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There is no coming back from the unmitigated disaster the Trump presidency has become.
Regardless of where current investigations lead, there is no way your boy will ever again be seen as trustworthy, or even remotely credible.
You elected a brainless, lying, incompetent idiot who, from day one of his misadministration, has been mired in one scandal after another. He has accomplished nothing for the betterment of the countrys citizens; he has achieved zero for the hard-working people he campaigned on protecting.
You supported and continue to support a pussy-grabbing narcissist who is far more interested in the size of his inauguration crowds than the size of our national deficit, a man who is more interested in defending the (alleged) size of his penis than defending the nation against interference by a foreign power in our elections.
Despite your abject stupidity in elevating a known lying, cheating, lawsuit-ridden asshole to the most powerful position on the planet, one can only hope that you still have enough brain cells left to recognize the writing on the wall and act accordingly.
But pretending that the Russian ties story is simply going to go away by repeating the theres no there there mantra is demonstrative of a party whose members have their collective heads buried firmly up their asses which, by the way, is the dark rectum where Trump admittedly gets all of his information.
If youre waiting for the proverbial fat lady to sing, you might want to open your ears. Shes been singing, loudly and clearly, since January 20th. If you want to persist in putting your fingers in your ears, thats certainly your prerogative. Just dont delude yourselves into thinking that the rest of the country are as deaf as youre pretending to be.
I repeat the obvious: There is no coming back from the unmitigated disaster the Trump presidency has become.
There will never be a day when you can say, Now that this whole Russia thing is behind us
because that day will never dawn.
My advice: Get into the lifeboats before its too late. Get every able-bodied man on the oars, and put as much distance between yourselves and the Trump iceberg as possible.
Or not which, as a Democrat, is my personal preference. Im hoping your stupidity persists, because it means my party will prevail in the mid-terms and beyond.
Voters love blaming politicians for their woes - and those voters who don't get their jobs back (as promised), who live in fear of losing their healthcare coverage, and wonder why spending billions building a border wall is more important than spending money on our crumbling infrastructure will be quick to blame the Putin bitch you chose to elect.
I think the phrase "See ya, wouldnt want to be ya" sums it up nicely.
LOL Lib
(1,462 posts)I don't want any of these cock roach repugs to limp away from the wreckage. Crash and burn motherfuckers! Crash and burn!
TexasTowelie
(112,236 posts)but tell us how you really feel, Nance.
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Knicks007
(73 posts)At this point, every single GOP member of congress and senator is complicit in treason. If this goes where I think it will, most of them will be out. And hopefully some in jail.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)That means everyone in that cowardly bunch, who sits by silently, is complicit in Trump's crimes and vulgarity.
madamesilverspurs
(15,805 posts)is their persistence (yeah, I know!) in the delusion that they are immune to his fucking-over. He probably enjoys at least one good guffaw per day thanks to their reliable gullibility; they do, to his very happy profit, prove hourly that P.T. Barnum was right.
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NoMoreRepugs
(9,435 posts)calimary
(81,304 posts)He's right there. Every doggone day. The one with the orange skin and the dyed yellow mop on his head.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)pbmus
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SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)The fervent belief in the "power of positive thinking" keeps the whole family on offense. He is not accountable to the same conflict of interest clauses, or apparently even the emoluments Claus.
The son-in-law and the daughter can't legally work in the White House, but apparently Congress doesn't care. And they are establishing precedent. We will be stuck with future crooks and democracy will have crumbled under the weight of Trump.
certainot
(9,090 posts)and maybe even come out smelling like roses.
all of this could have been prevented. the last 30 years have been a disaster because of it and even with the evidence clearly presented, finally with a talk radio president staring at us from the white house, the left continues to study fish without water.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)I agree that it along with Fox News spew the propaganda that has created this RW base and it's blood lust for poor people and minorities. But the real root of the problem goes back to campaign finance. Allowing corporations and the wealthy to bribe our politicians has been our downfall. That enabled them to repeal laws like the ones that kept RW radio and corporate propaganda at bay.
As long as we allow our politicians to be bribed we will continue to have the hyper-partisanship and propaganda that screws over the 99%. We need to bust up the media and banking oligopolies, install Publicly Funded Elections, and end the revolving door and Lobbyists.
Mr.Bill
(24,300 posts)a Democrat will arrive to clean up the mess made by Republicans.
But not to worry, we are experienced at it. We do it every time.
narnian60
(3,510 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)calimary
(81,304 posts)Used to play it when I did the late, late, late Sunday night/early morning Public Affairs talk show on KLOS - and we had to take occasional breaks. KILLER song. And it's WUNNNNNNNNNNderful to drive to.
JHan
(10,173 posts)I vaguely knew of the band before but didn't know of this song. It's bangin.
MADem
(135,425 posts)John McCain was one of them. He made a little noise, then he went quiet.
He's "safe" too--he just won re-election. People forget shit after six years, so he needn't have worried about his disloyalty to the worst POTUS in history being an issue in six years. Trump's unlikely to last that long unless this soft coup goes hard in a hurry....and the window is closing on that chance, too.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)Graham is another one
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)However, Trump is the worst only a few months in.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)until he spontaneously combusts, taking all his groupies with him.
They are that stupid.
Why? I have no idea. But they seem to be.
Mountain Mule
(1,002 posts)I check in on another board where a number of the Traitor's supporters like to hang out just to see what they're up to and to make a little fun of them - such easy targets! They don't even understand I'm trolling them and the mods let my comments slide. They are very happy right now. The economy is going to come back in all those redneck little towns in the rural West and everywhere in the South, of course. They openly post their sexist comments and can't wait to see that big old wall go up any day now. They're still calling WE DEMS "communists" - the same old refrain dating back to the days of the cold war. And they are STILL going on about that birther thing! Good Lord people, get a clue! But of course they won't/can't. What I find really interesting is that many other progressive/Dems besides myself are starting to show up there and starting threads pointing out all of the Traitor's atrocities. Our side is really beginning to mobilize if Dems are starting to infiltrate THAT place - which they are in numbers that I've never seen before in all the 5 years I've been spying on that little con hangout place. Great work, Dems! We might just get rid of the Traitor by midterms if not sooner. The blind optimism of the Traitor's morons fills me with evil glee. I really am beginning to think they're in for quite the fall from their "glory"!
calimary
(81,304 posts)redneck little towns...'"?
I kinda doubt it. I keep thinking about the coal miner contingent. Coal is fading as a viable business. It's not coming back. Because the demand is no longer there. So what are all those coal miners gonna do? Especially since these same "advocates" they trust and have such faith in and voted for - still want to yank their affordable health care away. While sending them back down into the mines. Where they also want to yank most if not all of the workers' safety regulations and protections. Leaving them vulnerable to some really horrible and almost certainly fatal health problems like black lung disease. And keeping one industry on artificial life support when the demand has dropped and the customer base isn't what it used to be. So they're ALL on a dead-end road, ASIDE from mere health complications.
But these - I'm sorry but this is what they are: IDIOTS keep believing and keep supporting and keep voting.
It seems they want the unreality bubble. And if that's true, there may be no way to reach them. Hell, we tried to give them truth during the last campaign. They voted for the lies and the liar.
And now I have to struggle to remain compassionate and caring about them - when they shit in their own nest again and again and again. Because they're CHOOSING, ACTIVELY and DELIBERATELY, to shit in their own nest again and again and again. They CHOOSE to believe and accept and cheer for the lies and the liar. And all his nasty little liar friends and enablers, too.
My struggle is excruciatingly difficult these days. Damn near impossible, frankly.
Mountain Mule
(1,002 posts)I couldn't agree more with your reply. Opening up the Western landscape to activities like fracking, coal and gas extraction, etc is only going to make things worse, not better. My small rural town depends heavily on tourism and agriculture. We've already undergone our first raking over by energy giant Kinder Morgan which came out here and put in hundreds of pumping stations, a zillion miles of natural gas pipelines, fracking - every conceivable sin the extractive fuel industry can commit. KM has destroyed a nearby National Monument. What tourist is going to want to go out there and take pictures of an industrial complex? And KM didn't bring in a bunch of new jobs either. They hire out of some other state and then send their workers here to make sure locals are priced out of the rental market, thanks to out- of-town KM employees with big per diem checks. This benefits local landlords, but at the cost of local families being priced out of their homes. Once the pipeline building and well drilling operations are finished, they don't need all those workers, so they pull them out, leaving a few dozen people or so behind to monitor things. Even if hired locally, a few dozen jobs don't make up for the hit to tourism from the ugliness and the hit to agriculture from polluted water - never mind LACK of water. I haven't noticed much excitement around here from ANYONE in regard to the Traitor's energy policies - even conservative ranchers are not pleased over having their water shares threatened.
I have every sympathy for laid off coal miners, but this is certainly not the fix they need. As for all the haters and bigots attracted to the Traitor's cause, I have no sympathy for them at all, and I lose no sleep over their plight - whatever it might be. I lose sleep over their blindness to the loss of our Democracy and mentally, I consign all the haters to hell.
calimary
(81,304 posts)MOST interesting details you provided here, about how these fiends operate, and how it does indeed screw the locals - coming AND going.
This is IMPORTANT STUFF! Glad you posted it. I hope everybody here reads it. Helps us understand A) what's going on, and B) where the weaknesses are that we can exploit, toward flipping that district (and maybe other CON leadership at the very local level).
republi-CONS. Because all they offer is a CON job.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Retraining, as Germany has done, to prepare people for other jobs in our rapidly modernizing economy.
And strong labor unions to help workers at companies like this
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2012/02/mac-mcclelland-free-online-shipping-warehouses-labor
southmost
(759 posts)unfortunately they don't care...and hope Pence becomes prez :-
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)1). Paul Ryan is not going to give up. He's wanted it too long, too bad, and in his mind, he's "come too close to give up now."
2). It's a battle of wills between Trump and the "Freedom Caucus"...and the Freedom Caucus thinks it's going to win. Saw a CNN clip with Ted Cruz's former Kellyanne Conway, Alice Stewart. Her main talking point is that the constituents in Freedom Caucus members' districts are "thanking them" for "keeping the promises they made when they were elected." There's no way in hell they are going to welcome Trump "reaching across the aisle" to Democrats, or "reaching out" to "moderate" Republicans. They told Bannon to kiss their collective ass. They're not afraid of Bannon, they're not afraid of Trump, and Trump is totally unaccustomed to having people around him who aren't afraid of him.
3). Every other Republican who isn't Paul Ryan or a member of the Freedom Caucus is thinking happy thoughts about how they are going to make it through the 2018 midterms. If they back Trump too heavily, they could crash and burn with him. If they fail to pass the loyalty test, they know about his long history of "revenge" and sliming anyone he fails to see as a Smithers to his Mr. Burns.
I agree with everything you've said here, and my prediction is that the Republicans are too self-absorbed and obsessed with their own "careers" to come out of their state of denial. They see who Trump is, they see what he is, and they're just going to their happy place and telling themselves that he will become "Presidential" (which is a supreme act of denial), or that when he goes down, he won't take them with him.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)That's the game plan.
To the extent there is a game plan.
LOL Lib
(1,462 posts)Pence could push Gorsuck just as easily. They are content to let cheeto remain as long as possible, because they are all complicit.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)And the giant outcry will sink/postpone Gorsuch.
Right now the scandal had a bit of a lid on it and 40% of Americans aren't really paying close attention. That would change with I.peacgment or resignation.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)To that note, I'd like to hear one accomplishment for the betterment of this country's citizens by the GOP in the past four decades.
That's a short list. With maybe two items.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Because special interests in this country will not tolerate a president who stands in the way of their control of the Supreme Court.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)They ain't giving up anything as Democrats demonstrate time and time again their apathy in voting. .And we still don't have answer for the Koch brothers and their BILLIONS...That have been used to buy state and local elections....
Percy Cholmondeley
(74 posts)They're working like a herd of beavers, in about 30 states, on enhanced voter suppression measures,which nobody is supposed to notice. Kris Kobach is toiling away, GOP-controlled state legislatures are working overtime, and their Russian allies are going to swing it for them in the end. Polling will show them consistently,deservedly, in the dumps, and then, on election day, miracle of miracles!! The GOP pulls it out!! Once again, victory is snatched from the jaws of defeat!! If the public is incensed, an O'Keefe-type provocateur or 12 will get the ball rolling to start some "violence", and if that doesn't work, they can find some old footage of rioting from some other country if necessary, the FOX noise machine will go to work lying, the NRA will have to be called out to restore "order". Nothin' to it! You just have to be willing to stoop that low.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)This asshole is president, and the people who voted for him still like him.
This is a nightmare.
And it ain't over.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Fluke a Snooker
(404 posts)Seriously?? Time to get some DA's to enact RICO statutes on EVERY GOP office in EVERY state, and ARREST every GOP official for racketeering. NOW!!
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)usaf-vet
(6,188 posts)..... DITTO
HenryWallace
(332 posts)You sure this isn't a warmed over tread from 8 1/2 years ago?
I can remember saying "what kind of moron would ever vote for a Republican again;" and yet, here we are.
Denis 11
(280 posts)The Wizard
(12,545 posts)and someone you wouldn't let walk your dog for the fear he'd sell it to a fast food restaurant, giving new meaning to the term dog food.
Denis 11
(280 posts)The Republican voters have been conned, they are in severe denial though!
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I wish I could rec 1,000 times. You said it all, Nance.
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)As more and more of us realize that the fight is with the repubs and not each other, we will win more than we will lose. Folks are fired up and worried what the repubs will do next. 2018 will give us a chance to slow if not stop them. It's up to us.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)gademocrat7
(10,659 posts)Another great one, NanceGreggs.