Let's just stop with the nonsense our presidential platform wasn't middle and working class friendly

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Off the top of my head

-Public option
-Free college tuition for students from families who earn < 125K
-Paid family leave
-Job retraining


What's a Undeplorable not to like?

[treestar]

1. It didn't get out there since the M$M

was too busy covering Donald's latest shenanigans.

[JimGinPA]

8. And Don't Forget...

No matter what he did or said, the M$M followed whatever reports with HER EMAILS!!!

[treestar]

15. Yes. It was constant coverage of

emails, Benghazi and nothing about the good things she had done in her life. Imagine being judged only on a couple parts of your life that could be made into the worst.

[jrthin]

2. Exactly. nt

[librechik]

3. And Hillary adopted all of Bernie's platform

the day after the nom--she should have asked him to be veep!

[SarahPalinSucks]

4. Its not the positions/policy...

-End War
-No more obesity
-Free Public transportation
-Enact world peace


No body wants the opposite of those things either. But they will not vote for someone who doesn't think they can get it done, or doesn't believe them.

As its been stated before, its a popularity contest.

You can have an unlikable/untrustworthy person have great ideas, and a likable/trustworthy (or at least LESS unlikable) person with average ideas, and unfortunately the great ideas don't always win.

[fleabiscuit]

6. What makes them popular? nt

[JI7]

10. so are non white people abnormal or something ? because large majorities of non white people voted

for Clinton.

yet what white people want is always treated as the norm.

[muriel_volestrangler]

16. But that doesn't explain the election either; Trump is an extremely unlikeable and untrustworthy

person (pussy-grabbing, boastful, real estate developer). He didn't have great ideas; he had huge claims about what he could or would do, and a large number of Americans turned out to be gullible enough to believe him, and allied with the bigots who love his bigotry, that was enough.

No, previous elections may have been popularity contests, but this wasn't (at least, Trump lost on that part - polls showed that). What Trump offered the Americans who chose him was revenge on people they think do them wrong. He's their strongman.

[SarahPalinSucks]

19. Neither were well liked

People don't like to hear it, but I really don't think Hillary was popular. People didn't like her.
Now people didn't like Trump either. It was a strange election in which neither candidate was terribly well liked.

The average Joe/Jane that didn't have their ear to the ground on everything politics knew Trump as a "Successful" ( ), loud, outspoken public figure that was on TV sometimes and owned a lot of things.

Hillary was a politician.


Unfortunately people aren't as smart as we give them credit for. One lady told me "I just don't like her voice".

[muriel_volestrangler]

20. Trump was always more unpopular than Hillary

People think even less of him now, but she always led in 'favorability' or 'likeable'.

The way you describe Trump coming across isn't "likeable". It's not a question of being 'smart'. Yes, Hillary was a politician; but Trump was the least liked candidate in the general election from the 2 big parties ever.

It is important to realise why people voted for him: either they had people they wanted punished, and he was their man to do it, or they were gullible enough to trust him, despite his extensive history of caring for no one apart for himself.

[fleabiscuit]

21. Youre buying into the propaganda.

Other than Obama in 2008 Clinton received more votes than any other US presidential candidate in history. Again, what makes them popular? Is there another factor that tilted the electoral scale? Look there.

[Panich52]

5. Lying Repubs have always been better at spin

Clinton told the truth, for example, to coal miners: their jobs weren't coming back. Trumplodytes & conservative spin machine focused on the seemingly negative aspect and deftly ignored that her intent was to redirect coal country's economies to the future; ignored that energy experts & coal execs agreed that industry was dying.

Twitter profile of one Trumplodyte declares: "liberals love to be lied to." Typical of the willful ignorance of those who buy the spinning lies of the RW.

[lostnfound]

7. They like hearing "Mexicans took all the jobs" better than "the rich are taking all the money"?

We don't talk policy across the great divide very well

[killbotfactory]

9. She didn't run on the Democratic platform

She ran on what a shitbag Trump is.

for example: http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/8/14848636/hillary-clinton-tv-ads

[JI7]

11. she ran on both. you think she shouldn't have mentioned what a piece of shit he was.

they had no problem with him calling her crooked hillary or calling mexicans rapists and shit.

that's what trump ran on. on hatred towards minorities. and that's what people who voted for him love and voted for.

[ProudLib72]

12. +1,000,000

[JI7]

13. too many people think only White people can be working class

that's why they see a non white person on welfare as lazy and taking from others while a white person is seen as getting help.

a successful non white person is assumed to have been given special rights or preferences due to their race.

[Hortensis]

14. Completely agree. Huge lie. The list is very long.

For just one obscure example, the live-in eldercare daughter of a neighbor of a friend will NOT be getting the expanded rights and protections Hillary hoped to provide.

Our state will allow whoever inherits her father's home to sell it and kick her out when he dies. She apparently would be legally entitled able to stay in it a short time before moving, but two decades of living there caring for their father without pay confers no right to anything more. A brother who holds power of attorney knows what's in the will and won't tell her.

She supposedly never intended to be in this position (who ever does?), but after her husband died she was unable to get a decent job, their father needed help to be able to stay in his home, the others said they'd help but never did, she spends all her own money caring for their father and keeping his house going, yada yada yada.

Addressing some of the problems of millions trapped out of sight and almost completely out of mind like her was on our agenda. Still is, but "someday" will be too late for her.

[hrmjustin]

17. The media refused to cover Hillary's message.

Instead the wanted scandal.

[ananda]

18. What's a Deplorable not to like?

The fact that these policies will also help people
who are poor and non-white.