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Egnever

(21,506 posts)
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:47 PM May 2017

There's a problem with Mueller

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/17/mueller-clients-special-prosecutor-238532

Robert Mueller could face one significant issue with his appointment as special counsel to lead the Justice Department's investigation into ties between Russia and Donald Trump's presidential campaign: The law firm he's worked at since 2014 has represented several prominent players in Trump's bid for the White House.

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Trump's daughter Ivanka and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, are all clients of WilmerHale, the firm Mueller is leaving to assume the position of special prosecutor overseeing the high-profile Russia election probe.



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There's a problem with Mueller (Original Post) Egnever May 2017 OP
WilmerHale is a huge firm C_U_L8R May 2017 #1
I get that Egnever May 2017 #6
This could undercut the argument against Joe Lieberman as FBI Director, enough May 2017 #2
Yup it is an issue for both of them. Egnever May 2017 #3
crap uponit7771 May 2017 #4
First word that came to my mind also. Doreen May 2017 #10
Nah, one guy is an honest, decent and credible person, the other is Joe Lieberman Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #13
Agree that Mueller has an impeccable record Egnever May 2017 #16
Doesn't sound like much of a problem BeyondGeography May 2017 #5
Unless he comes back with no wrongdoing from the Trump team Egnever May 2017 #8
Mueller has never looked suspect in his career BeyondGeography May 2017 #9
I actually have faith he will do a thorough investigation Egnever May 2017 #12
The strongest argument against Lieberman IMO is that he has no federal law enforcement experience BeyondGeography May 2017 #19
WilmerHale isn't a small boutique firm, it has hundreds and hundreds of lawyers geek tragedy May 2017 #7
Here's an article from the Post outling the issues and the probable result of the review. mulsh May 2017 #11
link takes me to a page not found. Egnever May 2017 #14
It comes down to reputation. justiceischeap May 2017 #15
This I agree with Egnever May 2017 #17
Mr. Mueller resigned from his law firm the day he accepted the special counsel (n/t) PJMcK May 2017 #18
And Lieberman has ties to Trump crime family also, thru his Law Firm. mhw May 2017 #20
No, there's a problem with Politico. Mueller has a stellar rep. emulatorloo May 2017 #21
knew there was going to be some kind of problem. thanks for the information. niyad May 2017 #22

C_U_L8R

(45,018 posts)
1. WilmerHale is a huge firm
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:50 PM
May 2017

Mueller himself didn't represent the Trumps
and besides, he's leaving the firm to
so there's no question. I just don't see
a big problem here.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
6. I get that
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:52 PM
May 2017

doesn't change the optics of it and if by some chance he comes back with no wrongdoing from Trump people are going to point at it.

enough

(13,262 posts)
2. This could undercut the argument against Joe Lieberman as FBI Director,
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:51 PM
May 2017

that Lieberman has been working for a law firm that works for Trump.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
13. Nah, one guy is an honest, decent and credible person, the other is Joe Lieberman
Fri May 19, 2017, 01:00 PM
May 2017

This deal where the "good guys" are compared to the "bad guys" makes no sense, but it is done all the time, I know.

There are not two sides anymore, there is the group trying to destroy the country, and the group not.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
16. Agree that Mueller has an impeccable record
Fri May 19, 2017, 01:03 PM
May 2017

While Lieberman is a dirtbag.

I am actually quite happy with Mueller as the pick but this does create optics issues.

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
5. Doesn't sound like much of a problem
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:52 PM
May 2017

In addition to getting what should be an easy-to-obtain waiver from the one-year cooling-off period:

WilmerHale co-managing director Robert Novick said he could not comment on the government ethics rules, but he said Mueller didn't play any part in the firm's work for Manafort, Ivanka Trump or Kushner.

"He had absolutely nothing to do with any of those representations," Novick told POLITICO Wednesday night.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
8. Unless he comes back with no wrongdoing from the Trump team
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:54 PM
May 2017

then it is going to look pretty suspect even if it isn't.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
12. I actually have faith he will do a thorough investigation
Fri May 19, 2017, 01:00 PM
May 2017

That said if by some wild chance he exonerates the Cheeto. This is going to open up all kinds of conspiracy theories.

Meanwhile the argument against Lieberman is being made based on almost the same thing. Don't see how it can be an issue for one and not the other.

At the very least it undercuts the argument against Lieberman.

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
19. The strongest argument against Lieberman IMO is that he has no federal law enforcement experience
Fri May 19, 2017, 01:06 PM
May 2017

and will be seen as politicizing the Bureau. Of course, that won't matter to the R's, but it will to the 30K some-odd employees at the Bureau.

Anyway, move the discussion to the point most people care about, i.e., relative qualifications (Mueller v. Lieberman) and there's no discussion. This appointment is on very solid ground.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. WilmerHale isn't a small boutique firm, it has hundreds and hundreds of lawyers
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:53 PM
May 2017

It's one of the 2-3 most politically connected law firms with a big regulatory practice.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
15. It comes down to reputation.
Fri May 19, 2017, 01:02 PM
May 2017

Mueller has, by all standards, an impeachable reputation for fairness and justice.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
17. This I agree with
Fri May 19, 2017, 01:03 PM
May 2017

I am actually quite happy with him as the choice. That said this issue does worry me.

 

mhw

(678 posts)
20. And Lieberman has ties to Trump crime family also, thru his Law Firm.
Fri May 19, 2017, 01:24 PM
May 2017

No one with ties to anything "trump", in any outside way, should be on this investigattion

emulatorloo

(44,173 posts)
21. No, there's a problem with Politico. Mueller has a stellar rep.
Fri May 19, 2017, 01:55 PM
May 2017

I don't know why you think he's part of a cover-up.

Politico is funded by conservative Republicans. They aren't a horrible source, but one needs to read them with a bit of skepticism.

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