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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Republican Plan To Remove Trump
They never liked him. A few are genuinely concerned about the profound threat to constitutional order. And they have their boy, Mike Pence, waiting in the wings.
All in all, Republicans are slowly but surely contemplating the politics and mechanics of ridding themselves of President Trump.
Some Republicans have the advantage of principled concerns about Trump. Others will see their problem in purely political terms, given the strength of Trump Republican voters. All will be looking for the easiest way out. And all would vastly prefer President Pence.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-republican-plan-to-remove-trump_us_5913d4d3e4b01ad573dac120
Were screwed no matter how many of them we remove from office. Who would be after Pence? It would be Paul Ryan, I believe.
Freethinker65
(10,021 posts)PsychoBabble
(837 posts)Link to tweet
Who is going to be left in GOP?? Real question ...
Louise has said for weeks that EVERYONE down to Hatch is compromised, on tape, sounds like mostly via international intercepts foreign IC's.
We will have to redefine "UNPRECEDENTED" if this ends up being true.
Please god please ....
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)I hate him so very much, but he is a Boy Scout compared to some of these guys.
cilla4progress
(24,733 posts)including Pence are now firmly implicated.
WHO KNOWS WHAT'S TRUE ANY MORE! AY!!!
Ezior
(505 posts)If Trump is removed first, then Pence appoints a new VP, then Pence is removed, the new VP will become P.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Pence, Ryan, and McCONnell are all part of the team that stole the Electoral College from the majority vote winner Hillary Clinton.
They do not get to appoint Presidents one after another as each is indicted.
atreides1
(16,079 posts)He knew about Flynn, and he's up to his neck in collusion with the Russians! It's Trump's campaign team being investigated and Pence was a big part of that group!!!
LunaSea
(2,894 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)The whole Watergate affair is a propos history to know.
Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)It may happen in a different order this time around.
If Trump goes first, then Pence is automatically P with the VP vacant. If Pence is impeached/removed/whatever before the VP position is filled, then Ryan is next.
Unless of course he is also impeached before a new Speaker is selected...
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)When Ford rose, he appointed Rockefeller. Rockefeller was NOT House Speaker at the time.
Thus Pence, if he rises, would appoint a VP. It would not be Ryan because Ryan would not accept.
If Pence goes first, Trump appoints a new VP, again not Ryan.
Ryan wants to be Reagan in 2024 (1980) while Pence is Ford in 2020 (1976).
Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)Agnew resigned 10/10/73.
Ford became VP 12/6/73.
Ford became P 8/9/74 when Nixon resigned.
For almost two months, the country was without a VP. That was what I was talking about. The Speaker would succeed if the President resigned and the VP position was vacant.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)If impeachment-conviction was likely, or resignation likely, tRump and the RepubliCons would rush through the confirmation ASAP come hell or high water.
It is conceivable that some course of events would make it the way you suggest, but very unlikely.
underpants
(182,805 posts)Response to underpants (Reply #12)
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stopbush
(24,396 posts)involved in the collusion with Russia, involved on a personal level just as surely as tRump was heavily involved on a personal level.
Their greatest fear? They dump tRump and he spills the beans on all of them. And it is a given that he will spill the beans when and if they move to oust him.
What's a traitorous R to do?
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Do you really think if they pushed him out that tRump wouldn't throw shit tantrums for days and smear everyone of them?
3catwoman3
(23,989 posts)How independent are the "Independents"?
No. Office Current officer
1 Vice President Mike Pence (R)
2 Speaker of the House of Representatives Paul Ryan (R)
3 President pro tempore of the Senate Orrin Hatch (R)
4 Secretary of State Rex Tillerson (R)
5 Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin (R)
6 Secretary of Defense James Mattis (I)
7 Attorney General Jeff Sessions (R)
8 Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke (R)
9 Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue (R)
10 Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross (R)
11 Secretary of Labor Alex Acosta (R)
12 Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price (R)
13 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson (R)
Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao (R)[a]
14 Secretary of Energy Rick Perry (R)
15 Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos (R)
16 Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin (I)
17 Secretary of Homeland Security John F. Kelly (I)
Jump up ^ Not a natural-born citizen (acquired U.S. citizenship by naturalization)
and thus ineligible for the Presidency.
Captain_New_York
(161 posts)Line of Succession to the US President
No. Office Current officer
1 Vice President Mike Pence (R)
2 Speaker of the House of Representatives Paul Ryan (R)
3 President pro tempore of the Senate Orrin Hatch (R)
4 Secretary of State Rex Tillerson (R)
5 Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin (R)
6 Secretary of Defense James Mattis (I)
7 Attorney General Jeff Sessions (R)
8 Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke (R)
9 Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue (R)
10 Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross (R)
11 Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta (R)
12 Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price (R)
13 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson (R)
Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao (R)[a]
14 Secretary of Energy Rick Perry (R)
15 Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos (R)
16 Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin (I)
17 Secretary of Homeland Security John F. Kelly (I)
Jump up ↑ Not a natural-born citizen (acquired U.S. citizenship by naturalization)
and thus ineligible for the Presidency.
niyad
(113,315 posts)world wide wally
(21,743 posts)At the very least.