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madville

(7,410 posts)
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 01:17 PM Apr 2017

Could It Be Time To Deny White Men The Franchise? (The Right to Vote)

Could It Be Time To Deny White Men The Franchise?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.za/shelley-garland/could-it-be-time-to-deny-white-men-the-franchise_a_22036640/

Some of the biggest blows to the progressive cause in the past year have often been due to the votes of white men. If white men were not allowed to vote, it is unlikely that the United Kingdom would be leaving the European Union, it is unlikely that Donald Trump would now be the President of the United States, and it is unlikely that the Democratic Alliance would now be governing four of South Africa's biggest cities.

If white men no longer had the vote, the progressive cause would be strengthened. It would not be necessary to deny white men indefinitely – the denial of the vote to white men for 20 years (just less than a generation) would go some way to seeing a decline in the influence of reactionary and neo-liberal ideology in the world. The influence of reckless white males were one of the primary reasons that led to the Great Recession which began in 2008. This would also strike a blow against toxic white masculinity, one that is long needed.

At the same time, a denial of the franchise to white men, could see a redistribution of global assets to their rightful owners. After all, white men have used the imposition of Western legal systems around the world to reinforce modern capitalism. A period of twenty years without white men in the world's parliaments and voting booths will allow legislation to be passed which could see the world's wealth far more equitably shared. The violence of white male wealth and income inequality will be a thing of the past.

Some may argue that this is unfair. Let's be clear, it may be unfair, but a moratorium on the franchise for white males for a period of between 20 and 30 years is a small price to pay for the pain inflicted by white males on others, particularly those with black, female-identifying bodies. In addition, white men should not be stripped of their other rights, and this withholding of the franchise should only be a temporary measure, as the world rights the wrongs of the past.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.za/shelley-garland/could-it-be-time-to-deny-white-men-the-franchise_a_22036640/


Interesting article as far as a thought exercise and her reasoning isn't wrong but the solution is kind of out there (I wouldn't ever advocate for anything like this in reality nor would it ever actually happen for good reason). Raises a bunch of questions in my mind just thinking about the practicality:
- How do you determine who is "white"? Many Hispanics/Latinos are technically "white" as far as race is concerned, that would disenfranchise them.
- DNA testing to determine race for voting? What would the threshold be?
- Could white men then self-identify as women in order to vote?
- Would people be able to self-identify as a different race like Rachel Dolezal has attempted to do by saying she now "self-identifies" as a black woman?
- What about the millions of white liberal males,, are they included in this hypothetical ban as well?

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Could It Be Time To Deny White Men The Franchise? (The Right to Vote) (Original Post) madville Apr 2017 OP
asinine The Big Ragu Apr 2017 #1
Instead, why not make voting mandatory? Orrex Apr 2017 #2
Agree! get the red out Apr 2017 #7
You can make the vote mandatory but still strip that right via criminal records and requirements KittyWampus Apr 2017 #8
You make a good point as well Orrex Apr 2017 #12
I hate it when DU gets racist NobodyHere Apr 2017 #3
Yup, anyone taking that article seriously needs their head examined Amishman Apr 2017 #6
Please, tell us all about "reverse racism". It's been a while since someone has tried to fly KittyWampus Apr 2017 #9
It's not reverse racism, it's just racist mythology Apr 2017 #15
ROFL- snooper2 Apr 2017 #4
Oh ffs... Kentonio Apr 2017 #5
This is a GREAT thought exercise. And to see anyone get bent out of shape about it KittyWampus Apr 2017 #10
Sure, why not. tazkcmo Apr 2017 #11
you have to be kidding burnbaby Apr 2017 #13
Right reasoning very seldom Igel Apr 2017 #14
Article has been pulled, author doesn't seem to exist, and the editor of HuffPost SA has resigned. Dr. Strange Apr 2017 #16

Orrex

(63,213 posts)
2. Instead, why not make voting mandatory?
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 01:20 PM
Apr 2017

Then white males will be simply outnumbered by a host of other demographic subsets, and their (variously) destructive impact will be reduced.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
8. You can make the vote mandatory but still strip that right via criminal records and requirements
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 01:39 PM
Apr 2017

and gerrymandering.

But I do like your point. Well done.

Orrex

(63,213 posts)
12. You make a good point as well
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 01:52 PM
Apr 2017

Plenty of ways to disenfranchise voters when you've already mastered gerrymandering.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
6. Yup, anyone taking that article seriously needs their head examined
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 01:33 PM
Apr 2017

The long term solution is more people voting, not less

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
9. Please, tell us all about "reverse racism". It's been a while since someone has tried to fly
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 01:41 PM
Apr 2017

that nonsense in GD.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
4. ROFL-
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 01:26 PM
Apr 2017

Shelley Garland is an activist and a feminist and is currently completing an MA degree in philosophy. When she’s not gagging at South Africa’s unique brand of rainbow politics, she’s working on ways to smash the patriarchy.

LOL-

GO NEW WAVE MILLENNIAL!

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
10. This is a GREAT thought exercise. And to see anyone get bent out of shape about it
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 01:42 PM
Apr 2017

is sort of like watching a full grown adult finally realize there is no Easter Bunny.

Dr. Strange

(25,921 posts)
16. Article has been pulled, author doesn't seem to exist, and the editor of HuffPost SA has resigned.
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 02:43 PM
Apr 2017

Yowza.

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