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I voted for Hillary but On Kremlin-Gate - Bernie Speaks For Me. (Original Post) kpete May 2017 OP
The evidence appears to support the latter... Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #1
Yep. Bernie's been talking about Russia's involvement for months. beam me up scottie May 2017 #15
Thanks for all the links and info! Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #20
You're welcome! beam me up scottie May 2017 #64
Thanks for those links! Warren DeMontague May 2017 #40
My pleasure! Bernie's been talking about this for ages. beam me up scottie May 2017 #73
Here's his latest great quote "Dems should stop politicizing" Russian investigation... bettyellen May 2017 #51
ZOMGWTFBBQ??? LOL! Did you watch the interview? beam me up scottie May 2017 #59
He made unsubstantiated allegations Dems would politicize the investigation. Idiotic. Muddying the bettyellen May 2017 #62
No he didn't, he said it shouldn't be politicized and I agree with him. beam me up scottie May 2017 #67
He doesn't note how the GOP has politicized and helped cover up bettyellen May 2017 #75
He wasn't asked which party was politicizing it, he was asked how to get Republicans on board. beam me up scottie May 2017 #78
Nothing there that can't be willfully misinterpreted Crunchy Frog May 2017 #66
Precisely! beam me up scottie May 2017 #68
Just waiting for Crunchy Frog May 2017 #72
Every democrat has been saying this for ages La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #2
Democratic Senator Al Franken Speaks for me. Cha May 2017 #3
Nearly all of our Dems have spoken out strongly mcar May 2017 #4
Exactly, mcar.. I'm proud of all our Democratic Cha May 2017 #9
My own Senator Bill Nelson! mcar May 2017 #12
My Senators Mazie Hirono and Brian Schatz! Cha May 2017 #22
It's good to see Mazie getting national exposure. oasis May 2017 #28
Oh, good to hear the backstory on Sen Hirono, Cha May 2017 #30
Thanks for catching me up. It's been awhile since oasis May 2017 #31
You're Welcome! Cha May 2017 #32
Proud of my Senator, Chris Van Hollen! NastyRiffraff May 2017 #42
+ a brazillion! nt JTFrog May 2017 #5
Hillary warned about trump being putin's puppet during the debates La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #7
Yes, Hillary did warn about trump in the Debates.. Cha May 2017 #11
Exactly La Lioness still_one May 2017 #29
Bravissimo! and +1! LanternWaste May 2017 #96
Amen. NurseJackie May 2017 #13
Halelujah! Cha May 2017 #27
And Me. Me. May 2017 #14
Really.. BS is late to the hell hole we're in.. Cha May 2017 #26
My Dems as well sheshe2 May 2017 #16
Yes, So many Democratic Senators and Reps are Cha May 2017 #25
+1 ICAM, Cha lunamagica May 2017 #34
Hey Aloha, lunamagica! Cha May 2017 #35
Hola, Cha! lunamagica May 2017 #48
Thank you! (I like Franken's speaking style. His demeanor isn't distracting.) NurseJackie May 2017 #43
Hillary spoke about it in the Debates.. but Cha May 2017 #45
Senator Al Franken is amazing Gothmog May 2017 #86
Glad he is talking about it now. boston bean May 2017 #6
Finally. La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #8
Yep. Today is first I heard him mention it. boston bean May 2017 #10
Amen sheshe2 May 2017 #18
Yup, and this vindicates Clinton, so it's about R B Garr May 2017 #19
He's been talking about it for months as one of the posts above shows. white_wolf May 2017 #36
He answers questions when asked. R B Garr May 2017 #17
Thank you, Bernie! VOX May 2017 #21
Democrats speak for me. nt William769 May 2017 #23
I'm selective too. NurseJackie May 2017 #44
I mean it's never too late to join the party.... moda253 May 2017 #24
Bernie has been correct on almost every issue. Bluepinky May 2017 #33
"Support for Bernie doesn't mean you don't also support Hillary". Count me as one who.... Tarheel_Dem May 2017 #49
Well said, Bernie! Blue_Roses May 2017 #37
A big thank-you to Bernie and anyone else willing to stand up and speak out against Trump. democrank May 2017 #38
Kick and Rec for SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS! A TRUE HERO! Warren DeMontague May 2017 #39
I believe your statement of us all being grateful panader0 May 2017 #46
Well you don't speak for me: George II May 2017 #47
Precisely! We are fortunate to have progressive leaders like SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS Warren DeMontague May 2017 #58
We are fortunate to have dozens of Democratic Senators fighting for US! George II May 2017 #91
Yes! We are! Warren DeMontague May 2017 #92
I live in what I think is the bluest state in the country: George II May 2017 #93
Good for you! Warren DeMontague May 2017 #95
Au contraire. You DO NOT SPEAK for me. Tarheel_Dem May 2017 #50
lol. nt Snotcicles May 2017 #52
I don't speak Portuguese, unfortunately Warren DeMontague May 2017 #69
Oh. That's some really fascinating information. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #53
Perhaps, but he sure as hell ain't got no coat tails. Have any of his handpicked candidates won? Tarheel_Dem May 2017 #54
I don't understand. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #57
There's people here who think Australia's got a crap healthcare system Crunchy Frog May 2017 #60
Yeah, Sort of like if I say "I would like Republicans to stop lying through their teeth" Warren DeMontague May 2017 #63
He's not saying anything that Hillary & other Dems haven't already said. Not everything out of BS' Tarheel_Dem May 2017 #61
So we all agree! Thanks, Senator Sanders! Warren DeMontague May 2017 #65
I do. Thanks, Senator Sanders. nt Snotcicles May 2017 #70
... Warren DeMontague May 2017 #71
Yes we do! beam me up scottie May 2017 #79
Exactly, this statement just reiterates what others have been saying for months. R B Garr May 2017 #76
Precisely! We're so fortunate to have strong progressive leaders and voices Warren DeMontague May 2017 #80
Yes, EXACTLY. Hillary and other Democrats have been speaking about this R B Garr May 2017 #82
Exactly! Warren DeMontague May 2017 #83
Stronger Together! Thanks to Hillary for pointing out what a puppet Trump is R B Garr May 2017 #84
You're the first person I've heard call other Democrats "lesser" than Bernie Sanders. Snotcicles May 2017 #77
Maybe you can answer the question that the person I was replying to, won't? How many of.... Tarheel_Dem May 2017 #88
Just for the record, brer cat May 2017 #55
Yes, exactly! We are fortunate to have SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS fighting for us! Warren DeMontague May 2017 #56
You speak for me, Warren! AND KEEP SHOUTING ABOUT OUR TERRIFIC SENATOR FROM VERMONT BERNIE SANDERS! beam me up scottie May 2017 #74
AM I SHOUTING? IS THIS THING ON? Warren DeMontague May 2017 #81
Don't forget to wave your POM POMS and do a few SOMERSAULTS! beam me up scottie May 2017 #87
Wave That Flag Warren DeMontague May 2017 #89
Let your freak flag fly! beam me up scottie May 2017 #90
K&R SixString May 2017 #41
Why would you frame it like that? Has Hillary said something opposite about "Kremlingate?" Demit May 2017 #85
That's how obnoxiousdrunk May 2017 #94
That is the central question... Orsino May 2017 #97
 

Trial_By_Fire

(624 posts)
1. The evidence appears to support the latter...
Wed May 10, 2017, 09:00 PM
May 2017

As always Senator Sanders, thanks for all your hard work and supporting progressive/democratic values.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
15. Yep. Bernie's been talking about Russia's involvement for months.
Wed May 10, 2017, 10:00 PM
May 2017

In fact I actually posted links for someone when they said they'd never seen him mention Russia. Here they are again:

Bernie on Russian hacking in December:

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/11/gop-russia-woes-worsen-bernie-sanders-speaks-trumps-nonsensical-denial.html

Bernie on Russia hacking in January:

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/01/10/bernie-sanders-town-hall-russia-hacking-sot.cnn

Bernie on Russian interference in February:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bernie-sanders-investigation-russia-michael-flynn-links-donald-trump-election-campaign-democrats-a7581996.html

Another from February:

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/02/28/bernie-sanders-on-russia-investigation-ac-sot.cnn

And his statement from Bernie's website:

Sanders: Investigate Trump Ties to Russia
Wednesday, February 15, 2017

WASHINGTON, Feb. 15 – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) Wednesday asked the leaders of the Senate Intelligence Committee to investigate the relationship between President Donald Trump and the Russian government.

“It is incumbent upon the Congress to take seriously its constitutional responsibilities. The American people must have confidence that governmental decisions reflect their interests, not that of a foreign government. A robust investigation by the Senate Intelligence Committee is critical to restoring that confidence,” Sanders wrote in the letter to Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) and Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), the chairman and ranking member, respectively, of the intelligence panel.

The U.S. intelligence community has concluded that Russia played an active role in the 2016 election with the goal of electing Trump as president. Additionally, multiple media outlets reported last week that U.S. intelligence services have verified portions of a dossier that alleges that Russian agents hold damaging evidence about Trump’s past personal and business dealings that could possibly make Trump susceptible to blackmail.

There also have been reports that the Trump administration’s contacts with the Russian government are having both a chilling effect in the intelligence community and jeopardizing longstanding relationships with our allies.

“Throughout his campaign, and continuing to today, President Trump has refused to come clean with the American people about the nature and extent of his relationship with Russia,” Sanders wrote/.

“Every day that President Trump and his team dodge these questions, and every time their previous denials are revealed as false, that confidence is further diminished.”

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/-sanders-investigate-trump-ties-to-russia



Bernie is one of Trump's most vocal critics and he continues to be a thorn in his side. We need every voice right now and I applaud all of our hard working senators who've spoken out about this issue.

Way to go, Senator Sanders!


 

Trial_By_Fire

(624 posts)
20. Thanks for all the links and info!
Wed May 10, 2017, 10:26 PM
May 2017

Senator Sanders is all over America getting awards, attending rallies, giving speeches, promoting candidates... truly a very hard working dedicated American promoting democratic values.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
73. My pleasure! Bernie's been talking about this for ages.
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:39 PM
May 2017

I had a feeling some folks were unaware that he's been pushing this issue for months and thought I'd clear that all up ahead of time. Not everyone follows each of our senators so it's good to have all of the information before assuming some of them aren't on board with investigating Russia.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
59. ZOMGWTFBBQ??? LOL! Did you watch the interview?
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:22 PM
May 2017

What he said was in response to a question about how to get Republicans on board . Bernie replied that Democrats shouldn't politicize the issue. And he's right, in order to convince them to call for a special prosecutor it would help to not make this about Democrats vs Republicans. How is this an outrageous statement?

And secondly since we don't yet know for certain that there was collusion Bernie's also right to note that he's not on the intelligence committee and be cautious about going on record with accusations.

I don't want any of our senators making unsubstantiated allegations and that includes Bernie.

I listened to the interview and agree with Bernie. This Wallace person cherry picked one thing he said and is using it to try to generate outrage. That may pass for serious political discourse on Twitter but to me it just looks like another cooked up nontroversy. I'll save my outrage for our enemies.


 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
62. He made unsubstantiated allegations Dems would politicize the investigation. Idiotic. Muddying the
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:27 PM
May 2017

Waters as bad as any of DTs own hacks. He knows they'll use these quotes of him trashing Dems. It's happening way too often, shitty allegations are shitty.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
67. No he didn't, he said it shouldn't be politicized and I agree with him.
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:33 PM
May 2017

And I could care less about how the right lies about our politicians to fool low information voters. We shouldn't have to dumb down every thing we say because ZOMG SOMEONE MIGHT TAKE IT OUT OF CONTEXT!!!

Bernie was asked a question about how to get Republicans to support our efforts and he answered it.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
75. He doesn't note how the GOP has politicized and helped cover up
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:41 PM
May 2017

But he does say the Dems might plan to. That's his choice to frame it that way. I can't twist that into anything helpful.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
78. He wasn't asked which party was politicizing it, he was asked how to get Republicans on board.
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:45 PM
May 2017
But he does say the Dems might plan to. That's his choice to frame it that way.


He did not say Democrats were politicizing it or planning to politicize it. He said they shouldn't politicize it IF they want Republican support. That's not 'framing' that's answering the question.




I can't twist that into anything helpful.


There's no need to twist anything he said. He was asked a question and he answered it honestly.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
28. It's good to see Mazie getting national exposure.
Thu May 11, 2017, 01:09 AM
May 2017

I volunteered for her campaign when she ran against Linda Lingle for Governor in 2002. She lost, but we volunteers had a blast talking story while sign waving and passing out flyers door to door.

It seems Mazie has remained the solid, true blue Democrat I met back when I lived in the Aloha State.

Mahalo, Cha for giving her props.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
30. Oh, good to hear the backstory on Sen Hirono,
Thu May 11, 2017, 01:27 AM
May 2017

oasis!

I was in upper State New York then and only read about lingle.

Well, look who persevered.. Mazie Hirono!

Hirono defeats Lingle in US Senate race in Hawaii

snip//

Hirono ran on a platform of stopping Lingle as a representative of national Republican interests. At every turn, Hirono linked her opponent with well-known GOP names including Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan and George Bush.

http://newsok.com/article/feed/459218

I don't know why that article doesn't have a pic of Mazie instead lingle..

I bet you had a great time campaigning for Mazie!

oasis

(49,388 posts)
31. Thanks for catching me up. It's been awhile since
Thu May 11, 2017, 01:46 AM
May 2017

I left Hawaii. My old friends and workmates that I stay in contact with, vote for Democrats but are not into politics much. It was an effort to get some of them to come along with me when I was volunteering.

I miss Hawaii.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
32. You're Welcome!
Thu May 11, 2017, 01:52 AM
May 2017
, oasis!

I miss New York and all my friends None of my friends or family are into politics like I am.. since 1999.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
42. Proud of my Senator, Chris Van Hollen!
Thu May 11, 2017, 10:40 AM
May 2017

Like many, many DEMOCRATS he's been relentless in calling for a special prosecutor.

Kudos to all of them! Too many to name, but they've been strong and unrelenting.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
7. Hillary warned about trump being putin's puppet during the debates
Wed May 10, 2017, 09:10 PM
May 2017

Lol

How have people just discovered this?

Cha

(297,275 posts)
25. Yes, So many Democratic Senators and Reps are
Thu May 11, 2017, 12:56 AM
May 2017

on the Front Lines against trump and his Russian collusion.. and Hillary was speaking out against it BEFORE the election.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
43. Thank you! (I like Franken's speaking style. His demeanor isn't distracting.)
Thu May 11, 2017, 11:02 AM
May 2017

It's my hope that more DEMOCRATS find their voice and speak out against the criminal actions of this administration.

Al Franken (D, Minnesota) and Maxine Waters (D, California) are the Democratic voices who speak for ME!

Cha

(297,275 posts)
45. Hillary spoke about it in the Debates.. but
Thu May 11, 2017, 11:28 AM
May 2017

too many were brainwashed with HDS.. this is the living nightmare that many of us knew would happen on Election night.. and even before.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
10. Yep. Today is first I heard him mention it.
Wed May 10, 2017, 09:13 PM
May 2017

Usually he is discussing other issues he believes caused Clintons loss.

Maybe he has. But i have not heard it. Good on him.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
36. He's been talking about it for months as one of the posts above shows.
Thu May 11, 2017, 03:18 AM
May 2017

Seriously this constant Bernie bashing is getting absurd.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
17. He answers questions when asked.
Wed May 10, 2017, 10:07 PM
May 2017

And he says what's already been said or obvious to all. Maybe he'll pick up the pace now that it's obvious the Russian mafia is in the House. Al Franken and Adam Schiff have been brilliant.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
21. Thank you, Bernie!
Wed May 10, 2017, 11:41 PM
May 2017

Word for word, thought for thought, I'm with you 100 percent. Keep punching!

 

moda253

(615 posts)
24. I mean it's never too late to join the party....
Thu May 11, 2017, 12:50 AM
May 2017

Take that how you will.

But Hillary said it during the debates.

Democratic reps, sens and governors have been saying it for months.

Bluepinky

(2,272 posts)
33. Bernie has been correct on almost every issue.
Thu May 11, 2017, 02:19 AM
May 2017

I appreciate his unwavering support of Democratic values.
Just wondering about something--when writing a post in support of Bernie's position and statement, why the need to also state that you voted for Hillary? We can support both of them at the same time, we and they are on the same team to rid our country of this foreign takeover of our country. Support for Bernie doesn't mean you don't also support Hillary (although some of the DU posters think otherwise).

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
49. "Support for Bernie doesn't mean you don't also support Hillary". Count me as one who....
Thu May 11, 2017, 05:48 PM
May 2017

"thinks otherwise".

democrank

(11,095 posts)
38. A big thank-you to Bernie and anyone else willing to stand up and speak out against Trump.
Thu May 11, 2017, 05:00 AM
May 2017

To my way of thinking, party affiliation is far less important than principled stands on issues.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
39. Kick and Rec for SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS! A TRUE HERO!
Thu May 11, 2017, 05:23 AM
May 2017

Last edited Thu May 11, 2017, 06:14 AM - Edit history (1)

I KNOW I SPEAK FOR EVERYONE WHEN I SAY WE ARE ALL GRATEFUL TO SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS, FOR BEING OUT THERE, FIGHTING FOR US!

panader0

(25,816 posts)
46. I believe your statement of us all being grateful
Thu May 11, 2017, 11:29 AM
May 2017

is sadly disproved by the rancor exhibited upthread against Bernie.
I found nothing in this video that wasn't true, or nothing that
should have not been embraced by Democrats--but-- oh well......

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
92. Yes! We are!
Thu May 11, 2017, 10:09 PM
May 2017

For instance, my state has two terrific Senators!

You have no idea how much I wish the rest of the Senate were as on the ball as my two Senators are, on all sorts of issues that are important to ALL GOOD PROGRESSIVES!

George II

(67,782 posts)
93. I live in what I think is the bluest state in the country:
Thu May 11, 2017, 10:27 PM
May 2017

Both Senators are Democrats
All five Representatives are Democratic
Governor is a Democrat
All state-wide office holders are Democrats


Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
95. Good for you!
Thu May 11, 2017, 11:24 PM
May 2017

My state has the first openly LGBT Governor in US History, 2 of the best Democrats in the Senate, and is generally one of the most popular states for citizens to relocate to, year after year.

Our state party - usually far ahead of the curve on issues that it takes the east coast a good 5 years to catch up on, on average - does great every election cycle and our turnout regularly beats the national numbers.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
53. Oh. That's some really fascinating information.
Thu May 11, 2017, 05:55 PM
May 2017

Anyway, thanks to SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS for FIGHTING FOR US, since he is a TRUE PROGRESSIVE HERO!

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
60. There's people here who think Australia's got a crap healthcare system
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:26 PM
May 2017

Because of something Bernie said. At least that's what I gathered from an immensely long thread on the subject.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
63. Yeah, Sort of like if I say "I would like Republicans to stop lying through their teeth"
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:28 PM
May 2017

WARREN DEMONTAGUE SAID "I WOULD LIKE REPUBLICANS"! HE SHOULD STOP GIVING THE GOP THESE SOUND BITES


I hate it when that happens.


Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
61. He's not saying anything that Hillary & other Dems haven't already said. Not everything out of BS'
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:27 PM
May 2017

mouth is worthy of a stone tablet, and treating it as such only widens the divide. It's the cult of personality surrounding him that tests my gag reflexes. Any other lesser progressive can say the exact same thing, at the exact same moment, but only BS will get a thread devoted to what every other Dem has already said.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
76. Exactly, this statement just reiterates what others have been saying for months.
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:42 PM
May 2017

But it seems to be a hot subject now getting lots of attention, so that's where the camera action is....

But Hillary and other Dems warned of this a long, long time ago.

THANKS to everyone!

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
82. Yes, EXACTLY. Hillary and other Democrats have been speaking about this
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:53 PM
May 2017

for MONTHS. Glad Bernie is joining the chorus of voices, which is a huuge media focus now, btw. Stronger Together.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
84. Stronger Together! Thanks to Hillary for pointing out what a puppet Trump is
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:56 PM
May 2017

for Putin. Thanks. So glad Bernie is reiterating how serious this situation is.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
77. You're the first person I've heard call other Democrats "lesser" than Bernie Sanders.
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:45 PM
May 2017

Maybe there is hope for you yet. And you want to talk cult. That BS thing is so fucking childish.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
88. Maybe you can answer the question that the person I was replying to, won't? How many of....
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:57 PM
May 2017

BS' handpicked candidates, if it's not too "fucking childish", have actually won and where? Simple question that only requires a number.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
87. Don't forget to wave your POM POMS and do a few SOMERSAULTS!
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:56 PM
May 2017

Is it 'wave' your pom poms? I was never on the cheerleading squad so I might have the terminology wrong.

Any who...

We should all be THRILLED that our senators are united in their efforts! And it looks like we ARE!


beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
90. Let your freak flag fly!
Thu May 11, 2017, 07:07 PM
May 2017


Almost Cut my Hair

Happened just the other day
It's gettin' kind of long
I could've said it was in my way
But I didn't and I wonder why
I feel like letting my freak flag fly
And I feel like I owe it, yeah ... to someone, yeah
Well, must be because I had the flu this Christmas
Oh, yeah and I'm not feeling up to par
Oh, I tell you baby this increases my paranoia
Yeah, like looking in my mirror and seeing a police car
Well, well, I'm not, I'm not giving in an inch to fear
Well, you know I've promised myself this year
Well, I feel oh, like I owe it, I owe, I owe it to someone
Oh ... like I owe it to someone
Oh, yes when I get myself together
Yeah, you can find me in that sunny southern weather, yeah

I'm goin' to find a space inside a laugh, yes
Separate the wheat from some chaff
Oh, and I feel ...
Like I owe it, yeah ... to someone

- David Crosby
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
85. Why would you frame it like that? Has Hillary said something opposite about "Kremlingate?"
Thu May 11, 2017, 06:56 PM
May 2017

I'll bet there's a way to show your approval of a Bernie Sanders opinion without referring to last year's primary election or general election. Try it!

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