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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere is one important reason both Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren don't accept speaking fees
As Senators, they cannot legally do so.
This isn't to say it's the only reason. But legally, they aren't allowed.
This isn't a criticism of Sanders or Warren.
It's just pointing out that their lack of speaking fees is not necessarily due to altruism on their part.
skylucy
(3,743 posts)Cha
(297,651 posts)Aloha!
betsuni
(25,614 posts)Whether journalist or blogger or commenter, they shouldn't pretend Senators can give paid speeches.
Ninsianna
(1,349 posts)I know Bernie wasn't, and he's been in office for decades, and not terribly prominent before. Warren was writing books and was lecturing, so it seems like it's a possibility for her.
What is the big deal about speaker's fees all of a sudden?
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)I don't know why people are criticizing Obama. Retired Presidents, in the modern era anyway, have always made money by giving speeches.
Ninsianna
(1,349 posts)Hillary getting paid really seemed to upset them. She wasn't even being paid in the top tier, as I'd expect given her stature. She's so maligned that people forget how admired she is around the world and here at home as well.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)gets criticized for something retired Presidents have done routinely.
Or that there was a special degree of resentment toward Hillary, the first woman to rise as high as she did in politics.
Ninsianna
(1,349 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,027 posts)during the trump administration than either Bernie or Liz will have.
They should accept that and worry about their own efforts.
Cha
(297,651 posts)Cha
(297,651 posts)those books.. and criticize President Obama while they're at it.
safeinOhio
(32,715 posts)Cut a big deal with Japan to relax rules on auto imports for their cars. I ont think it was a month, he went to Japan and gave a short speech for a million bucks. Lots of $ back then.
frankieallen
(583 posts)of money from them to basically do nothing. Do they really care what Obama has to say, or do they expect something for their money?
We should leave this to the republicans.
How long does it take the little guy to earn $400,000? More than an afternoon.
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)He does not have to fight Wall Street greed nor live by your rules...and I believe if people who call out the president on this, they will only hurt their own credibility with Democrats.
frankieallen
(583 posts)athena
(4,187 posts)Look it up. Look up the total earnings of the top 25 hedge fund managers, then divide that by 25, and then by 52, then by 40.
You will find they earn about $400,000 an hour. This calculation assumes 40-hour workweeks and no vacations. I guarantee you that they work less than 40 solid hours a week and take plenty of vacation, but we won't worry about that.
Writing a speech is not "nothing". If you think so, you clearly have never written one. And it takes much more than one hour to write it and then deliver it. In fact, it takes about a week of thought and work to write a good speech.
The bottom line is that you think Secretary Clinton and President Obama are less important than top hedge fund managers. Otherwise, you'd be railing against hedge fund managers rather than at Secretary Clinton and President Obama.
I think the key here is that some white men can't stand it that a mere woman and a Black man could earn so much money. They're not bothered when white men earn more money; it's all good as long as women and Black people are kept in their place.
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athena
(4,187 posts)Who cares about hedge fund managers who make $400,000 an hour all year round, when you can attack President Obama and Secretary Clinton for making $400,000 for one speech? And let's not even worry about Republicans. No need to attack them! After all, they're all for the "little guy".
And when Barack Obama, who wrote two books (one before anyone even knew who he was), gives a speech, you claim it is "nothing" and that he had nothing to do with it. Even assuming he didn't write the speech himself (a big if, given what a good writer he is), whoever wrote it should not be paid, either, since he's only working for Barack Obama.
Welcome to ignore. Enjoy attacking Democratic politicians in the guise of standing up for the little guy. You are fooling no one.
Bengus81
(6,932 posts)That's who he's speaking to and he's a private citizen. Hope he makes more for the grinding eight years he put in.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)I just don't understand why they felt the need to pubicly critique Obama. It is a personal choice.