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yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 10:15 PM Apr 2017

Wisconsin Assembly on a collision course with First Amendment

April 18, 2017

The Wisconsin State Assembly's Committee on Insurance is considering this week a car wreck of a bill that would exempt members of religious sects from carrying auto insurance. The Committee has scheduled a public hearing for April 20, and the Freedom From Religion Foundation needs your help to ensure that the wheels come off this problematic bill.
Assembly Bill 68 would allow a religious sect whose members register more than 25 vehicles with the Department of Transportation to self-insure those vehicles. Essentially, the church, rather than an insurance company, would be on the hook for any member's vehicle involved in a collision. This bill would grant a unique benefit to religious sects, although churches are in a far worse position to cover the costs of a collision than an insurance company.

(Keep reading if you wish to learn more about this bill.)

BACKGROUND

Wisconsin has an existing law that allows large companies with more than 25 vehicles to self-insure. But there are only nine companies in the state that elect to do so, and they are all commercial businesses. While this exemption makes economic sense for these companies, a similar provision for religious sects may put churches one large collision away from bankruptcy.

And this bill puts all drivers in the state at financial risk. If a person is involved in a costly collision with a member of a religious sect, he or she could find that the parent organization cannot cover medical costs and the repair bill, leaving the victim without financial compensation.
This scenario isn't pretty for those within qualifying religious sects, either. The bill would effectively turn churches into their own insurance companies. Members who get into a fender bender in the church parking lot may find themselves facing down church elders who pressure them into not repairing their vehicles or not seeking medical treatment, since those costs would come directly out of church coffers.

When you couple this bill with a law the State Assembly passed last year that exempts church-owned Christmas trees from Wisconsin's fire safety regulations, it becomes clear that the Legislature doesn't care whether Wisconsin's parishioners crash and burn. The problem with bills like these should be readily apparent: Churches and their members are not special. They aren't any better at assessing fire safety risks and they're no better positioned to insure against collision. Legislators are adopting nonsensical special exceptions for churches to the laws we're all supposed to follow.

https://ffrf.org/news/action/item/29206-wisconsin-assembly-on-a-collision-course-with-first-amendment

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Wisconsin Assembly on a collision course with First Amendment (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Apr 2017 OP
WTH HAPPENED to Wisconsin? elleng Apr 2017 #1
Wisconsin is trying to out-Alabama Alabama dalton99a Apr 2017 #2
It's Wississippi. AJT Apr 2017 #3
+1 dalton99a Apr 2017 #5
Churches are already out there doing health insurance Warpy Apr 2017 #4
oh great so a church van t-bones you and in court u face the priest and the mothers of the poor dembotoz Apr 2017 #6

elleng

(131,016 posts)
1. WTH HAPPENED to Wisconsin?
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 10:19 PM
Apr 2017

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.'

Warpy

(111,298 posts)
4. Churches are already out there doing health insurance
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 10:54 PM
Apr 2017

so members can duck paying for anything that scary black man came up with. Most of the outfits are called "Health Share," and the premiums are called "donations" and care is capped at each level, according to how much of a "donation" you cough up.

They look good enough on paper that they might be decent for people under 35 who still have the illusion of immortality, as long as they don't get cancer or into really bad traffic accidents.

Most are underfunded for any of the big stuff and lawsuits will eventually fly.

The "auto share" stuff they're coming out with is a take on this. Given state liability insurance laws, they'll have to struggle to get adequate funding reserves to qualify and that means the godly won't get much of a break.

If people want to dispense with mandatory minimum auto insurance, maybe they can find a reservation to take them in. You don't need tags or insurance to drive on the rez, just don't stick your front wheels out onto a state road.

dembotoz

(16,811 posts)
6. oh great so a church van t-bones you and in court u face the priest and the mothers of the poor
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 08:15 AM
Apr 2017

how if they have to pay for my injuries the church will have to close the food pantry and hospice.....


i remember an old archie bunker episode where his car gets hit and he thinks it his big pay day until his lawyer
finds out the other car was a station wagon full of nuns......

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