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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums****OH SHIT**** Israel might be the source of intel Trump shared with Russia.
Russia can now give it to Iran and Hezbollah
Trump's actions jeopardized source's life.
Hypothetical presented by Allan Dershowitz on MSNBC
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)What a fucking trump.
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Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)Just an hypothetical
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)On CNN seems like a pretty strong clue (among others)
You don't mess with Mossad.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)He's a torture supporting, lying, vengeful, plagiarist.
I wouldn't put much stock into what he says.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)This fucking moron has compromised intelligence information and assets in order to brag about how great he is.
Feathery Scout
(218 posts)Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)RedWedge
(618 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)services give 45 important but very sensitive information that even could lead ISIS to undercover agents? Seriously, they may have felt they had to, but I'm also seriously wondering if it was fed to him to see what he would do with it.
This is not a new problem. Intelligence services started worrying about how they would handle a 45 presidency long before he was elected.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)"See, I've got these great facts, you guys, check it out"
He's like a fucking toddler.
mtngirl47
(989 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)From the Post article:
Washington Post
yardwork
(61,650 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)luvallpeeps
(935 posts)I just posted something similar before reading this. Maybe since Trump isn't able to deliver what Vlad really wanted, he is gonna just mess with us for shits and giggles? Trump did admit he invited them into the Whitehouse at Putin's behest. Putin is blatantly rubbing our noses in it?
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)With tRump the answer is always, what is best for Russia.
luvallpeeps
(935 posts)And he really makes no bones about it. Good God! He doesn't even bother to pretend he gives a fiddler's _uck. But we knew he was a whack job from jump street. I just can't understand what he could gain by such an inept, clownish display. Especially after railing about Hillary and her emails. I truly believe this was Vladimir Putin's way to stick it to........
eShirl
(18,494 posts)He doesn't need a reason, since he doesn't use reason anyway.
Feathery Scout
(218 posts)luvallpeeps
(935 posts)I really do now believe Putin is the puppet master here. If he can't get those sanctions lifted, at least he can rub it our faces that he pulled quite the stunt?
anarch
(6,535 posts)Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)I say another country because we don't know if it was Israel for sure.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)mucifer
(23,550 posts)Freethinker65
(10,024 posts)radical noodle
(8,003 posts)It's "off season" here. He can't be unfashionable.
JHB
(37,160 posts)nycbos
(6,034 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)He needs to be impeached now.
"NSA and CIA trying to clean up his mess." - CNN
global1
(25,253 posts)this will be the straw that broke the camel's back and the Repugs will start putting a lot of distance between themselves and Trump and we should be able to begin to see the wheels of impeachment start turning.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)Why is anyone surprised that he has thrown Israel under the bus?
writes3000
(4,734 posts)The journalist didn't say he knew for sure that it was Israel or any other country. As the OPtates, it was all hypothetical. Just to be clear.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)charlyvi
(6,537 posts)They cannot trust us with intel; Trump* has now made it perfectly clear that the only fellow nation he respects is Russia. I wonder how much he owes them, or what type of kompromat they have. Or is he just that evil?
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)That will certainly screw next week's field trip....
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)Was this some kind of a test from Putin? The Russians would immediately leak this shit to Iran, etc. If there are Israeli assets ISIS that Trump the Incompetent Fucktard revealed god help them.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)RedWedge
(618 posts)* Useful
* About ISIS
* Can't share -- no really, don't even look at it
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)We might never find out
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)No other ally fi5s that description. Doesn't play well with our other allies, doesn't play well with Russia/Syria, has the capability to infiltrate ISIS.
Mos radical groups in the area -- Fatah, Hamas, Hezbollah -- are comprised to one degree or another by Israeli intelligence.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)You never, EVER piss off MOSSAD.
onecent
(6,096 posts)we stop him somehow......I don't know why the marshall's don't have him in cuffs...
I hate this son of a bitch......I made a comment when I saw those Russians in there...and How
MUCH DRUMPF WAS SMILING.....NEVER SMILED LIKE THAT BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)I made the same observation to my husband: Real, warm, engaging smiles, back pats, body language. Look at them sitting together - facing each other, smiling; compare with Angela Merkel!
The SOB doesn't even smile at "Golden Daughter" Ivanka that warmly.
He has the look of a rock fan who just got a personally signed album from Jagger.
onecent
(6,096 posts)and thought MY GOD HE HAS NEVER SMILED AT IVANKA THAT WAY....
You could TELL SOMETHING WAS AMISS!!!!!!
iluvtennis
(19,862 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)I'm feeling both stupid and naive here.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)He's legally entitled to declassify whatever he wishes. That's not the point. He compromised another country's intelligence and has put their sources in danger (likely to get them killed). The issue is that no other country is going to want to share any intelligence with us because we have an imbecile in the oval office who can't keep his mouth shut.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)So the President really is above the law.
And here I thought that the essential lesson of Watergate was: Even the President is not above the law.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)to declassify. This is why sitting home or voting third party is such a bullshit thing to do. VOTES MATTER and anyone who didn't vote for Hillary and could have is responsible for this. This and watergate are apples and oranges.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)whatever it was, it should be freely shared with all of us.
I'm being a bit sarcastic there.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)that if the russians can see it, why can't the American people. Does degenerate donnie consider them more reliable than his own citizens?
bora13
(860 posts)just sayin...
moonscape
(4,673 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,181 posts)Chess is probably a better analogy. The Cold War revealed there
was a certain stability to the standoff.
Upsetting the apple cart like a bull in a china shop is going to have consequences
brooklynite
(94,595 posts)I'm not sure either would apply to Trump.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Trump doesn't know what needs to be kept quiet. Israel is done with us.
duncang
(1,907 posts)They have very respected intelligence service. Pissing them off may not have been a good idea. It could end up biting fipshit in the butt. This could make the leaks on dipshit from overseas everyone has been waiting for come true.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)Just hypothetical.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)I hope this isn't true.
luvallpeeps
(935 posts)This may be my overactive imagination, but what if Trump really is being blackmailed by Putin? Can he be that tone deaf to have the Russians in the whitehouse the day after he fired Comey? What if it is at Putin's behest that he put this horrifying display on for whomever has any doubt as to who's zoomin' who? I just get the sick sinking feeling that Putin is having a field day with this.
Hokie
(4,288 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,959 posts)If it is Israel, then there will likely be some upcoming issues. The right may actually start to turn, but then the other side will be overjoyed that Israel was the country betrayed, especially to the Russians. This will ultimately be bad for us as a country because if the "president" was "outed" Israel, what other nation who considers themselves allies with us will ever take a risk with sharing information with us, not knowing if it will end up in Russian hands, especially France, Germany, and the UK.
There is a possibility it could have been Jordan. I have read a few accounts from foreign papers that Jordan has actually been quite good at gathering information on ISIS.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Israel or Jordan. Either way the imbecile is likely to have gotten people killed because he's busy sucking up to Russia.
tblue37
(65,403 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)Syria. I happened to catch Howard Dean on with Greta Van Sustern and he had the source and the consequences figured out in about 30 seconds. Assad is a Russian client who they've been openly supporting during the ongoing civil war. They will tell him and whoever got the intel that was shared with us will be dead.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)The word is this came from a FRIENDLY country that will now be very skittish about sharing information with us. That doesn't describe Syria at all and in fact, there is nothing about Syria we can't find out FROM the Russians. It was Israel or Jordan.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)People/allies/our intel agents DIE!
IMPEACH TRUMP!!!!