar 2017

Is this Palmer guy ever right?

Why should I believe some guy who asks me to donate to his website at the end of his news articles? lol

Sounds more like clickbait to me-- Let's write up a snazzy headline so all the anti-Trump people will share my story.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
20. In this case he's reporting on an event
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:21 AM
Mar 2017

We'll see tomorrow if there are other reports, in this case he can be faster than news sources but always read him w plenty of salt

drm604

(16,230 posts)
30. That article only talks about the arrests of members and associates of the Bonanno crime family.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 04:25 AM
Mar 2017

The crimes mentioned are typical Mafia fare; loansharking, illegal gambling, robbery, and extortion.

It does not mention Trump, Russia, or Russians.

The Palmer Report may be adding unsubstantiated spin to the story.

DFW

(54,397 posts)
21. This story is more full of Russian slang than "A Clockwork Orange"
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:34 AM
Mar 2017

Well, not quite, but definitely on the way!

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
37. Other sources are reporting it accurately, it's a crime family
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:52 AM
Mar 2017

Palmer is the one connecting it to Trump and Palmer has absolutely no credibility.

ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
27. Googled for other sources -- only found Palmer report for recent FBI related activity
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 03:49 AM
Mar 2017

Palmer Report seems desperate for relevancy -- maybe they should contact MSM about this as well.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
29. You can generally tie the mob to any union business
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 04:05 AM
Mar 2017

For instance, the iron workers are generally the construction guys that build skyscrapers. There is a someone with the right last name on their payroll. Trump builds skyscrapers.

https://www.unionfacts.com/employee/Iron_Workers/JAMES/BONANNO

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
33. unions and the mob. the untold part of the story of union decline in this country.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:39 AM
Mar 2017

i was a union carpenter in my youth, and it was apparent to all that the union dues were way to high. to allow for some skimming, we all assumed.

especially in construction, they were built w thuggery. it wasnt just the teamsters. we were regaled by stories from our instructors in the classroom half of the program about how they policed strikes. some thought they were funny. some of us wondered just who were hitched to.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
46. You can support your premise with objective rather than anecdotal evidence, yes?
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:25 AM
Mar 2017

You can support your premise with objective rather than anecdotal evidence, yes?

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
31. Even USAToday is reporting on the connections between DT
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 04:41 AM
Mar 2017

and the Russian mob.
http://usat.ly/2nJOUCJ

Geez, I wish this were out there 5 months ago.
At least Comey probably knew it, but he was so busy with those damned duplicate emails.
As far as rhe Russian interference in our elections even Dick Cheney called it , as "act of war."
Comey didn't tell us about that either...just tbose pesky emails.

Comey for jail.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
49. Welcome to du. How is posting about mafia/trump arrests "nice and decent post"?
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:21 AM
Mar 2017

I'm confused about what you mean.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
34. More than enough cause for the FBI to subpoena the tax returns, if they haven't already.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:45 AM
Mar 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
48. That should make for some fascinating reading
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:10 AM
Mar 2017

The only truth you'll get from Trump is in the returns, and even that is 70% fiction

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
39. Well, that explains the Twitter rants...
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:57 AM
Mar 2017

Please let this run up the chain soon so he can just go already...

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
42. There are more trusted media sources than Palmer's hype and donate domain.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:14 AM
Mar 2017

He is hyper-partisan, to be sure, and uses clickbait writing to draw in readers to his donate button. There is nothing wrong with getting paid to be an investigative reporter, but it is also important to recognize who is in the genre and who is not. At least the people with donate buttons are not hiding their partisan political income sources.

Here is a better place to donate:








More on these good fellas:




jmg257

(11,996 posts)
52. Slater also has a long history of working WITH the FBI, and US Attorneys like Loretta Lynch..
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:37 AM
Mar 2017

]http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/what-the-cia-and-fbi-knew-about-trump-before-2016/

Sater began his professional life as a New York City stock broker; spent 15 months in prison for stabbing a man in the face with a broken wine glass in a bar fight; and then became involved in a pump and dump penny stock scheme in association with the Gambino and Genovese crime families. When he and his associates were arrested in the securities fraud scheme in 1998, Sater tried to make a deal to save himself.
...
The federal government also kept Sater on as a cooperating witness for fully 11 years before finally sentencing him in 2009 for the plea deal in 1998. In a $42 million securities fraud case, Sater received no jail time, was not forced to pay restitution and was fined a mere $25,000. In other words, he walked away from the crime with close to no punishment. The controversy over the government's secrecy in the Sater case, as well as his minimal punishment, got enough attention that it eventually bubbled up from the criminal courts to the governmental and political realm. During her 2015 confirmation hearings, Attorney General Loretta Lynch was asked about the propriety of the government's cooperation with Sater, in part because she had been the US Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, where Sater's case was adjudicated.

In response to questions from Sen. Orin Hatch, Lynch wrote (emphasis added):
The defendant in question, Felix Sater, provided valuable and sensitive information to the government during the course of his cooperation, which began in or about December 1998. For more than 10 years, he worked with prosecutors from my Office, the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York and law enforcement agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other law enforcement agencies, providing information crucial to national security and the conviction of over 20 individuals, including those responsible for committing massive financial fraud and members of La Cosa Nostra. For that reason, his case was initially sealed.
...
The federal government knew who Sater was, his ties to the criminal underworld, business ties into that world in the former Soviet Union, etc. They also had to know of his deep and longstanding association with Donald Trump, his key role in numerous Trump projects during the first decade of this century and his role arranging financing for these projects. We don't know if the federal government had specific knowledge of the details of these business transactions or whether or how deeply Donald Trump was reliant on capital from Russia and more generally the murky world of oligarchs and underworlds that Sater is clearly immersed in and from which he appeared to draw investment capital. But they likely would have suspected as much, at least that Trump had uncomfortably close ties to someone like Sater.


He is a real winner that Slater guy. He could definitely have some good stuff on trump, and he's played all sides before to get off easy.



Zambero

(8,964 posts)
54. Get Nunes up there right away
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:46 AM
Mar 2017

A long Uber ride gets him there, and the driver can just let Nunes off at some undisclosed location where he can proceed to "enter the grounds" and then conduct a ludicrous news conference thereafter. What the heck, he cleared his schedule. No hearings, and no committee meetings on top. Does he have anything better to do than act like the usual (useful?) idiot that he is ?

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
57. Palmer again
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 11:20 AM
Mar 2017

we got rid of you during the recounts...go bye bye....not a good source, just a blogger like us.

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
61. Sopranos
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:32 PM
Mar 2017

Right out of the Sopranos when Paulie & Christopher tried to kill a Russian mobster & got lost in the woods. The Russian got away & the 2 morons lost their car was winter, & the Russian they had in the trunk & thought was dead, clobbered them . Funny episode.

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