Was Jill Stein PAID by PUTIN?

[LaydeeBug]

I'm reading the dossier, and it sure looks like they were flying her to the Kremlin and shit. Is she a Russian operative?

[Gothmog]

1. Yes she was in bed with Russia-a vote for Stein was a vote for Russia and Trump

[KWR65]

2. Do you have a reference for this? Is this the tabloids printing it or something?

YMMV.

[shrike]

4. Stein is mentioned in the Steele dossier available on-line

She is described as "sympathetic" to the Russians.

[LanternWaste]

11. How is 'YMMV' relevant to citing references or sources?

How is 'YMMV' relevant to citing references or sources? Or something.

[LaydeeBug]

14. What does YMMV mean?

I am reading the Steele Dossier. It's everywhere.

[OriginalGeek]

20. Your Mileage May Vary

Meaning you are free to interpret the information how you see fit or you may have gotten a different interpretation of the info from the person who posted it.

I'm of the same mind as the above poster though who asked how a fact can vary...it either is or it isn't facts.


It started from car commercials (well, I should say that's where I first heard it) who proudly proclaimed the bestest gas mileage for their vehicles but with the caveat that your mileage may vary depending on how you drive the car and under what conditions. It was kind of an escape hatch for them when, inevitably, you don't get the gas mileage they claim you should. Since you actually have to get around town and stuff rather than light-foot it on a test roller your mileage is almost guaranteed to vary.

[LaydeeBug]

37. I see. Thank you. nt

[jmg257]

29. Pg 15...Steele Dossier...

- Kremlin engaging with several high profile US players, including STEIN, PAGE and (former DIA Director
Michael Flynn and funding their recent visits to Moscow

4. Speaking separately, also in early August 2016, a Kremlin official involved in US relations commented
on aspects ofthe Russian operation to date. its goals have been threefold- US actors
how Moscow could help them,- gathering relevant intelligence; and creating and disseminating
compromising information (?kompromat?). This had involved the Kremlin supporting various US political
figures, including funding indirectly their recent visits to Moscow. S/he named a delegation from
Lyndon Larouche, presidential candidate Jiill STEIN of the Green Party; TRUMP foreign policy adviser

pg 15

[True Blue American]

35. Jill was in the picture with Putin and Flynn sitting at a round table.

[hrmjustin]

3. I would not be surprised. Jill Stein is not our friend and has

a pro-Putin agenda.

[HoneyBadger]

5. Check her taxes in 2019

[caroldansen]

13. Lol. lol. lol. lol. That's a good one.

[shraby]

8. Wake up and smell the coffee. As long as a KGB member is in charge of Russia,

that shit will not end. Putin wants to make Russia great again so he can keep stealing it's resources.

[L. Coyote]

9. Are you here to slam Obama?

[Kolesar]

40. He survived the alert on his post

I was on the jury and voted no on the alert.

[L. Coyote]

41. Alerted on first post, not a good sign.

Enjoy your stay!

[Qutzupalotl]

10. Was Obama paid by Putin? No.

An agent is someone paid to perform some action. Obama, if anything, opposed Putin's aims. Trump is doing his bidding. Stein may have.

[Qutzupalotl]

18. Hillary Clinton exposed vote rigging in Russia

which undermined Putin's credibility at home and infuriated him. Stopping Clinton at any cost was his number one goal. Stein was a useful pawn in that strategy, and he boosted Stein's campaign on his RT propaganda network.

[Qutzupalotl]

24. Sanctions were crippling Russia.

Clinton would have continued the sanctions. Guess who wants to lift them.

Apparently that's worth a hefty share in Rosneft.

The personal vendetta was likely the bigger motivator, but since Putin saw an opportunity to install a puppet regime here, he went all in.

[0rganism]

34. let's speculate on the inner workings of an ex-KGB dictator

what seems clear to me is this move by Putin is NOT utilitarian in nature the way regional interventions in Syria or Ukraine have been

i find it much more likely that Putin did not consider the Cold War to be over with the dissolution of the USSR, and sees the USA as an enemy even now. and think about it -- how much did we actually help out in Russia as the USSR fell apart? did we intervene to prevent various crime syndicates from taking power? did we step in to help their state retain its dignity in defeat? no, we just let it crash and burn, and from the ashes arose a new leader, a cold war veteran, a spy, a ruthless autocrat who intends to win WW3 without dropping a single bomb. messing with our elections to destabilize our democracy is, for him, simply an extension of warfare using familiar tactics. i don't get the feeling he thought his agent would necessarily win, but now that he has his agent in place at the helm of our nation, he's going to re-work our nation's policies and practices for greatest possible advantage in the context of a quiet war

in short, don't just look for Putin to act directly for material gains -- he's already one of the richest and most powerful people in the world -- as his real interests lie elsewhere, victory in a war most of us considered over long ago.

[NightWatcher]

21. She siphoned votes away from Hillary.

If a few thousand people who voted for Jill in a few states had voted for Hillary instead, we wouldn't be in this mess. I think that'd be worth something to putin.

[hrmjustin]

23. Jill Stein is not our friend.

It is proper to criticize her here.

[VOX]

30. I see you joined DU just today.

Welcome comrade 🇷🇺 Enjoy your stay.

[LaydeeBug]

15. Welcome to DU, and here, your very first post is just for me

I feel honored.

[still_one]

32. She was only too eager to be part of Putin's RT gala celebration along with Michael Flynn

and Putin, when they broke bread together

She may not be a Russian agent, but she is a detestable person who believes that Hillary was worse than trump, and at every opportunity defended Putin

Nader and Stein can take their false equivalency purist agenda, at stick it up their collective asses where the sun doesn't shine

[L. Coyote]

36. And we thought the Republicans were funding them.

Now it looks more like Russia stepped up too.

[LaydeeBug]

39. There's not a whole lot of daylight between the two, honestly nt

[fleabiscuit]

42. At at the least she was a useful idiot. nt

[ProudLib72]

7. It makes perfect sense that she was

They needed someone to skim votes away from HRC. Then she created a diversion with the recount. There is no other reason that someone with such low vote numbers would want a recount.

[MineralMan]

12. Well, I doubt she paid for her own trip to Russian.

That's as far as I'll go in this thread.

[sunonmars]

17. Is a frogs ass watertight, does a bear shit in the woods?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

25. It would seem

that the 2016 election is looking more crooked and rigged against Hillary by the second.

[jmg257]

26. Steele sure seems to think so...

- Kremlin engaging with several high profile US players, including STEIN, PAGE and (former DIA Director
Michael Flynn and funding their recent visits to Moscow

4. Speaking separately, also in early August 2016, a Kremlin official involved in US relations commented
on aspects ofthe Russian operation to date. its goals have been threefold- US actors
how Moscow could help them,- gathering relevant intelligence; and creating and disseminating
compromising information (?kompromat?). This had involved the Kremlin supporting various US political
figures, including funding indirectly their recent visits to Moscow. S/he named a delegation from
Lyndon Larouche, presidential candidate Jiill STEIN of the Green Party; TRUMP foreign policy adviser

pg 15

[DinahMoeHum]

27. GREEN: Getting Republicans Elected Every November

. . .all I need to know about Jill Stein and anyone who worships her.

[luvMIdog]

28. she sure didn't hurt Trump's odds of getting in

[Tarheel_Dem]

31. I think Rachel has toyed with this speculation before. It would be great for her to flesh it out...

more. I've been convinced ever since Jill Stein came on the scene, that she was no friend to earth friendly progressives, but only used them for access to the ballot, and to divide the rest of us.

[OilemFirchen]

33. If not, she was a volunteer.

Not exactly a resume'-enhancer, either way.

[TheDebbieDee]

38. You need to ask?

[Demsrule86]

43. I think so.

She betrayed the greens and her country.