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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:45 AM May 2017

Charles M. Blow: Blood in the Water

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/opinion/mike-pence-donald-trump.html?_r=0

Blood in the Water
Charles M. Blow
MAY 22, 2017


Donald Trump has left the country for his first foreign trip as president and what he has left behind is a brewing crisis that appears to deepen by the day, and even the hour.

There is a sense that blood is in the water, that Trump’s erratic, self-destructive behavior, aversion to honesty and authoritarian desire for absolute control may in some way, at some point, lead to his undoing and that the pace of that undoing is quickening.

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The crisis isn’t limited only to Trump.

Did Vice President Mike Pence not know that Flynn was under investigation by the F.B.I. for lobbying on behalf of Turkey until “March, upon first hearing the news”? How can that be when, as The New York Times reported last week, Flynn “told President Trump’s transition team weeks before the inauguration that he was under federal investigation for secretly working as a paid lobbyist for Turkey during the campaign, according to two people familiar with the case.” Pence led the transition team.

How can Pence claim ignorance when Representative Elijah E. Cummings, ranking member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, sent Pence a letter on Nov. 18, explicitly spelling out:

“Lt. Gen. Flynn’s General Counsel and Principal, Robert Kelley, confirmed that they were hired by a foreign company to lobby for Turkish interests, stating: ‘They want to keep posted on what we all want to be informed of: the present situation, the transition between President Obama and President-Elect Trump.’ When asked whether the firm had been hired because of Lt. Gen. Flynn’s close ties to President-elect Trump, Mr. Kelley responded, ‘I hope so.’ ”

It isn’t possible Pence knew nothing. I believe Pence is a liar like his boss.

We knew that Pence was a liar when during the vice-presidential debate he repeatedly claimed that Trump had not in fact said things that he was recorded on television saying.

The only difference between the two is delivery. Trump is bombastic and abrasive with his lies. Pence cleverly delivers his with earnestness and solemnity. But a lie is a lie.

The whole White House crew must be fully investigated and held to account. It is time for justice to be served and honor restored. The dishonest must be dislodged.
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Charles M. Blow: Blood in the Water (Original Post) babylonsister May 2017 OP
I'm with Blow mcar May 2017 #1
The list of liars is quite long... LOL Lib May 2017 #6
He needs to be indicted. DK504 May 2017 #2
Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't going away. ― Elvis Presley Kleveland May 2017 #3
"The whole White House crew must be fully investigated and held to account." Botany May 2017 #4
K&R smirkymonkey May 2017 #5
It's not just tRump & WH. It's the leadership & senior Republicon Party. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #7
Brilliant: Amaryllis May 2017 #8

LOL Lib

(1,462 posts)
6. The list of liars is quite long...
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:40 AM
May 2017

ChaffedNutz
Nunes
Gingrich
Ghouliani
Spicey
McMaster
Sessions
Kellyanne Blowjob oops I meant Conjob

DK504

(3,847 posts)
2. He needs to be indicted.
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:11 AM
May 2017

"How can Pence claim ignorance when Representative Elijah E. Cummings, ranking member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, sent Pence a letter on Nov. 18, explicitly spelling out:"

Pence is building up for a 25th Amendment solution.

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
3. Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't going away. ― Elvis Presley
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:15 AM
May 2017

"Thank you, thank you very much"

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
8. Brilliant:
Mon May 22, 2017, 11:58 AM
May 2017

"The only difference between the two is delivery. Trump is bombastic and abrasive with his lies. Pence cleverly delivers his with earnestness and solemnity. But a lie is a lie. "

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