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Mensch : Comey has all the proof on voter hacking now according to sources (Original Post) sunonmars Apr 2017 OP
"Well she aint been right so far........." Foamfollower Apr 2017 #1
She hasn't been wrong yet. And her sources got the FISA warrant right. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #21
She named the Nunes WH contact three days before the NYTimes. pnwmom Apr 2017 #44
Thus Comrade Casino & repube Senate Comrades are illegitimate Achilleaze Apr 2017 #2
and the only thing keeping the GOP together and keeping certainot Apr 2017 #8
You mean there are still people listening to talk radio? L. Coyote Apr 2017 #22
most red states are red because they are dominated by rw radio certainot Apr 2017 #37
And I thought it was going to school that was the problem. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #38
those stations push defunding and privatizing public ed - pretty fucking stupid for unis certainot Apr 2017 #40
Maybe you should organizea radio network. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #41
there are ignorant lying assholes calling liberals and dems whores thieves and certainot Apr 2017 #45
So what would your solution be to an unfair balance of RW Talk vs Progressive Talk? YOHABLO Apr 2017 #36
if your nearby university broadcasts sports on rw radio stations, protest almost anything there certainot Apr 2017 #39
We were just told the investigation was 'No where near over'. Now jmg257 Apr 2017 #3
Prosecutors always want to have everything nailed down so defendant has no wiggle room. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #4
And now Trump gets a pick for SCOTUS? Botany Apr 2017 #5
Mensch's twitter site is, well, something of a toxic mess. ananda Apr 2017 #6
RICO needs to become the new chant against the Republicans. avebury Apr 2017 #7
her blog link isn't working. KewlKat Apr 2017 #9
That's strange. I can't get to it either. Raine1967 Apr 2017 #11
Yes, I can. nt GliderGuider Apr 2017 #23
thanks. It seems to be working now. maybe it was just overloaded earlier? KewlKat Apr 2017 #25
Works just fine right now. Maybe the server is too busy. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #24
Cambridge Analytics DeminPennswoods Apr 2017 #10
You really can just go to their web-site and read the "About" section. jmg257 Apr 2017 #12
I did read it and Cambridge Analytics didn't need stolen voter registration data. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #14
In combination with their previously stolen data, the voter registration data pnwmom Apr 2017 #46
What makes it illegal is voter roll hacking and coordination with a foreign power sharedvalues Apr 2017 #17
+1, the voter roll hacking was illegal in and of itself the Kremlin KKKlan and their minions should uponit7771 Apr 2017 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author sarah FAILIN Apr 2017 #42
xlnt advice kpete Apr 2017 #31
Cambridge Analytica also party owned by Steve Bannon PDittie Apr 2017 #13
[x] Like for your post...eom Kolesar Apr 2017 #29
Yes it is rockfordfile Apr 2017 #32
The problems w/Mensch's current storytelling is Arizona and Illinois are the states Russia hacked KittyWampus Apr 2017 #15
Our current laws don't make much of this illegal but they should. sharedvalues Apr 2017 #18
My understanding is those are not the only two states that were hacked uponit7771 Apr 2017 #34
I believe it was something like 20 states were hacked. OnDoutside Apr 2017 #43
They weren't the only ones. There was a massive increase in hacking attempts in Wisconsin, pnwmom Apr 2017 #47
Sorry, but I'm not going to take the word of this News Corp senior VP as gospel hedda_foil Apr 2017 #16
She has been right on the FISA stuff, and claims to have been forced out at right-wing website sharedvalues Apr 2017 #19
The truth doesn't care if you accept it or not. nt GliderGuider Apr 2017 #26
True, but I won't believe she's got the goods without verification from journalists I respect. hedda_foil Apr 2017 #35
drumph was used to skirting if not breaking the law. BSdetect Apr 2017 #20
Who hacked the DNC is more important. This story has multiple facets. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #27
The party's over... pbmus Apr 2017 #28
It's an oldie but a goodie comment: WinkyDink Apr 2017 #30

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
44. She named the Nunes WH contact three days before the NYTimes.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 02:28 PM
Apr 2017

And she reported on the Alfa Bank FISA warrant in October, before the BBC, the Guardian, or a single US source.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
2. Thus Comrade Casino & repube Senate Comrades are illegitimate
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:19 AM
Apr 2017

They occupy a stolen White House, a stolen Senate majority, and many repube seats in the House.

We are being "governed" badly by an illegal cabal of republican comrades who clearly do not respect and will not defend America from Russian Acts of War*

* per Dick Cheney

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
8. and the only thing keeping the GOP together and keeping
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 10:39 AM
Apr 2017

trump in the white house is the dems/left's incredible continued insistence on ignoring rw talk radio, the only real advantage the right/republicans have in all this and the only reason trump is in the white house.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
22. You mean there are still people listening to talk radio?
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:11 PM
Apr 2017

Where, in solid red states that never vote blue anyway?

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
37. most red states are red because they are dominated by rw radio
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 09:53 AM
Apr 2017

the tea party is the talk radio party, trump's base is the talk radio base

at a cheap $1000/hr x 15hrs/day x 1200 stations, rw talk radio is worth 4.68 BIL$/ year or 390MIL$ /month FREE for coordinated global warming denial, pro republican wall st think tank propaganda, free market deregulation bullshit, swiftboating, and the hate and fear used to get people to vote republican.

ignoring that, while whining about "money in politics", is the biggest political mistake in history

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
38. And I thought it was going to school that was the problem.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 10:00 AM
Apr 2017

Seriously, education has more impact that radios. But, do you blame the schools?

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
40. those stations push defunding and privatizing public ed - pretty fucking stupid for unis
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 10:25 AM
Apr 2017

to support them. they attack teachers and teachers unions.

while they fight efforts to reduce student debt relief they're waving the sports logos of those schools - pretty fucking stupid to let them do that, yet we have, for 30 years.

those stations help elect school regents and decide who is and isn't 'acceptable' for uni pres and chancellor!

pretty fucking silly..... higher ed, shooting itself in the foot while their students turn up the music and complain about tuition and debt and global warming and talk radio presidents and wars and media deregulation and money in politics.

and those stations yell over protests at state capitols for weeks after the protestors go home

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
45. there are ignorant lying assholes calling liberals and dems whores thieves and
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 03:15 PM
Apr 2017

traitors all day from every corner and stump in 40 states (with 80 senators), and they have been for 30 years, and waiting for mom and pop to compete with wall mart is a losing formula and sure fire way to get a president like trump - especially when they coordinate with putin

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
36. So what would your solution be to an unfair balance of RW Talk vs Progressive Talk?
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 07:24 AM
Apr 2017

They dumped the 'fairness doctrine' and RW Talk permeates all talk radio markets. But I will say that where Liberal Talk has been pushed out .. the internet has taken its place in terms of getting the truth out .. case in point Randi Rhodes.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
39. if your nearby university broadcasts sports on rw radio stations, protest almost anything there
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 10:14 AM
Apr 2017

those stations will soon be selling the next war, like they sold the last one for bush.

the objective is to get the uni community into a discussion on looking for apolitical alternatives to broadcast sports on. even if the university does nothing the gop will freak out, media will notice, and advertisers will flee those stations. other unis will get shamed into the same. the rw radio monopoly/psyops will fall apart - trump will be gone a lot sooner.

without rw radio the GOP has nothing. monitor it, put a RUSH tattoo on all republicans foreheads, boycott all their stations/talkers, protest the stations and especially the unis that support 257 limbaugh stations.

257 Limbaugh stations are endorsed by at least 88 major universities….. - they need to be included in protests.

talk radio is the only major medium with no significant political counterpart on the left - in every other medium there are alts a click away. internet does not compete directly with talk radio - in most parts of the country there are no free easy alts for politics while driving or working- it is a propaganda operation.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
3. We were just told the investigation was 'No where near over'. Now
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:38 AM
Apr 2017

They have all the evidence?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8880120


ETA: ah she is saying her theory is now fact and that is all they need...

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
4. Prosecutors always want to have everything nailed down so defendant has no wiggle room.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 09:23 AM
Apr 2017

It takes time.

Even when a reasonable person would say it's a fact, the standard for criminal law is "beyond a reasonable doubt", i.e. no doubts at all.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
5. And now Trump gets a pick for SCOTUS?
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 09:50 AM
Apr 2017

Last edited Sun Apr 2, 2017, 10:31 AM - Edit history (1)

"Both Manafort and Trump knew that this targeting information was based
on stolen voter databases."

https://patribotics.blog/2017/04/01/alfa-bank-trump-tower-and-a-social-media-impeachment/


Russia was into voter d-bases in Wisconsin @ the county level.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/24/russians-suspected-hacking-wisconsin-dems/97023222/

And did Ryan and company also used the data that the Russians got by hacking?

ananda

(28,866 posts)
6. Mensch's twitter site is, well, something of a toxic mess.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 10:13 AM
Apr 2017

She's got some serious trolls there.

Anyhow, if what she claims is true, then why .. if they got
the warrant in October .. is it now April and ... nothing?

avebury

(10,952 posts)
7. RICO needs to become the new chant against the Republicans.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 10:20 AM
Apr 2017

The Republicans in Congress are accessories to what what it going on because they are more concerned about pushing their agenda then in defending the US Constitution and the American people.

RICO
Watergate
Why is it that only Republicans commit illegal activities on such a large scale?

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
10. Cambridge Analytics
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 11:06 AM
Apr 2017

If you haven't already done so, read Jane Mayer's reporting on Trump's main financier the Mercer family. Towards the end, she writes about Cambridge Analytics and how it can be used to micro-target voters.
Link: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/27/the-reclusive-hedge-fund-tycoon-behind-the-trump-presidency

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
12. You really can just go to their web-site and read the "About" section.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 11:12 AM
Apr 2017
https://cambridgeanalytica.org/about

They already have info on 220 million Americans.

I imagine the info on 3 million or so someone got (legally or not?) from Facebook helps the micro-targeting on that site, and supposedly the voter databases from key states would help too in those arenas (the hacking of which would be an/the actual crime - i.e. Russia?)


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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
46. In combination with their previously stolen data, the voter registration data
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 04:36 PM
Apr 2017

would have been extremely useful in their micro-targeting.

I don't know what you mean about their not needing it. Of course it would have been very valuable to them.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
17. What makes it illegal is voter roll hacking and coordination with a foreign power
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 07:36 PM
Apr 2017

If CA did either of those two things this administration is toast.

And I would be shocked if they did not coordinate with Russia given all the ties to manafort and Stone. And all the dirty money Trump took from Russia for his properties.

This administration is over. It's just a question of when, and whether Gorsuch will get confirmed (no tax or healthcare legislation will ever make it through house and Senate), and whether Pence and Ryan go down too or not.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
33. +1, the voter roll hacking was illegal in and of itself the Kremlin KKKlan and their minions should
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 09:53 PM
Apr 2017

... all be going to jail

Response to sharedvalues (Reply #17)

PDittie

(8,322 posts)
13. Cambridge Analytica also party owned by Steve Bannon
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 11:15 AM
Apr 2017
However, the most valuable asset listed on Mr. Bannon’s disclosure forms was Bannon Strategic Advisors Inc., a privately held consulting firm that was valued at $5 million to $25 million. [...]

The disclosure reveals more than was previously known about his ties to Cambridge Analytica, where he was vice president of the board: He had a stake in the company that he valued at $1 million to $5 million, which he plans to sell.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/31/business/dealbook/how-some-top-trump-aides-made-their-fortunes.html
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
15. The problems w/Mensch's current storytelling is Arizona and Illinois are the states Russia hacked
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 11:34 AM
Apr 2017

And they aren't the ones that swung the blue states Clinton was counting on as her firewall.

Also, a lot of states have voter registration public.

Lastly, Cambridge Analytics did not need Russian help in compiling their data.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
18. Our current laws don't make much of this illegal but they should.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 07:38 PM
Apr 2017

The illegality in Arizona and Illinois will be plenty for the FBI to bring down this administration.


And then we'll have to work as a society on how to prevent internet trolling, fake news, and foreign propaganda. If we're lucky that process will also sink the domestic propaganda of Fox and conserva-hate radio.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
47. They weren't the only ones. There was a massive increase in hacking attempts in Wisconsin,
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 04:43 PM
Apr 2017

for example - though the GOP governor downplayed it.

They think nothing happened because their system was so decentralized, and because it would have been "obvious" if the rolls had been changed.

They didn't even acknowledge the fact that the data could have been copied and transmitted elsewhere.

http://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/investigations/2017/03/28/hacking-wisconsin-spiked-near-2016-elections/99537426/

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
19. She has been right on the FISA stuff, and claims to have been forced out at right-wing website
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 07:42 PM
Apr 2017

She claims to have been forced out at the new Murdoch conservative lying website for being too anti-GOP.

And she has been right on all the FISA stuff, saying correctly that a warrant was issued against foriegn agents he was talking to, based on the Alfa Bank server. And she predicted some of the Senate disclosures this week on Russian paid trolling and hacking.

Now, granted, some of the above might have been public info.

But my gut is that the voter roll hacking will be traced back to Russia and to this administration. And i think that will bring down these GOP liars.

We will see.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
20. drumph was used to skirting if not breaking the law.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:05 PM
Apr 2017

A bit of hacking would be nothing for him to exploit.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
27. Who hacked the DNC is more important. This story has multiple facets.
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 08:18 PM
Apr 2017

If they can hang the DNC hack on Trump, that alone will be far bigger than Watergate.

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