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His political rise was unprecedented. His political fall will be epic. (Original Post) Horse with no Name May 2017 OP
I certainly hope so. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #1
I think we are seeing a fall Horse with no Name May 2017 #2
As it should be.. Cha May 2017 #3
It galls me Scarsdale May 2017 #6
The Shit House Cha May 2017 #15
I can't see this photo as anything else but the conquerers celebrating The Blue Flower May 2017 #9
The Shit House.. Cha May 2017 #12
If nothing unexpected happens sharedvalues May 2017 #4
What worries me most is... DFW May 2017 #5
It's very hard for people to admit leftynyc May 2017 #7
Those aren't the ones I am worried about DFW May 2017 #10
You can't reach those people leftynyc May 2017 #24
I think of the 34%... Javaman May 2017 #16
Yep not fooled May 2017 #29
I remember right after the inaugeration NewJeffCT May 2017 #35
that's a nut that will never be cracked... Javaman May 2017 #40
Just give him more time. Everybody is picking on him. pangaia May 2017 #17
Nothing except keep a woman from replacing the black guy bigbrother05 May 2017 #27
If you read "comments" his followers are doubling down and loving this!! m-lekktor May 2017 #41
I have few followers foaming at the mouth. Demtexan May 2017 #44
I don't have the patience for that. Sometimes I will make a comment m-lekktor May 2017 #45
This guy was a real nasty type. Demtexan May 2017 #46
Reset is beyond grasp bucolic_frolic May 2017 #8
Trumpty Dumpty wanted a wall tanyev May 2017 #11
nice! eShirl May 2017 #23
Meteoric. JNelson6563 May 2017 #13
Not a question of if, it is only a question of when Dustlawyer May 2017 #14
But that's fortunate for us. ... Whiskeytide May 2017 #21
Yup! Dustlawyer May 2017 #36
I am not as optimistic, yet. pangaia May 2017 #18
Yes, we can't assume removing Trump solves the problem... mreilly May 2017 #19
You are absolutely, 1000% right on target. pangaia May 2017 #20
I want McConnell gone... llmart May 2017 #28
Please say more. zentrum May 2017 #22
Thank you Horse saidsimplesimon May 2017 #25
"An amateur would just shout and say anything, and it makes rational argument impossible." smirkymonkey May 2017 #33
Sad and so true saidsimplesimon May 2017 #47
It all depends upon a few good GOP Representatives and Senators. Nitram May 2017 #26
I don't think so. Republicans will defend him to the death of the Republic. Kablooie May 2017 #30
That's how I see it. I see no way out. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2017 #31
+1,000 malaise May 2017 #32
Trump had to meet with them personally because Mr.Bill May 2017 #34
I think so too. N/t Horse with no Name May 2017 #39
Mr Trump....Someone here to see you... BlancheSplanchnik May 2017 #37
GOD, I HOPE SO! I NEED TO GET SOME SLEEP! n/t secondwind May 2017 #38
Do not get to stressed out. Demtexan May 2017 #43
Love to his fat ass locked away in super max prison. Demtexan May 2017 #42

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
6. It galls me
Thu May 11, 2017, 07:26 AM
May 2017

seeing this incompatant person in the WH, entertaining Russians. No journalists were allowed. Where was Ivanka, making her business contacts with the Russians? These two must not be too high on the Russian food chain, since they are soiling the WH not the Florida golden palace.

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
9. I can't see this photo as anything else but the conquerers celebrating
Thu May 11, 2017, 07:37 AM
May 2017

It gives me a sick feeling every time I see it. We MUST clean the White House of this scum.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
4. If nothing unexpected happens
Thu May 11, 2017, 07:05 AM
May 2017

I worry that the president* needed a face to face with the Russians in the White house yesterday to plan something.

Expect at least some sort of hacking event. And let's hope it's only that.

DFW

(54,387 posts)
5. What worries me most is...
Thu May 11, 2017, 07:16 AM
May 2017

The 34% that still think he's wonderful. WHY? He's done NOTHING for any of them.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
7. It's very hard for people to admit
Thu May 11, 2017, 07:29 AM
May 2017

they've made a mistake. It will give them the bends to realize Hillary was a far better person than the degenerate they voted for.

DFW

(54,387 posts)
10. Those aren't the ones I am worried about
Thu May 11, 2017, 07:53 AM
May 2017

The ones that scare me are the ones who wouldn't even entertain the notion that their choice was a mistake. These people are the same ones that watch Fox and Frauds and think they are getting the whole honest truth. They are still convinced that Trump was the far better candidate, and breathe sighs of relief and gratitude every day they wake up and Trump is still president. I'm talking about the ones who listen to Trump say, "It's gonna be great," and believe it already is.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
24. You can't reach those people
Thu May 11, 2017, 09:14 AM
May 2017

Forget about them. They're irrelevant. All elections come down to independents and degenerate donnie is losing them every single day.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
16. I think of the 34%...
Thu May 11, 2017, 08:25 AM
May 2017

about 7 % are slowing changing their minds. but stubbornness keeps them from admitting to themselves they were wrong about tRump.

I think another 10% believe tRump is crazy but will never ever admit it as so out of spite.

That leaves 17%. those are the people that terrifying me. Those are the boiled down concentrated repuke base of dog whistle stupidity. the kind that, no matter what tRump does, they will always believe he is right and everyone else is completely wrong. Hell, even as the bombs were falling and the walls in the bunker were cracking, hitler still had supporters that truly believed they could still win the war all because das furor said so.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
29. Yep
Thu May 11, 2017, 09:35 AM
May 2017

They (~17%) exist and include the deranged "Xtians" who "thank God every day for President *ump"

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
35. I remember right after the inaugeration
Thu May 11, 2017, 09:49 AM
May 2017

I saw some polls that said 18 or 19% believed Trump that Trump has the biggest crowd ever. Those will be the toughest nut to crack.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
40. that's a nut that will never be cracked...
Thu May 11, 2017, 11:21 AM
May 2017

that the concentrated crazy.

the people that will follow tRump off a cliff.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
17. Just give him more time. Everybody is picking on him.
Thu May 11, 2017, 08:26 AM
May 2017

How is he supposed to do his job? He will make America great again, like he said.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
41. If you read "comments" his followers are doubling down and loving this!!
Thu May 11, 2017, 11:27 AM
May 2017

They love how Trump is making us "libtards" go nuts!! they aren't even phased at the abuse of power.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
44. I have few followers foaming at the mouth.
Thu May 11, 2017, 01:29 PM
May 2017

I like to pick at a few in the comment sections.

I had one yesterday really going.

I told him his president belongs to Putin.

That Donnie the commie has sold out his country.

It was an epic take down.

It was fun.

They cannot take it.

The the person was screaming in all caps by the end.

It went on for about an hour.



m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
45. I don't have the patience for that. Sometimes I will make a comment
Thu May 11, 2017, 01:48 PM
May 2017

then not reply to the responses! lol but I rarely go after somebody based on a comment they make.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
46. This guy was a real nasty type.
Thu May 11, 2017, 02:38 PM
May 2017

Attacking everybody.

Like I said they can give it but they cannot take it.

This guy comes to the comment section everyday.

Just mean, nasty, and rude.

Your typical republican.

They have own places to hang out at.

I just told him the truth.



tanyev

(42,559 posts)
11. Trumpty Dumpty wanted a wall
Thu May 11, 2017, 07:54 AM
May 2017

Trumpty Dumpty had a great fall
All of Vlad's money and all of Vlad's men
Couldn't put Dumpty together again

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
14. Not a question of if, it is only a question of when
Thu May 11, 2017, 08:08 AM
May 2017

will the Republicans decide enough is enough!

They don't want to waste the time impeaching Trump since they know they will probably lose the Senate and a lot in the House. They want to push Health Care and Tax "Reform" before 2018 elections. Unfortunately for them they are not getting anything done while they have the opportunity.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
21. But that's fortunate for us. ...
Thu May 11, 2017, 09:04 AM
May 2017

... I've been saying this for a while. Everyone here seems to want him impeached or driven out tomorrow. But that would allow Pence or Ryan or someone to take over, calm things down, and get republican shit done.

I want this to drag out until the mid terms or even beyond. They are as dysfunctional as possible with all this going on. but we need to remember that the only thing worse than a dysfunctional republican government is a functional one.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
18. I am not as optimistic, yet.
Thu May 11, 2017, 08:28 AM
May 2017

Even if he does go, there are still all those other sickos--their agenda will be the same.. destroy everything they can and grab all the loot. Plus there still somehow will be Putin.

 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
19. Yes, we can't assume removing Trump solves the problem...
Thu May 11, 2017, 08:54 AM
May 2017

.... this is both good and bad news, but I believe the GOP doesn't care WHO leads the party so long as they ram their agenda through. That gives me hope they'll ditch Trump because more than anything I want that fucker GONE. Humiliated. Disgraced. Whining how it's unfair.

But it's not over then.

The GOP must realize by now that if they shitcan Trump they can then tell the American people: "OK, you got what you wanted. We got rid of him. Problem solved. It's over." Then they'll proceed with the EXACT same agenda only pushed by Pence. They'll expect to accomplish their goals because they tossed us that bone by getting rid of Trump. Any opposition to them will be met with: "Pence is a decent honorable man, he's no Trump. You need to let us lead now since we catered to your demands by getting rid of the problem."

The simultaneous danger is that those of us on the left will assume Trump's removal ends the matter. The protests, phone calls, town hall meetings, etc. stop because "We won." That's a suicidal mindset. We can't quit the pressure. We can't stop working for the 2018 elections.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
28. I want McConnell gone...
Thu May 11, 2017, 09:29 AM
May 2017

We're all focusing on Trump, but McConnell is evil and giddy with his own power.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
22. Please say more.
Thu May 11, 2017, 09:07 AM
May 2017

I could use a few details of hope this morning.

Do call the DOJ---which I just did. Their line is not busy and it should be.

202-353-1555

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
25. Thank you Horse
Thu May 11, 2017, 09:21 AM
May 2017

Speaking of "the bigger they are, the harder they fall". I thought it would be interesting to check out the conservatives voices.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/447485/james-comey-firing-donald-trump-independent-investigation-needed

Donald Trump Was Wrong to Fire James Comey
by David French May 10, 2017

By firing the FBI director, President Trump made the decisive case for a truly independent investigation.
…snip
Amidst all the outrage and fury, it’s easy to lose sight of the fact that we still don’t have a single credible report of collusion between Trump-campaign officials and Russian intelligence. At the same time, we still don’t know the full story of Russian efforts to disrupt our presidential election. The crisis we face isn’t “constitutional,” it’s a crisis of confidence in our public institutions. In an atmosphere of mistrust, conspiracy theories proliferate. By firing James Comey, Trump made the decisive case for a truly independent investigation.

May it commence with all deliberate speed.


Christopher Buckley, son of William, had this to say in 2015.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/christopher-buckley-donald-trump-new-book-the-relic-master/

….snip
"I think once again, Mr. Trump has proved that he's not really a serious person. Serious people don't say things like that," Buckley said responding to Trump's latest remark. "Mr. Trump is a demagogue, and demagogues tend to use up all the oxygen in the room."
Buckley borrowed from the words of his father, conservative commentator William F. Buckley, to condemn Trump.

"My late father told me once an old rule is -- never debate with an amateur, they'll kill you every time," Buckley said. "An amateur would just shout and say anything, and it makes rational argument impossible."

The state of the current election cycle has led Buckley to put aside political satire for something new -- religious fiction. His new book, "The Relic Master," tells a comic tale of 16th-century rascal mercenaries who cash in on what they claim are the bones and possessions of saints.

"We've reached a point in this election cycle where American politics are self-satirizing," Buckley said "I don't think they need me."


 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
33. "An amateur would just shout and say anything, and it makes rational argument impossible."
Thu May 11, 2017, 09:41 AM
May 2017

This right here is the problem. There is no reasoning with people like Trump. Or with his followers.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
30. I don't think so. Republicans will defend him to the death of the Republic.
Thu May 11, 2017, 09:37 AM
May 2017

They hold all the power. If they decide to allow his criminality to stand it will stand.
The fact that this action endangers the future of the country is not an issue for them because if the democracy falls they see themselves as the dictators that will control the remains which is what they want anyway.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
37. Mr Trump....Someone here to see you...
Thu May 11, 2017, 09:54 AM
May 2017






We still gotta stay woke and busy, though. I want the entire Dump admin and pukey minions out of there.
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