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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
Fri May 19, 2017, 09:46 AM May 2017

If Trump chooses Lieberman as FBI Director, I think he's putting in a fix....

I think Lieberman would be easily controlled, either wittingly or unwittingly. I think Trump would use Lieberman to try to steer information to or away from the Special Counsel.

I don't think it would work, because I think the agents would let Mueller know in some way, if Mueller doesn't catch on himself. But I think that's Trump's plan, if he does choose Lieberman. And I think Trump would foolishly try to do that, if there's anything there that would get Trump in trouble (and Trump is sure acting like there's something there).

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If Trump chooses Lieberman as FBI Director, I think he's putting in a fix.... (Original Post) Honeycombe8 May 2017 OP
It might have to do with pleasing Israel after that debacle. mucifer May 2017 #1
I don't see that Israel would care about who the FBI Director is. Lieberman is old news. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #6
Lieberman could easily have taken the post on the condition that Trump wiggs May 2017 #13
Just about any POLITICIAN put in that position, will be suspect. Hoyt May 2017 #2
But, who is actually non-partisan? MichMary May 2017 #4
This pick is particularly telling, though. There is a spectrum. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #7
You are right it wouldn't work. Not only would Muelier, as an independent still_one May 2017 #3
Loyal to Comey and Mueller. mucifer May 2017 #10
We should call Republican Senators and tell them Lieberman is unacceptable. GBizzle May 2017 #5
Trump likes unqualified people who obey him dalton99a May 2017 #8
Yes. nt Honeycombe8 May 2017 #9
I don't trust Lieberman at all, but I do think a contest between Joe, the smiling fool, and Mueller hlthe2b May 2017 #11
Mueller is not up for FBI Director. He has been appointed Special Counsel. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #14
NO NO NO NO NO... The issue YOUR OP brought up was whether Lieberman would crush investigations hlthe2b May 2017 #15
A "fix" to disrupt or prevent information from getting to the Special Counsel. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #16
... hlthe2b May 2017 #17
Absolutely not worth it. nt Honeycombe8 May 2017 #18
Call your democrat Senator anyway marylandblue May 2017 #12

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. I don't see that Israel would care about who the FBI Director is. Lieberman is old news.
Fri May 19, 2017, 09:58 AM
May 2017

Lieberman is friendly to Israel, of course. But he has no power and is out of the loop, these days.

Choosing Lieberman to be Ambassador to Israel, maybe. But as FBI Director? I don't see that.

wiggs

(7,816 posts)
13. Lieberman could easily have taken the post on the condition that Trump
Fri May 19, 2017, 11:03 AM
May 2017

move the embassy and renegotiate the Iran deal. It might be worth it to Joe. He would agree to not only take the job but to smooth things over so as to keep Trump in office and get the Israel stuff done. They are both deal makers with laser focus on single issues (Trump = self interest, Joe = Israel)

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/250808-ex-sen-lieberman-takes-reins-on-anti-iran-deal-group

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-trump-should-renegotiate-the-iran-deal/2016/12/06/b78ddf3e-bb0d-11e6-91ee-1adddfe36cbe_story.html?utm_term=.a0e94d5cd89f

Joe is hardly just a former congressman...he's been an outspoken supporter of Trump on Israel and Iran -- and critic of Obama -- for a long time.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
4. But, who is actually non-partisan?
Fri May 19, 2017, 09:53 AM
May 2017

I don't think Hair Fuehrer could find anyone who would be acceptable to everyone.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. This pick is particularly telling, though. There is a spectrum.
Fri May 19, 2017, 09:58 AM
May 2017

There are career investigators who would be more independent. Trump is intentionally not going that direction. He is still thinking politically, and finding someone who would be loyal to him and not independent or strong. That is Lieberman...a very bad choice. Almost none worse, except maybe Cornyn.

still_one

(92,358 posts)
3. You are right it wouldn't work. Not only would Muelier, as an independent
Fri May 19, 2017, 09:51 AM
May 2017

counsel be impervious to untoward influence, but those within the FBI were loyal to Comey, so if that is trump's strategy I think he will be quite disappointed


mucifer

(23,559 posts)
10. Loyal to Comey and Mueller.
Fri May 19, 2017, 10:04 AM
May 2017

They would inform Mueller of Lieberman trying to stop the investigation.

 

GBizzle

(209 posts)
5. We should call Republican Senators and tell them Lieberman is unacceptable.
Fri May 19, 2017, 09:55 AM
May 2017

Democrats already don't want him.

hlthe2b

(102,337 posts)
11. I don't trust Lieberman at all, but I do think a contest between Joe, the smiling fool, and Mueller
Fri May 19, 2017, 10:29 AM
May 2017

would be a sure defeat for Lieberman.

I trust Mueller (at least for now)...

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. Mueller is not up for FBI Director. He has been appointed Special Counsel.
Fri May 19, 2017, 06:22 PM
May 2017

As Special Counsel, he will oversee the Russian investigation and all its facets, as he determines them to be, will be able to have his own staff, and will also oversee the FBI's Russian investigation (the FBI has other investigations, as well, but Mueller will not be overseeing those).

Lieberman is being considered by Trump as the FBI Director to replace Comey. Not as Special Counsel.

The FBI Director will answer to the Special Counsel as regarding the Russian investigation, but nothing else.

But of course, when the SC requests certain intel, he will only get what the FBI Director gives him.

hlthe2b

(102,337 posts)
15. NO NO NO NO NO... The issue YOUR OP brought up was whether Lieberman would crush investigations
Fri May 19, 2017, 07:20 PM
May 2017

And, yes, if Lieberman were to become Director, he'd potentially come into some conflict with Mueller, as independent counsel, or could at least sabotage via his big mouth (intentionally or unintentionally)... That said, I'd put money on Mueller being quite capable of anticipating and deflecting such attempts at interference. Joe is a dope.



Please... your fellow DUers are not that uninformed...

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. A "fix" to disrupt or prevent information from getting to the Special Counsel.
Fri May 19, 2017, 11:41 PM
May 2017

Not really "crush" the investigations. But Mueller's contact in the FBI would be the FBI Director, through whom all agent information will be filtered.

I can envision Trump talking Joe into holding back bits of info on so-and-so, because so-and-so is a good guy, and that info is irrelevant anyway but would cause problems for the good guy. I can see Joe possibly doing that.

I was wondering how someone could not have been clear on what post Lieberman is being considered for, but hey, I'm not here to criticize if someone is behind the eight ball on things.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
12. Call your democrat Senator anyway
Fri May 19, 2017, 10:48 AM
May 2017

It givws them moral support and lets them say what tbwir constituents think rather than their own opinion.

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