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PsychoBabble

(837 posts)
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:46 PM Apr 2017

If you live in Georgia you NEED this today




There are a variety of concerns, including whether Russia got the personal ID/data to use for manipulation, as in 2016. May be farfetched .... but after our last election, I don't take such things for granted.

Keep this info handy today when you VOTE
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JudyM

(29,294 posts)
3. We have let this go too far. Were we asleep at the wheel/distracted by (cough) other things or
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 02:32 PM
Apr 2017

just really unable to figure out what to do and take action?! Election integrity has to be a core focus, and it wasn't in focus in the least.

And which of our leaders was most responsible? DWS? Reid?

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
5. I get that, but how did this get this far down the road to where we are desperately out of power?
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 03:59 PM
Apr 2017

Why didn't they start working hard on it after Kerry lost Cleveland, at a minimum? It seems Reid was in a bubble of denial about the dastardly-ness of the GOP (he's on record as not believing McConnell was serious about their #1 goal re:Obama, as an example) and DWS had other priorities.

IronLionZion

(45,565 posts)
6. Dems got cocky and complacent
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 04:45 PM
Apr 2017

Many of the voting abuses happened in states controlled by Republicans who have a very different agenda. Lawsuits and filibustering is about as much as we can do in many states where we don't have enough state legislators to vote against draconian voter suppression tactics.

DWS was not a very good chairwoman. I have high hopes for Perez. I had high hopes for Dean and he got us both houses of Congress in 2006 and Obama in 2008. We can do it again if our party gets our shit together and our voters are energized to turn out. Especially if the other side is wondering what happened to all the coal and factory jobs Trump promised them.

Amaryllis

(9,526 posts)
7. These guys have been working on it since before Kerry/Bush:
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 05:43 PM
Apr 2017
https://www.verifiedvoting.org/
They are excellent, and if we could get the Dem leadership to throw their weight behind them, it would be huge, but it has been next to impossible to get any interest from Dem leadership.

A lot of us oldies were very involved in the DU election reform forum after the 2004 election. Keith Olbermann was the only media person who even would look at it, other than Truthout and some of those more obscure outlets. We used to wait for Keith and have threads on his show like people do now for Rachel.

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
9. I remember, and it has been bubbling up since then, too, but the folks who are doing all the work
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:29 PM
Apr 2017

have been almost entirely under the MSM radar - which is somewhat out of our control- but also our leadership hasn't seemed to offer any visible support. All too concerned about called conspiracy theorists/discredited. We have to burn to the ground our aversion to being mocked and just do the damned right thing.

I traveled to Cleveland for the final GOTV push and was stunned by the number of folks who answered their doors with a story about having been called by the OH SOS/Shrub OH campaign mgr Blackwell with a warning that they ere ineligible to vote because their brother was in jail, or they hadn't voted in the last election, on and on. And nothing was done about it.

Totally with you about Perez, Dean and DWS. We need focus and vigilance.

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