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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow Ironic Is It That the Same People Who Are Adamantly Opposed to Releasing Trump's Tax Returns
have voted to give everyone access to everyone else's Internet browsing histories? It appears that personal privacy exists only for the one person who seems to have a lot to hide, and whose financial history affects all of us. Every day, living in our democracy gets crazier and crazier. Damn!
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)underpants
(182,824 posts)Spot on
FakeNoose
(32,641 posts)CousinIT
(9,245 posts)lark
(23,102 posts)Hair Furor is leading the way down the path of treachery and way too many Repugs are saying, Heil Drumpf, for their own personal profit and to hurt the working class.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)that we are a country of great contradictions. Maybe he is just sugar coating it. Hopefully the resistance will change that.
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)moflower
(7 posts)This was passed with 51 votes. Who voted for cloture. Why wasn't this filibustered?
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)90-percent
(6,829 posts)We've been building up a pretty spiffy OLIGARCHY for the last forty or fifty years. Now we will be transitioning into full blown KLEPTOCRACY in the next few months.
All it will take to implement all the police state laws and apparatus to impose tyranny is another big terrorist attack or maybe somebody deranged in the world will use nukes?
Who cares, anyway. The world will incinerate if we don't do something to stop climate change. I think our time window left is TEN YEARS.
-90% Jimmy
IndianaDave
(612 posts)but I'm still optimistic that so many are resisting these trends, especially now that Trump has become a catalyst for action and change. I hope your scenario is defeated by good people and smart policies. But I really appreciate your contribution to the discussion, 90! - Dave
90-percent
(6,829 posts)But we all got to do what Frank Zappa attributed to his success:
"First, don't sop. Second, keep going."
And he persevered, and he failed repeatedly, but his faith in himself kept him going. Truly an inspiration in my life for the last 36 years.
We are making a difference SHOWING UP and I'm 63, so I feel I should get beat up by the US gestapo for the cause of our Democracy. Dickheads my age having been sending desperate kids off to play military roulette for stupidity and lies. We should return the sacrifice.
I've been "showing up" since 9/11 and carrying a sign at the Sept 10, 2011, Hartford state capital that read:
TEABAGGERS ARE ASTROTURF PUPPETS OF FASCIST CORPORATIONS.
I did not know at the time "teabaggers" was an offensive pejorative. HONEST.
Most told me I was an agent of either ACORN or GEORGE SOROS.
And my sign didn't go viral! Met some nice types. I try to be open minded and there's some aspects of REAL Conservative that aren't that bad, in terms of running a government. Don't ask me to name any, however!
welcome to DU.
Make them open up Gary US 30 dragway there. It still exists!
-90% Jimmy
calimary
(81,300 posts)3_Limes
(363 posts)"It's the golden rule - the ones with the gold make the rules."
MrPurple
(985 posts)shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)It seems to be the new talking point for every destructive action the Republicans are taking. It's "government overreach" if you don't want your ISP to sell your browsing history without your consent, and certainly without compensation. It's "government overreach" if you want clean air to breathe and clean water to drink. It's "government overreach" if you don't want government contracts let to outfits that fuck over their employees with labor law violations.
IndianaDave
(612 posts)"Commonsense reform." As we know, it's all BS!
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)How fucking stupid are the people of this country (ie republicans).
These fuckers are voting to allow ISP provides to turn a buck off of us and THEIR STUPID ASSES to keep our information private.
And, mention this to any republican rank and file and they will babble over regulation, government over reach, etc.
JHC ...
Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)to all of the right-wing groups that have spent years on seemingly endless fishing expeditions trying to get all kinds of records on the Clintons, Obamas, etc to distort, smear them with? But, hey, no worries about Trump because he's one of their own and will sign their crazy s**t into law, right?
IndianaDave
(612 posts)Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)undocumented presidents, not so much.
How do they reconcile this with their paranoid tinfoil hat wearing voters?
kentuck
(111,098 posts)When the Tea Party was raising hell about the lady from the IRS not treating the conservative groups fairly, did they?
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Protect the wealthy while scamming the poor.
However, is Pence's AOL account info being sold? I wonder if they provided lists of people whose info should not be sold.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)On another thread, ppl are speculating why he's Manafort's VP choice.
My guess, something to do w/Trumprussia
Reports are that Pence was the one person on the transition team that Manafort called often.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)what a crock
TEB
(12,856 posts)But then what should I expect toomey is scum
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)...WikiLeaks has not found the wherewithal to locate and publish even one of Drumpf's tax returns.
By now, it's safe to assume that they're either totally owned and operated by Putin and his cabal, or ...
Fuck it: their credibility is totally vacated.
I'm also losing any hope in Anonymous: they're nothing other than a bunch of Internet wankers in Guy Fawkes masks.
I've grow weary of these posers and fart-arounds parading their puerile boasts. There's too much at stake here.
It's long past time for them to put up or shut-the-fuck up!
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Just like, "Small government, get gov out of our business," as they put their noses into women's uteruses
Norbert9
(494 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,927 posts)THERE'S MONEY to be made from the guys in the halls with the brown cases stuffed with cash.
Drumpf's income tax return - (as our "fine" reps would say: NAH, ain't gonna' help my wallet one bit!)
IndianaDave
(612 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)it's okay to put these here? If not, happy to delete (not providing link, unless requested to!)
So by and large..."do not want!":
Republicans claim the FCCs rules confuse customers because they only cover internet providers and not websites like Google and Facebook.
What exactly was confusing?
3 posted on March 29, 2017 1:21:49 PM CDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Lorianne
Trump should VETO IT.
4 posted on March 29, 2017 1:24:58 PM CDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Lorianne
Imagine the blackmail coming out soon.
Dear Reverand Smith, you records show you visited HotNakedBabes.com 5 times in 2008. Please send us 1000 bitcoins to keep this from going public!
5 posted on March 29, 2017 1:25:19 PM CDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat)
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To: SeekAndFind
The guests on the fox show talking about this made it sound like he would sign it
6 posted on March 29, 2017 1:28:07 PM CDT by Bob434
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To: MNDude
Exactly- that is what hte guests were speaking about on fox news Happening Now show-
They made the case that a woman involved in a divorce could get damaging info on her husband without him knowing about it or giving permission now- or vice versa- and that hackers and identity thieves could access very personal info through the ISPs who will now sell the info to the highest bidders-
IF this goes through- its gonna be bad-
IF it does go through- watch how fast the liberals all of a sudden become so concerned about privacy again- Right now they are tryign to cover up obama spying on Americans- but if this new bill goes through- you will see them all of a sudden feinting fro mthe vapors over Internet privacy violations lol
7 posted on March 29, 2017 1:32:42 PM CDT by Bob434
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To: SeekAndFind
THis vote removes a regulation (that has not even gone into effect yet) that stops ISPs from selling your data while allowing websites/browsers to continue to do so...
8 posted on March 29, 2017 1:38:17 PM CDT by Voluntaryist
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To: SeekAndFind
Trump should VETO IT.
Trump MUST veto it!
9 posted on March 29, 2017 1:38:20 PM CDT by gdani
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To: Lorianne
What did the senate do? They cancelled a pending change that would have required users of ISPs to specifically opt into any collection or sale of data for marketing purposes. Presently, you can opt out of such programs.
The vote was to not change the system and push through a rule to increase the value of Google and Facebook which wouldn't have to get separate affirmative permission.
It should be noted that almost every ISPs TOS outlines what marketing data can be collected and sold and when you approve the TOS, you approved that collection.
TLDR: They cancelled a future rule, nothing changed from before the senate action to today.
10 posted on March 29, 2017 1:41:23 PM CDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Bob434
People committed suicide over that joke of a web site Ashley Madison.
Imagine every web site everyone ever visited becoming available to the world.
IndianaDave
(612 posts)luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)so freaky that nothing else they do has bothered him until now, but invading HIS privacy has pissed him off .
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)Cha
(297,275 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,723 posts)Especially when it begins to affect their family members.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)If they want our internet history open to more people and groups, then let's make it something they don't want to see.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028870061