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Mira

(22,380 posts)
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 06:10 PM Jul 2012

Murder and Mayhem in Karlsruhe Germany - 5 dead

Up to five people are reported dead in a hostage-taking in Karlsruhe, southwest Germany.

The hostage-taker is believed to be among those killed, police told the Deutsche Presse-Agentur.

He is said to have been facing eviction from his apartment after failing to pay rent.

Officials were sent to evict him this morning and were greeted with multiple gunshots, the Associated Press reported. The man also claimed to have a hand grenade, one witness told Die Welt.

The gunman is believed to have forced the bailiff, a locksmith, the apartment block caretaker and the property owner into his property, though their identities have not yet been confirmed.

Special forces were sent to the scene and attempted to contact the hostage-taker, Karlsruhe police spokesman Juergen Scheufer told the AP. It is not known whether they succeeded.

Commandos eventually stormed the apartment after smelling smoke, according to Reuters.

They first saw four dead bodies inside; another, that of a woman thought to be the apartment owner, was discovered upon searching the property, said Agence France Presse.

All the victims died of gunshot wounds, DPA reported.

Police are still investigating what happened. They are due to give more details at a press conference later today.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/europe/germany/120704/germany-hostage-taking-4-killed-karlsruhe


I talked to my Mom, 88, who lives in Karlsruhe around the corner from where this happened. She drove to Aldi's this morning to go shopping and found herself in the middle of this. She said she had never seen so many police in her life, and not knowing what was wrong she kept looking around and saw policemen in the trees.
She said at first she figured that they were hired to trim the trees safely.

Bet no American would think this as the first possibility. Yes, I know what you are thinking, but her mind is as sharp as yours
An occurrence like this mass murder is rare in Germany, for which I am grateful.


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Murder and Mayhem in Karlsruhe Germany - 5 dead (Original Post) Mira Jul 2012 OP
they have Aldi's in germany? who knew? dionysus Jul 2012 #1
That's its original country. Mira Jul 2012 #2
DU is a great place to learn new things. first time i went to aldis i didn't know about the lack of dionysus Jul 2012 #3
It's ALDI, not Aldi's TheMightyFavog Jul 2012 #6
my bad. it's just what they're referred to in common parlance here dionysus Jul 2012 #9
thank you for posting this Mira! Dalai_1 Jul 2012 #4
I'm glad your Mom's OK. bluedigger Jul 2012 #5
Apparently they need more gun control there. oneshooter Jul 2012 #7
Care to compare Germany's gun-death statistics with the United States'? JackRiddler Jul 2012 #8
interesting chart Mira Jul 2012 #10
The shooter had no gun permit in Germany MissHoneychurch Jul 2012 #12
Bad luck Franker65 Jul 2012 #11
Glad to hear that your mom is alright MissHoneychurch Jul 2012 #13
"An occurrence like this mass murder... meaculpa2011 Jul 2012 #14
In America we would call this "Tuesday".. n/t Fumesucker Jul 2012 #15

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
3. DU is a great place to learn new things. first time i went to aldis i didn't know about the lack of
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 06:32 PM
Jul 2012

bags and had a whole cart worth of stuff rolling around inside my car on the way home...

TheMightyFavog

(13,770 posts)
6. It's ALDI, not Aldi's
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 06:58 PM
Jul 2012

The name is an acronym, not a possessive.

Sorry, for some reason this is kind of a pet peeve of mine

MissHoneychurch

(33,600 posts)
12. The shooter had no gun permit in Germany
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 05:57 AM
Jul 2012

Since the shooter was from France, they are trying to find out if he had a permit in France and how he got his hands on so many weapons.

MissHoneychurch

(33,600 posts)
13. Glad to hear that your mom is alright
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 05:59 AM
Jul 2012

it is a horrible thing that happend in Karlsruhe. The shooter destroyed so many lifes beside the ones he took by shooting them. How desperate and without hope has one to be to shoot people?

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