A judge rules Trump may have incited violence and Trump again has his own mouth to blame

[CousinIT]

The courts keep taking Donald Trump both seriously and literally. And the president's word choices are proving to be a real headache.

A federal judge in Kentucky is the latest to take Trump at his word when he says something controversial. Judge David J. Hale ruled against efforts by Trump's attorneys to throw out a lawsuit accusing him of inciting violence against protesters at a March 2016 campaign rally in Louisville.

At the rally, Trump repeatedly said “get 'em out of here” before, according to the protesters, they were shoved and punched by his supporters. Trump's attorneys sought to have the case dismissed on free speech grounds, arguing that he didn't intend for his supporters to use force. But Hale noted that speech inciting violence is not protected by the First Amendment and ruled that there is plenty of evidence that the protesters' injuries were a “direct and proximate result” of Trump's words.

“It is plausible that Trump’s direction to ‘get 'em out of here’ advocated the use of force,” Hale wrote. “It was an order, an instruction, a command.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/02/a-judge-rules-trump-may-have-incited-violence-and-trump-again-has-his-own-mouth-to-blame/

[beachbum bob]

1. Judge did not rule any such thing...He ruled the lawsuit had

Some standing to continue.. I hate the sensatilizing of every little thing

[Ms. Toad]

2. Correct.

All you have to do to survive a motion to dismiss is have an attorney capable of identifying a legal theory and making up facts that match the legal theory. That's is.

I'm not saying the facts are made up here - just trying to make a point about how little this means: Had the attorney made up the quotations out of whole cloth, it would still have survived the motion to dismiss - in which the facts alleged have to be taken as true for purposes of evaluating the motion to dismiss. So what matters here is not Trump's words, but the words his attorney wrote in the complaint. (N.B. had the attorney actually made up the comments, he would be in a different kind of trouble - but the complaint would still survive)

[CousinIT]

3. I didn't write the title. Just copied it from WP. n/t