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StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 12:44 AM Apr 2017

"His supporters would rather see America destroyed than admit they were wrong."

http://newsstand.beuseful.site/2017/02/22/veteran-cia-analyst-quits-agency-over-trumps-intel-criticism/

Posted by Gary Basham on 2/22/17, a conservative Republican

I am a Republican. I am more Conservative than not. I could not, in good conscience, and did not, vote for Donald Trump.

I try to understand those who did vote for Donald Trump, as there are many legitimate reasons why they did so: concerns over jobs, border security, terrorism, etc. are real and pressing issues. However, despite the fact that many voted for him with good intentions, the dangers of Donald Trump are real, and we must as a nation now come to terms with what we’ve done.

His supporters would rather see America destroyed than admit they were wrong. I have voted Republican all my life. My morals and faith wouldn’t allow me to vote for Trump because he’s a liar and a racist. I cannot put party before my beliefs. I served for 26 years in the military and view it as my duty to do what’s best for America. It’s pretty simple to me – if I fall in line and support a racist president, I am supporting racism. I cannot do that. I have biracial children. I am in an interracial marriage. I served alongside every race and religion during a 26 years military career including combat deployments. We are in trouble here. We need to come together and get him out of office for AMERICA

Donald Trump is dishonest.
Donald Trump lies compulsively.
Donald Trump has no moral compass.
Donald Trump is small-minded, and vindictive.
Donald Trump is a fatalist, whose philosophy in life is “screw or be screwed”.
Donald Trump has no history of Faith, yet now professes to be a true Christian.

Donald Trump has no history of being Pro-Life, yet now poses as an anti-abortionist.

Donald Trump embodies the rich elite, aloof “1%”, yet now postures as a “man of the people”.

Donald Trump evaded Military Service, yet now claims he understands ISIS better than our Generals.

Donald Trump’s companies declared bankruptcy on numerous occasions.

Donald Trump took advantage of every conceivable loophole in our tax codes.

Donald Trump took on massive amounts of debt that his companies couldn’t possibly repay.

Donald Trump’s business abuses contributed materially to the Financial Meltdown/Great Recession.

Donald Trump is leading the effort to roll back the very same Dodd-Frank regulations that were designed to keep us from ever again being subject to this type of financial abuse by Wall Street/Big Business.

Donald Trump is embracing in that effort the very same Jamie Dimon, billionaire banker and Head of JP Morgan Chase, who was one of the leading villains in the 2008 Financial Meltdown/Great Recession.

Donald Trump has been compromised by the forces of extremism. When the media was uniformly against Trump, the only news agency other than Fox that embraced him was Breitbart News. The resulting relationship with Steve Bannon is perhaps the gravest concern of all.

Donald Trump is now setting policy, and sending members of our Armed Forces into harm’s way, on the counsel of a racist, anti-Semitic, anarchist whose expressed desire it is to “bring everything crashing down and destroy today’s establishment”.

The world is laughing at us. We’ve made a mistake. Instead of pointing fingers, or assigning blame let’s fix this. This country belongs to US, not Donald Trump or any party

http://newsstand.beuseful.site/2017/02/22/veteran-cia-analyst-quits-agency-over-trumps-intel-criticism/




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"His supporters would rather see America destroyed than admit they were wrong." (Original Post) StrictlyRockers Apr 2017 OP
They would Rather see American destroyed than an American where there is more equality for all JI7 Apr 2017 #1
They think America has been destroyed already from too much equality StrictlyRockers Apr 2017 #2
They act like freedom is a finite quantity rpannier Apr 2017 #4
He needs to zentrum Apr 2017 #3
They're too dumb to realize they were wrong. demosincebirth Apr 2017 #5
Great rant, but he doesn't get it...they do NOT think trump is destroying jmg257 Apr 2017 #6
'Cause they never gave a shite about it Cha Apr 2017 #7
A lone voice of reason trying to turn aside the lemmings Mountain Mule Apr 2017 #8
Thanks a bunch, I guess. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #9
Excellent rant. I had the same feelings about some of the people I know Arkansas Granny Apr 2017 #12
Yep. Gary Basham is a hypocrite. Martin Eden Apr 2017 #13
First thing I thought of gratuitous Apr 2017 #15
An Excellent Summary and Reckoning of All Trump's Hideous Misdeeds panfluteman Apr 2017 #10
Why you have remained a republican is a mystery to me. vlyons Apr 2017 #11
K & R Lifelong Protester Apr 2017 #14

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
2. They think America has been destroyed already from too much equality
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 12:54 AM
Apr 2017

and because a black man can be elected president. They long for the awful "good old days" of hegemonic white-privilege.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
4. They act like freedom is a finite quantity
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 01:46 AM
Apr 2017

That if someone gets some extra freedom, I will lose some of mine
For some reason, abstract principles are a limited commodity like land or metals

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
3. He needs to
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 01:30 AM
Apr 2017

....confront other Republicans and organize to do so. They have no interest in listening to us.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
6. Great rant, but he doesn't get it...they do NOT think trump is destroying
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 02:54 AM
Apr 2017

America.

They support everything he is doing.

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
8. A lone voice of reason trying to turn aside the lemmings
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 03:04 AM
Apr 2017

I'm amazed that a guy that smart is still a Republican. That party has become the home of such ignorance and hatred that it's unbelievable. The person who wrote the post must feel like a lone voice in the wilderness, but I hope he keeps it up. Maybe a couple of them will listen to someone from there side, but the vast majority won't. The Nile ain't just a river in Egypt, you people over there celebrating the reign of a Traitor. Even a few of your own kind are beginning to see the truth.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
9. Thanks a bunch, I guess.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 03:23 AM
Apr 2017

Last edited Sun Apr 2, 2017, 06:48 AM - Edit history (1)

(< aimed at the author. Not the OP)

Forgive me if I don't get excited that some "conservative Republican" realizes they've reached the pinnacle of their party's existence and it's a big fucking bag of shit.

Forty years of using every racist, southern strategy, anti civil rights, goofy crazy Christian fundamentalist, vote suppressing, red baiting, anti labor, gay bashing, woman hating, immigrant scapegoating, bald faced Lying, science denying, government hating, TRUTH denying trick in the book....


... and Donny Tiny Hands is just a bridge too far, eh?


Well thanks a fucking lot. You guys have been dancing with and riling up these freaks for forty plus fucking years -- ALL SO YOU CAN SAVE A COUPLE POINTS ON YOUR TAXES -- and now the freaks want a seat at the table. And they want to kill some imigrants, and bash some gays, and lock up womens' uteruses, and destroy the government.

Gee. I wonder where the fuck they got THOSE ideas?


I take back my thanks. Go fuck yourself. Hang your head in shame. And then fix your fucking party.

(Note: above comments are aimed at the author of the piece. Not the duer who posted)

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
12. Excellent rant. I had the same feelings about some of the people I know
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 05:11 AM
Apr 2017

who finally came to the conclusion that they couldn't support Trump. I wanted to just shake them and scream that he represents everything they've been asking for for years.

I'm not sure what was the tipping point for them or if it was just the accumulation of his remarks that finally turned them off.

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
13. Yep. Gary Basham is a hypocrite.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:52 AM
Apr 2017

Republicans have always been against regulating the financial rapists on Wall Street, and dog whistles to racists has long been part of their strategy.

This Repug's rant merely shows how far off the deep end Trump supporters are.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. First thing I thought of
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 12:28 AM
Apr 2017

When I read Basham say that people voted for Trump over "real and important issues." The solutions Trump was proposing to these real and important issues were completely inappropriate, facile, and showed a complete inability to grasp the gist of the problem. Basham can't say it because his loyalty to his tribe means he can't call them a bunch of easily gulled, ignorant rubes who preferred pleasant-sounding unworkable solutions to reality.

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
10. An Excellent Summary and Reckoning of All Trump's Hideous Misdeeds
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 03:26 AM
Apr 2017

To which I would like to add one more that the author of this posting forgot or left out: He has hollowed out the US State Department, which has traditionally been the core of our "soft power" as a nation, and our moral authority in the world. In this, they have been doing exactly what Putin wanted. Luckily, Rachel Maddow has been spending a considerable amount of time on her show covering this. As the son of a career diplomat and foreign service officer, I am particularly concerned about this egregious misdeed, and feel that it deserves a lot more coverage in the media. After all, the State Department was in second place on the long list of Trump budget cuts, or stuff to sacrifice on the altar of the fascist god of war.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
11. Why you have remained a republican is a mystery to me.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 03:50 AM
Apr 2017

You sound like a decent and honorable fellow, who thinks for himself. Surely you have noticed that today's republican party is not all that different from Donald Trump. My friend, the Republican party left you long long ago. You have but to look at where the Republican party stands on issues to know that they don't care about you and your family.

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