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Schindler: Both Flynn and Jr. have been on Kremlin payroll (Original Post) triron May 2017 OP
My God... Zoonart May 2017 #1
In retrospect bucolic_frolic May 2017 #15
Grassley looked to be shocked as well Mr. Ected May 2017 #16
Old Grouchy GrASSley NewRedDawn May 2017 #19
Kick. dalton99a May 2017 #2
KICK! & thanks! furtheradu May 2017 #3
well, if that is true, than trumpfuck is also... pangaia May 2017 #4
K & R BadgerMom May 2017 #5
I thought you meant The Donald Jr crazylikafox May 2017 #6
maybe both Juniors are NewJeffCT May 2017 #11
Here's hoping justice prevails. Lock him up. Really. nt Honeycombe8 May 2017 #7
Is "jr"responsible for spreading fake info about Hillary (pizza gate)? BigmanPigman May 2017 #8
yes mercuryblues May 2017 #10
I have said since the beginning mercuryblues May 2017 #9
Is there a link for this? flyingfysh May 2017 #12
So does the traitor that hired him specifically for being on the take from Russia. lark May 2017 #13
Don't let either one leave the country. Alert the border crossings to Mexico & Canada. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #14
This is from January PatSeg May 2017 #17
Is that the John Shindler who was fired from the Naval War College? csziggy May 2017 #18
Thanks for the info Ligyron May 2017 #20

Zoonart

(11,866 posts)
1. My God...
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:50 PM
May 2017

I knew this kind of confirmation was coming and will continue to dribble out about all of these traitors, but seeing it in black and white is another thing.
I think I know now how Diane Feinstein felt after her secure intelligence briefing.

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
15. In retrospect
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:04 PM
May 2017

yes, she was shocked by the full realization of what she learned

We've had spies, and espionage, McCarthy era, the Red Scare,
the XYZ affair, Civil War era traitors ... but not in my knowledge
at the highest levels of government, and in the executive branch
and White House no less.

It does have implications, it is nauseating, but a country must
protect itself.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
16. Grassley looked to be shocked as well
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:06 PM
May 2017

But his actions yesterday proved that even espionage and treason are not enough to sway him or his cohorts from placing the Republican Party over national security, over honest governance, and over the will of the American people.

If only the so-called patriots in America would see this for what it is and NEVER vote Republican again in their lives.

They are shoulder-deep in Putin's poo.

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
19. Old Grouchy GrASSley
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:22 PM
May 2017

needs to take a dirt nap. The old fool was stammering & repeating hisself yesterday questioning Yates. Me thinks like his leader in chief he has some dementia too.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
9. I have said since the beginning
Tue May 9, 2017, 04:07 PM
May 2017

If the feds want to get flynn, go after his son.

traitorous piles of maggot shit

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
12. Is there a link for this?
Tue May 9, 2017, 04:37 PM
May 2017

Is there some verifiable report that we can send people? Without a link to a known source, it will be hard to convince anyone.

lark

(23,102 posts)
13. So does the traitor that hired him specifically for being on the take from Russia.
Tue May 9, 2017, 04:49 PM
May 2017

Off with all of their heads - metaphorically speaking of course.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
18. Is that the John Shindler who was fired from the Naval War College?
Tue May 9, 2017, 05:13 PM
May 2017
Navy professor resigns after racy photo inquiry
By JENNIFER MCDERMOTT | The Associated Press | Published: August 11, 2014

PROVIDENCE, R.I. — A U.S. Naval War College professor has resigned following an investigation into a complaint that he took a racy photo that wound up online.

John Schindler voluntarily resigned his post as a professor of national security affairs, effective Aug. 29, a college spokeswoman said Monday. The former National Security Agency intelligence analyst has been on administrative leave since late June.

A May text message conversation with a photo of a penis and Schindler's name atop it was circulated in June on Twitter. It was unclear who sent it and who posted it.

A blogger sent a complaint to college administrators in Newport, and the college's president ordered an investigation.

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/navy-professor-resigns-after-racy-photo-inquiry-1.297789

How Surveillance-State Insiders Try to Discredit NSA Critics
Journalists opposed to the surveillance state are accused of sensationalism and withholding context. But unlike our critics, we're eager for the whole truth to out.

Conor Friedersdorf Dec 3, 2013

Who has done more than anyone else to increase public understanding of what the National Security Agency does? A top-10 list would have to include James Bamford, its first and most prolific journalistic chronicler, and Glenn Greenwald, a primary recipient of classified documents leaked months ago by whistleblower Edward Snowden. Over the weekend, I engaged in a back-and-forth with a former NSA employee who harshly criticized both (and me, too) with words that illuminate how some insiders view the press and the national-security state.

His name is John R. Schindler. In his own words, he is a "professor of national security affairs at the U.S. Naval War College, where he’s been since 2005, and where he teaches courses on security, strategy, intelligence, terrorism, and occasionally military history." He previously spent "nearly a decade with the National Security Agency as an intelligence analyst and counterintelligence officer," and he is "a senior fellow of the International History Institute at Boston University and is chairman of the Partnership for Peace Consortium's Combating Terrorism Working Group, a unique body which brings together scholars and practitioners from more than two dozen countries across Eurasia to tackle problems of terrorism, extremism, and political violence." In addition, his blog has some smart commentary on it.

He is certainly a surveillance-state expert. In comparison, I started writing regularly about surveillance in June when the Snowden story broke. If we're going by the dictionary definition, Schindler is correct that I am a neophyte, "a person who is new to a subject, skill, or belief." As Schindler and I interacted on Twitter, a predictable divide opened up between his followers, who are generally supportive of the surveillance state, and mine, who are more skeptical of it. Highlighting parts of our exchange* will permit me to better explain what it is that many of us "outsiders" find so frustrating about how "insiders" treat this subject.

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That brings me back to Schindler, who I follow, and who retweeted the following:
Rafal Rohozinski @rohozinski

Analysis of Snowden disclosures is ~100% context-free. Wish media would investigate rather than reporting slide decks as if they were fact.
5:49 PM - 30 Nov 2013


This is factually inaccurate. Numerous news organizations have spent untold sums attempting to investigate the context of Snowden's leaks. They have added lots of context beyond reproducing slide decks. (To cite one typical example, see Barton Gellman in this story, augmenting his analysis of leaked documents with independent verification from intelligence sources. Also see much of what Marc Ambinder writes.) And while there's been a lot of flawed journalism on this subject, as on all subjects, many commentators have been more unfair to Snowden and Greenwald than the NSA. Richard Cohen puts himself in that category!

More: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/12/how-surveillance-state-insiders-try-to-discredit-nsa-critics/281941/
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