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Stonepounder

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Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:49 AM Apr 2017

Heard a great quote on Colbert tonight.

His guest was a guy named (of all things) "Charlamagne Tha God". But that aside, talking about Trump, Charl said: "I think we are beyond Liberal and Conservative, Republican and Democrat, and we have moved to right and wrong, good and evil, and you have to decide what side you want to be on".

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Heard a great quote on Colbert tonight. (Original Post) Stonepounder Apr 2017 OP
Adam Schiff was on the Daily Show with Trevor Noah and said applegrove Apr 2017 #1
Schiff sees things with a clear vision flamingdem Apr 2017 #2
Schiff is right . I would expand that ( and slightly adjust it) JHan Apr 2017 #3
My dream ticket is Schiff and zentrum Apr 2017 #4
I'm not ready for 2020 yet, but that sounds GOOD to me Hekate Apr 2017 #5

applegrove

(118,832 posts)
1. Adam Schiff was on the Daily Show with Trevor Noah and said
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:57 AM
Apr 2017

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that the world isn't divided between communists and capitalists anymore, but between authoritarianism and representative democracies. And the world is wondering which the US will be.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
3. Schiff is right . I would expand that ( and slightly adjust it)
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 01:15 AM
Apr 2017

The tension is specifically authoritarianism versus liberalism, and oligarchies ( And their defenders) vs democracies. The work of oligarchs and their defenders is to limit government by hamstringing it using "smaller government" rhetoric which means less oversight. They find ways to pervert the democratic process through dark money for example. The other tensions are tribalism and provincialism versus diversity and cosmopolitanism, theocracies vs secular states, extractive industries vs renewables, globalism vs nationalism. Contexualise Trump in all this and he's the most regressive President we've ever had since the depression. I keep hoping Brexit and Trump and the situation in Turkey is the last shout, the last gasp, of the regressives.

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